Shots fired at Pak Check post by US-Afghan Forces

I guess soon we’ll be hearing more news like this..

http://uk.quote.com/news/story.action?id=RTT105170357000257
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f18/shots-fired-in-us-pakistan-clash-16462/

Shots fired in US-Pakistan clash

The United States military says US and Afghan forces have exchanged gunfire with Pakistani troops across the border with Afghanistan.

A senior US military official says a five-minute skirmish broke out after Pakistani soldiers fired warning shots near two US helicopters.

No-one was hurt in the incidents and the US maintains its troops did not cross the border from Afghanistan.

Cross-border action by US-led forces has angered Pakistan in recent weeks.

The latest incident took place along the border of the eastern Afghan region of Khost, which is a hotbed of militant groups.

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another strong protest from pakistan, no one takes them seriously now

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/17/two-security-officials-injured-in-nato-strike-in-north-waziristan.html

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these are the ways to be taken seriously:

1) Block all kind of Supplies and resume it on high price in addition to the parking/storing fee
2) The moment anything tries to cross the border, shoot it down
3) Stop issuing hollow statements... above actions would send right message to right parties...

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the problem is that the pakistani side plays double games with their own citizens, and the americans know that well, for public consumption they have other statements whereas in private discussions things are different...another statement like the many issued during the past 6 months or so, first it was the government now even the military is exposing itself

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if somebody fires from the ground in Pakistan, the Americans probably think it is another terrorist camp that is doing it. Why would Pak sodiers fire at the US / NATO choppers?

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Its not no mans land, better question is why haven't they been doing it earlier ?

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Perhaps to warn them to not fire at them, as I don't think that pakistani troops carry ID tags that identify them as "friendly" to the pilots The US can say that it was to help the insurgents cross into Afghanistan, but I doubt regular army troops would do that that share no kinship with them.

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This is just a lolly pop given by our mighty army. A US General already said, they are not dependent on Pakistan for supplies he gave example of Earth Quake & last year floods - when everything was stuck but nothing happen to their operational capability.

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2) The moment anything tries to cross the border, shoot it down
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If you can't see it, how you going to down it. You need to understand the real motive of US-led military in the region. They are provoking Pakistan to come into battle. Our Nuclear Weapons & Missiles can't reach Europe or America - well even lets say we fire some missiles in a far reaching scenario, do you know how much anti-missile assets US deploy around our region, start from Afghanistan, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Turkey, Israel, Egypt, Red Sea, Arabian Sea, Greece, Italy, France, Germany, Uk, Iceland, Greenland, Canada..... and then come America. What a flight it will be for our missiles modeled on Chinese & North Korean designs.

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3) Stop issuing hollow statements... above actions would send right message to right parties...
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Beggars can't be choosers.

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Time for pak army to stand up show the yanks we ain't messing about shoot down the helicopters they won't be in hurry to try it again

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Firenze, do you sleep on the porch outside your masters room?

U.S. was absolutely pee-ing in its pants when Pakistan closed down the Nato/U.S routes. U.S. is broke right now. I know, i live here. They are in heavy heavy debt to the Chinese and their citizens are tired of spending money on wars. If Pakistan closes its routes the cost of the war in U.S. will multiply.

Hannibal and JavedMiandad, I wish Pakistan would stand up for itself. But sadly as you have seen in the past 3 days this Parliament and this gov't throw in the army as well all have the "brown saahab" mentality. Like some of the people on this board. Especially this character called Firenze.

The army, police They will talk tough, beat up their own people. But when a white man comes to town they know to assume the position on their knees.

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first :rotfl:
secondly, if Amerikan economy is in such dire condition what you are doing here? :hmmm:

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U need to see the map before even saying something what you have said...

yeah something a naked eye can see but radar cannot!!!

true, and that is what we want to change...

So no more supplies, they if they can carry on their mission without being effected, then they should not be bothered...

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Their you go, completely idiotic reply. You didn't mention telling what kind of shoe polish you use for you master.

If i live in U.S. doesn't mean i have to polish the shoes of your masters. In 10years U.S. economy, 2 wars is eating the U.S. economy. Thats a fact.

Ask your master why they don't go through Tajikistan and Uzbekistan when Pakistan is such a pain in the azz.

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I like you.

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@Zoab - I think US senators want to take the aid money they now give to Pakistan and use it for other purposes, one of which could be the additional cost you're talking about. The debt to China doesn't bother US at all - in fact they welcome China to hold as much of US debt as they can take. No problem. It's like Japanese buying real estate in America - what are they going to do? take the skyscrapers to Tokyo? Similarly what are chinese gonna do? corner the market on USD and US run out of currency paper?

Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, UTC and a thousand others love wars.

If you live in America you should know that what is killing American economy is not wars but fleet of manufacturing, social security & medicare entitlements.

And that, the macro-economist in you should know, is in a large large part due to too many people living for much longer periods drawing retirement benefits than before and that in-turn is due to advancements in healthcare, living conditions and security.

PS: you are allowed to use the above information for any class project free of charge

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u r right! these people when get their money, they literally eat it!!! 10 dollar is often used for special candle light dinner where dollar bill is used in place of candle... or may be these people just sit on the money and do not spend it all.... i have met few more like you who believes that wars are there for the betterment of humans as it kills many of them and the remaining gets the right on the space of the dead one...

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huh? I said the defence industry loves wars....didn't say I like wars or killing! come on, that was hurtful.

Macro-economic factors stand. emotions cannot change that. The social security system was designed with a certain incoming & outgoing pipeline rate. The outgoing rate has become much smaller, due to average post-retirement lifespan.

To solve the problem, we have to first recognize the true root cause! not run out screaming these economists want to kill gramps!

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Don't take me wrong, i am not blaming you, there were few THINKERS kind of people whom i met in Malaysia while attending a conference and they were talking about this kind of stuff, one of which was, if Indian Sub-Continent keep developing at the pace it is developing now ( it was year 2003 or 4 ) then these economies would become the biggest consumer of the food products they produce.... hence would negatively effect the food price globally which will have a dominoe effect... but lets leave this discussion for some other time...

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LP, surely you can see how wars can be a drag on the economy? Look at where the trillions we spent on iraq and afghanistan could have been put to better use in education and improving infrastructure across america.

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^ oh yeah, even W (or was it palin?) said something like that (food prices are going up because now Indians are eating more!).