Should India be permanent member of OIC?

:dixsi: India wants to blame Pakistan, that’s it.

Stupid analogy by Mr. Singh

OIC ain’t base on religion. It’s based on Muslim Unity. It would be unjustify to say OIC hasn’t done for the Muslims. Mosques in Europe and North America are just examples of it.

King Fahd Mosque in LA, where I go for prayers, was build personally by King Fahd.

I really dont have the time for this but here goes again. When was the date of the Pak figure? I believe it was the early 1990’s census. Not the recent one. Plus US figures are far better.

His own link: http://www.pak.gov.pk/public/country_profile_index.htm

Click on the link…then click on the land and people link if you arent there already. After that scroll down to the population paragraphs. The line is the 2nd sentence in the first paragraph.

I have nothing more to say…Asif K give me a challenge. You are wasting my time.

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*Originally posted by Pakistani Tiger: *
OIC ain't base on religion. It's based on Muslim Unity.
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Yeah Right - Here are some examples :-

  1. Two members of OIC (Iraq & Iran) fought with each other for years
  2. One Member (Iraq) attacked another member (Kuwait)
  3. One member (Turqey) killed 1000s of Muslims (Kurds)

Great examples of Muslim unity !! There are more Please let me know If you wanna hear them.

About the mosque you are talking - Go and find out who donated the land for that mosque .

Sierra Leone: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/sl.html
Muslim 60%, indigenous beliefs 30%, Christian 10%

Gambia: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/ga.html
Muslim 90%, Christian 9%, indigenous beliefs 1%

Yawn come on guys give me some stuff that is a worthy of my time.

A Person who doesn’t even know when was the last census conducted in his country is challenging me ?? First You need to find out about the last census in your country. Once you find that out, You may still find that India is still no. 2/3 in Muslim Population (not 5 or 6 claimed by you) behind Indonesia and almost same as Pakistan and definately above Bangladesh (another claim by you).

Check Cameroon :-

indigenous beliefs 40%, Christian 40%, Muslim 20%

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cm.html

This is what you proud of, don’t you? Good to see India doesn’t wanna be a part of it.

Oye, who funded for Mosques? Bill Gates?

Land? When American can stay in Middle East, why can’t Muslim make Mosques in their land? :hehe:

I guess some people just have a real hard time counting the number of Muslims in a country.

CM chooses to post some CIA numbers regarding Sierra Leone and Gambia. (Hard to believe CM, of all people, is relying on CIA information). Dr. Kunle Lawal, a Muslim lecturer at Lagos State University seems to think that both countries are Christian majority countries. Further, the Secretary General of the National Supreme Council of Islamic Affairs thinks OIC member countries Togo and Benin have Muslim populations comprising only about 10 percent of the population. http://www.mcjonline.com/news/00/20000114b.htm

Maybe all the Christians were hiding when the CIA did its count. Maybe the Muslims were hiding when Dr. Lawal and the NSCIA did their counts. Maybe one of these groups have mastered the fine art of human cloaking or have developed stealth technology for bio-organisms. We need more research on this issue.

And kinda strange that a person like myvoice refuses a CIA report.
Did you switch sides? Coz if I’mn not wrong thats the first time ever you have rejected CIA (US) and believed in a report by a Muslim.

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*Originally posted by Ali_R: *

And kinda strange that a person like myvoice refuses a CIA report.
Did you switch sides? Coz if I'mn not wrong thats the first time ever you have rejected CIA (US) and believed in a report by a Muslim.
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Hey. I've got no skin in this fight. I just thought the argument that India should not be in the OIC because it was not a Muslim majority country sounded pretty lame. So I did some research trying to learn about the charter and see what countries were Members. There are some interesting arguments among Members even to the extent of many Nigerians wanting out because they don't necessarily want to be considered an Islamic state.

It appears as if being Muslim majority is NOT a defining characteristic of OIC Members. Whether India wants in or should even be allowed in is not a subject I'm particularly interested in. When I see lame arguments presented in Gupshup, I like to point them out.

Whether the CIA is right in its count or whether the Islamic sources are right about the count....I don't know. I'd like to think that our CIA can count although the number of Muslims in these countries probably exceeds the combined numbers of fingers and toes of all our CIA agents, so I'm not real sure.

