Pakistan should not send its troops.
By now we should know American army for its friendly-fire blunders. and imagine such a news spreading in Pakistan, which will arouse more anti-American feeling among Pakistanis.
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such a news spreading in Pakistan, which will arouse more anti-American feeling among Pakistanis.
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing? More importantly, do you think more people in Pakistan are already pro-America or anti-America? :-)
I voted No way. Even though the choice read "why make our soldiers pay...", I think the same holds for not wasting Indian lives either. I think all republicans should be sent to Iraq.
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing? More importantly, do you think more people in Pakistan are already pro-America or anti-America? :-)
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I think majority in Pakistan are not pro-America, and people who are pro-America are not happy with American war on Iraq.
Absolutely Yes.
Though I suppose there is danger that some soldiers with extremist beliefs might be included in Pak forces.
Someone mentioned only if large monetary benefit for Pak. I find this selfish as I think add'l troops, especially Muslim, would benefit the Iraqi people, though
I don't necessarily think they would be fighting the Iraqi people but helping to stabilize the country.
Even some Iraqi's have volunteered to police themselves.
I think Pak troops would be of enormous help in stabilizing an Iraqi police force and protecting key infrastructure from sabatoge which ultimately benefits average Iraqi people.
Someone else mentioned that they don't believe in Muslims killing Muslims. Is Muslim's killing non-Muslims ok in your opinion?
Last I heard there are Muslims killing Muslims almost daily. Recently wasn't a Muslim cleric killed along with bunches of other Muslims in a Mosque?
Be great if Pakistani troops helped out in that area IMHO.
I'm of the opinion that witholding assistance of Muslim and other countries troops harms the Iraqi people to a far greater extent than punishes the U.S.
I think one should think of the Iraqi's themselves rather than deriving a bit of pleasure from the though" haha U.S. messed up.. so we will wash our hands and leave to the U.S. to fix or not fix..."
Face it .. the longer the U.S. is alone out there probobility is that more sabatoge occurs, more die (not only Americans) and its the Iraqi people who suffer the terrible living conditions. I
t's fellow Iraqi's who suffer when an extremist group damages an electrical or water facility. It's their fellow Iraqi's who don't have clean water or electricity.
When a pipeline or refinary is sabatoged there is no exports and no money to benefit future Iraqi economy.
I think would be terribly wrong and dangerous if the U.S. were to completely exit from Iraq considering the divisions of the Iraqi's themselves.
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Examples of genuine kindness and concern of individual American soldiers towards Iraqi citizens have been documented in the international press.
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And what about the documented murder?
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And what about the documented murder?
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Murder is murder where ever it occurs. A sin against life.
I don't think we should send anything towards iraq, its a messy messy situation.... but:
If we are going to send some there should be strings attached>
Share in Iraqi Oil.
American hardware for our boys to use there and then we get to keep that hardware plus more for our army(if not airforce).
We want the Media and rest of the world know acknowledge that PAKISTAN is doing it and in positive way!
etc.
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Why should Pakistan send its troops to clear up someone else's stinking mess. What did Pakistan gain from abiding by US requests the last time around (aka the last military adventure of the US). What did we gain except Ariel Sharon visiting India and chumming it up with his murderous counterpart Vajpayee.
On a less emotional note, it will bolster support for particular ulama who will see this as yet more evidence that Musharraf is allied with the "Americans". It will just give them more fodder to use in their arguments. Unless it is the UN that is serving as the interim authority in Iraq, and unless it is under the direct umbrella of the United Nations, i don't think we should participate at all.
C.. No if’s and buts..
For those who chose:
A - oooh sooo naive.. to whom do you think the pak army and politicians report today?
B - Muslim countries----> Troops? 
D - Cuz beggars can’t be choosers… good enuff fer ye?
E - I’d rather most of the people who chose D had chosen E.
PA, if I understood you right, what you are trying to insinuate is that Pakistan army and our beloved politicians directly report to the U.S. policy makers, then are you also trying to insinuate that we are nuclear power today, because the Americans gave us a go ahead or a green light? care to explain…
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**D* - Cuz beggars can't be choosers... good enuff fer ye?
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True. But that does not signify we should always do what our masters tell us.
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Why should Pakistan send its troops to clear up someone else's stinking mess. What did Pakistan gain from abiding by US requests the last time around (aka the last military adventure of the US).
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How about because it will help Iraqi's out?
Pakistan recieved Billions of dollars and political power last time around.
Would it really, though, is the question..
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Yes. Musharraf discussed that recently in his interview on BBC a few days ago when a few slippery issues were put to him BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | President Pervez Musharraf answers your questions
go ahead .. green light?? dunno.. but turned a blind eye.. YES
How the US helped Pakistan get the bomb
on a more relevant note, the army should make themself useful.. they gobble up all the budget.. they should earn it back.. go peacekeeping wherever they can and in the process either get the debt written off or get some assurances that a chunk of ‘outsourced Americans jobs’ will come there way just like they are flowing to China and India.
PA makes a very good point. Considering the rest of the nation is deprived because the majority of the budget goes on protecting us from a non-existent threat from India, it makes sense that they should earn their keep and at the same time bring the nation some much needed capital instead of draining it.
Maulvis need to be disregarded if they object, I don't see what they are planning on doing other than hold some protest marches which is pretty much all they are capable of. A massive and positive publicity campaign on the heroic efforts of the Pak army in stabilising Iraq and saving US hides would drown that out anyway.
all i am gona say is pakistan needs to spend that money on its own ppl
So, based on the results so far, an over-whelming majority of GS members are totally opposed to any military involvement by Pakistan into Iraq... 2/3rd members, to be precise. Thats a lot.
Another 22% give conditional approval, and only 11% give an unconditional thumbs up to the idea. Based on the responses, it seems majority of these 11% are American members and not Pakistani members.
Yes, there could have been more choices there, or a combination of those, but it really boils down to the simple fact. Too many people are against the idea of putting Pakistani soldiers in the harm's way (whether they safeguard Americans in Iraq, or provide humanitarian or nation-building activities) as a result of this American adventure in Iraq.
Since America is so reluctant to give up any kind of control over the future military command, it seems pretty obvious, that any kind of international force may just end up being used as a slaughtering target, like US used the NA troops in Afghanistan. I really see no wisdom in making our troops pay with their lives and receiving back coffins in Islamabad so that American lives are saved.
right faisal!
not another “eat up all the budget” issue…
and by the way, the budget goes into buying seapons and maintaining equipment ant training ect for the defense of Pakistan and all its citizens. they don’t swell up their slalaries.
have any idea how much a an officer or a NCO for that matter earns? over the world defense personnel are among the highets paid but in pak they are among the lowest. i think the people who are ready to die for us and our country deserve much much better than that!