Guppies, lets bycott AntiOBL, OhioGuy and Mercenary2k on this forum unless you enjoy fruitless arguments. If no one replies to them then it will not take loong to shut them up. Anyone with me.
Re: Massacre at Qana
USResident: boycotting guppies won't do good, if people want to discuss let them. Whether someone agrees or not is not anyone's job, your job should be to provide your view. If you don't like to going into arguments you can always avoid it.
Re: Massacre at Qana
Yes, by all means lets make the arguements happily homogenous. No controversy. Anybody who disagrees with the majority should be excluded, hell, let's shoot 'em!
Dude, if you can' take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Re: Massacre at Qana
USResident, I may not agree with OG's views all the time, but he actually presents them in a logical, intelligent manner, unlike antiobl and merc. That's the problem with letting mental patients like them post on GS.
Re: Massacre at Qana
You know what, I usually let go of some young teens even if their posts are off the point or tangent, illogical or self-contradictory. But to see them coming from the so-called 20+ “grown-ups” is just inexcusable.
These guys just PUKE everything they have read anywhere, WITHOUT giving it a single thought.
sigh. It is because of the idiotic arguments from people like these that I usually don’t like to post. You spend a lot of time trying to give them a sense, and their reply is like: “Israel is good, Arabs are cowards”. What the heck? Now who has time to argue with THAT?
Although it is not the policy of paklinks, but such people cause the standard of this discussion group to go down. This is what I honestly believe. But then, “freedom of speech”.
Ok. Go on je**s. At least I am not interested in stooping to their level.
Re: Massacre at Qana
Captain sahib, what is the use of these forums when nothing constructive goes on here. It only adds fuel to the fire for certain people. This is not the way to build bridges or promote understanding among people. Especially some people around here just exist to create fitnah. If you are a muslim then please do not forget it is also your job to suppress fitnah no matter in what form it may arise. Tell me how is this forum servicing the muslim ummah or Pakistani awaam by creating so much fitnah and hatred. What I have said is very difficult oto unuderstand for many but it is true. Just isolate this forum for example and see how much good have you achieved from it versus all the nasty hate mongering that happens around here. Have you ever thought how much more you are giving to the world to abuse muslims by. Do you have any idea how many media parrots might raom around here and use these kind of sentiments to let loose their stories of hate against muslims. How much of the weaknesses of muslims get exposed here for the advantage of those who are our enemies. These are very hard points to swallow that I just made.
Freedom of expression also brings out your weaknesses for free.
Re: Should there be a boycott of guppies? (split from a thread in WA)
USResident: I moved the discussion here as doesn't belong to politics.
Re: Massacre at Qana
The problem is that in a war-like situation there will be flames on both sides. Most people in all forums resort to personal attacks when their view doesn't get "attention" or "approval" they thought it was worth or if other side doesn't agree. People start name calling each other, each other's countries/nations/religions, when that happens there can't be "understanding". We are moving towards forms of threads where moderators will approve/unapprove posts before other guppies get to see them.
Most people come to forums to "educate" other people rather than other way around or to respond to inflaming posts of other guppies with more flame. Such people will neither learn nor they will be able to contribute properly.
There are contributors of all kinds on the forum. If you isolate yourself from others than there is 0 chance of getting your point across.
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Especially some people around here just exist to create fitnah. If you are a muslim then please do not forget it is also your job to suppress fitnah no matter in what form it may arise.
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Ignoring fitnah will do no justice either, you have to respond.
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Tell me how is this forum servicing the muslim ummah or Pakistani awaam by creating so much fitnah and hatred. What I have said is very difficult oto unuderstand for many but it is true. Just isolate this forum for example and see how much good have you achieved from it versus all the nasty hate mongering that happens around here.
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It depends on your perception. There are incidents when people make false claims, you MUST reply and prove they are wrong (which I was able to do few times AH), there is information exchange through which I have learnt story of both sides which would be difficult by just reading/listening to news. Therefore I do value the forum.
If someone joined this forum thinking that they will transfer someone from opposite side of fence to their side (convince) then s/he is right to think that way but not practical.
You don't learn from posts/threads like a class-room environment but rather in a difficult way, its upto you to grasp the knowledge. Its a famous saying of Hazrat Ali RA: Listen to what one is saying without looking at "who" is saying.
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Have you ever thought how much more you are giving to the world to abuse muslims by. Do you have any idea how many media parrots might raom around here and use these kind of sentiments to let loose their stories of hate against muslims. How much of the weaknesses of muslims get exposed here for the advantage of those who are our enemies. These are very hard points to swallow that I just made.
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I agree that there are tons of kinds of people who join the forum with vastly differing intentions, now imagine all the hate mongering people roaming around all the forums (except Gupistan) and nobody from the other side making any contributions, what would "kids" learn when they log on? All they will learn is hate hate hate. No?
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Freedom of expression also brings out your weaknesses for free.
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Therefore it is our responsibility to use it sensibly.
Re: Should there be a boycott of guppies? (split from a thread in WA)
I would like to add that antiobl uses the UN in his threads as an infalliable proof but when I used to same source, the UN, he ridiculed me as, and I quote:
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You gotta see the Bidduans and other tribals. People like Abdul come by the dozen a dollar
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I think there should be an investigation in to this.
Re: Should there be a boycott of guppies? (split from a thread in WA)
Banning anyone will not achieve anything. They (mercenary2k, antiobl & ohioguy) represent what majority of people think in north america. Some north americans (non-muslims) harbor far worse views and spew vitriole than these gentlemen share with us.
Get used to it kids; world is a harsh place. You'd be shocked if you heard what whites/non-muslims think of us muslims and value of our lives.
Re: Should there be a boycott of guppies? (split from a thread in WA)
no wonder people dont like americans.
Re: Should there be a boycott of guppies? (split from a thread in WA)
There is an old joke:
There were a number of prisoners in a prison, all them had been imprisoned together so long, they all knew all of the jokes. Soon they all leaned out of the cell and used the numbers they had agreed on for the jokes.
"53!" yelled the guy in cell 383. Everyone laughs.
"91!" yelled the guy in cell 270. Everyone laughs.
"106!" yelled the guy in cell 310. Nobody laughs.
310 could never tell a joke says 401.
That is what Gupshup is without Goras. A mutual admiration society where everybody tells the same joke and everybody laughs for the 100th time.
Before 2001 World Affairs was a mutual masterbation society. A complete circle jerk. Somebody said "Jews are beasts.", everybody laughed and agreed.
The world is not this way.
If you want complete agreement, buy a mirror or a dog. If you want to confront the world, then value divergent opinions and use the internet to expand your horizons.
Re: Should there be a boycott of guppies? (split from a thread in WA)
Boycotting or ignoring does does not achieve anything. Everyone has their own opinion and are free to express themselves so long as they are within the GS rules. People who frequently break these rules are warned and can lose their posting rights. Mods are not online 24/7 and with the current situation the number of posts in WA are high. Use the bad post button or PM the mods if you find something offensive and the post will be reviewed and action taken by mods. Also feel free to PM me.