I suspect the real reason some Muslims would not want India in the OIC is their hatred and antipathy of Hindus. Whether being an OIC Member might actually help 140 million Muslims living there probably takes a back seat to that hatred.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Hey. I've got no skin in this fight. I just thought the argument that India should not be in the OIC because it was not a Muslim majority country sounded pretty lame.

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Is India a Secular or a Muslim Nation?

Answer that!

No one is denying India doesn't have majority of Muslims.

Gambia - More stats, to give the people a chance to pick a site that might suit them more :slight_smile:

  1. 90% Muslim according to this site
  1. Then the official Govt site which says - The population is predominantly Muslim with more than 90% following Islam
  1. Lonely Planet site also says 90% Muslim

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/africa/gambia/

What has the OIC achieved does anybody know

Apart from spending millions on organising big dinners for corrupted rulers in nice hotels what exactly has the OIC done? :disgust:

You could say the OIC is a scaled down version of the UN for muslims both useless!

and both abused by america and the other 4 permanent members

And as 2bornot2b showed to everybody, different sites say different things. So guess why I use the CIA website? Because it is expected that the Indians and Americans wouldnt say it was factually incorrect. Yet it seems in their rampant blind hatred of Islam and whatever is linked to it, they try to dis-credit the CIA website. As myvoice doesnt like it. I suggest all muslim not accept any US govt news. After all if the CIA can be wrong so can be Bush, or Ashcroft or Rumsfeld.

Asif_K you are laughable. First you cant find the CIA links and now they are the word of a god. But as Myvoice an american doesnt think the CIA is credible, i will stick to my own links. Now 2bornot2b where can i find some info on Sierra Leone?

Continuing on the theme of Gambia and Sierra Leone, here are stats to give the people a chance to pick a site that might suit them more that relates to Sierra Leone :slight_smile:

  1. This neutral link says:

Muslims making up an estimated sixty per cent of Sierra Leone’s 4.5 million people and Christians another fifteen to twenty per cent…

http://www.c-r.org/accord/index.htm...cord9/index.htm

  1. This Christian site says -

Sierra Leone is about 60% Muslim and 40% Christian, of various denominations

http://www.stpetersnottingham.org/misc/sierraleone.html

  1. Another Christian site says -

Sierra Leone is a nation of many faiths. About 60% of its people are Muslim, 10% are Christian, and at least 30% practice indigenous forms of worship.

http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/emergency/ircsl.stm

My word, that is indeed interesting. As the CIA website is not good enough for Asif and Myvoice i hope these are. Now my dear friend what else can we find our are desperate posters here? I wonder if they will be back and by the way excellent links.

CM - from your CIA Fact Book - (Dont believe your own link now ?? - Usual habit of yours)

Benin :- indigenous beliefs 50%, Christian 30%, Muslim 20%
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bn.html

Guyana - Christian 50%, Hindu 35%, Muslim 10%, other 5%
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gy.html

Oh and before I forget - You are right about India has no merit for this esteemed club named OIC. India certainly doesn’t need to join this elite group of Somalia,Sudan etc.

LOL :hehe:

Finally, you started to accept Indian news :hehe:

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Hey. I've got no skin in this fight. I just thought the argument that India should not be in the OIC because it was not a Muslim majority country sounded pretty lame. So I did some research trying to learn about the charter and see what countries were Members. There are some interesting arguments among Members even to the extent of many Nigerians wanting out because they don't necessarily want to be considered an Islamic state.

It appears as if being Muslim majority is NOT a defining characteristic of OIC Members. Whether India wants in or should even be allowed in is not a subject I'm particularly interested in. When I see lame arguments presented in Gupshup, I like to point them out.

Whether the CIA is right in its count or whether the Islamic sources are right about the count....I don't know. I'd like to think that our CIA can count although the number of Muslims in these countries probably exceeds the combined numbers of fingers and toes of all our CIA agents, so I'm not real sure.

I suspect the real reason some Muslims would not want India in the OIC is their hatred and antipathy of Hindus. Whether being an OIC Member might actually help 140 million Muslims living there probably takes a back seat to that hatred.
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I'm not discussing on the topic nor I'm arguing about anything regarding OIC, I was just pointing out that discussion are made here in the favour of one's view. If I would have brought up the number by Muslims claiming the numbers CIA issued you would have rejected it.
See what I'm trying to tell you??!