Shoaib Malik as Pakistan's permenant opener

Hacked into Woolmer’s mind and ‘grepped’ the keyword: Malik :o

If he can’t bowl, he can’t be in the team as allrounder.
He can’t bat at his best suited place, #3, since we need younis as VC that can’t fit anywhere but at the same position.
He can’t keep wickets since Kamran has scored centuries in both forms of game, and improving as keeper too.

So where do we throw, our best FIND since the rebuilding started. The only guy who has technique, confidence, superb fielding and hunger to deliver his 110% performance with style.

I say since he can’t be an allrounder (not any soon), a middle order batsman, since we have khocha and Asim cementing their postion atleast for test, a keeper for aforementioned reasons, why can’t we try him as permenant opener along with the lefty Salman Butt.

If they both get settled at the opening slots, Pakistan will be assured to have a blistering start in ODIs and sensible 50+ partnership in test, which would be enough to take the shine off from the ball so ther Nawab’s that come in the middle don’t have to face the erratic swing of new ball. Malik has scored two centuries in ODIs as opener alone. In tests he has yet to prove himself but his record in test is effected mainly because he didn’t have a permenant spot. He has promoted/demoted on #3 and #6 positions in various situation and we know its not a good thing for a youngster at the beginning of his career. Nevertheless, he gives his best in any situation and is not a typical easily giving-up type of cricketer.

If we don’t go for minor differences in the stats for ImranX2, Taufeeq, Yasir and Salman and him, Malik is much more stronger in technique, thus will last for long and produce goods when given regular chances. I believe he can settle down as opener more than anyone else, since he has this instinct to prove himself in any task he has been assigned to.

Yasir and Younis shall compete for #3 postion if Malik becomes our opener. Yasir is more comfortable at #3.


So who would agree with me on making Malik the right-hand pair with Salman at the top order?

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He is good at the position of water boy for now. You can not make him an opener instead of Yaasir Hameed. Yaasir and Substitute any of the useless bunch for the 2nd person. Malik is good as 1st down in ODI's but never should he be tried at that possition in Tests. I think Inzi should come 1st down, then Yoyo and then Younis.

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haha. Yeah, Shoaib Malik is Woolmer's pet project. They might even have a child together.

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i dont understand y malik cant play as a batsman at 1 down :( :( :( :( :(

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^
cuz that is where ur vice captain plays....

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I like Shoaib, but don't see him as an opener, not far apart I like to see him coming one down and Mr. VC younis be sent out to A.K.G acadamy for further development.

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Anyway, back to topic: Shoaib Malik's average is close to his competitor for one down position i.e. Younis Khan. Being one down in Pakistani batting line, you are almost opening many a times. I bet Woolmer is planning in opening with Shoaib Malik in one of next few matches!

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haha....what about actor bashing and sacking from Razzaq from test team when we have fit fasties. They don't see it. :) I am not Poonjabi :p if anyone thinks advocating Sialkotiya has anything to do with punjab. Its the game of cricket, only the players with merit deserve to be in the team.

As I said Malik's test average is not a criterian on which we can judge him. (He has not got enough chances as other lot at the top. Moreover he is relatively newer than them. Also that he batted more on lower middle order in tests and didn't get much chance to prove him as test batsman or has been treated as allrounder for that matter). We need to look at the real ingredients that are required for test cricket. Right technique, patience, selected shots, good fielding and above all professional attitude. I am not saying he is in Inzimam/Lara/Tendulkar/Dravid's league, infact he has limited shots. But the biggest thing is he is keen to learn and has a will-do attitude no matter what his captain asks him to do. He is one versatile player in the team.

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Woolmer is deeply in love with Malik. I say we play Younis in ODI's too as 1st down, until Malik learns how to bowl and not chuck.

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As I said Malik's test average is not a criterian on which we can judge him. (He has not got enough chances as other lot at the top. Moreover he is relatively newer than them. Also that he batted more on lower middle order in tests and didn't get much chance to prove him as test batsman or has been treated as allrounder for that matter). We need to look at the real ingredients that are required for test cricket. Right technique, patience, selected shots, good fielding and above all professional attitude. I am not saying he is in Inzimam/Lara/Tendulkar/Dravid's league, infact he has limited shots. But the biggest thing is he is keen to learn and has a will-do attitude no matter what his captain asks him to do. He is one versatile player in the team.
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I am all for letting Shoaib Malik open for 5-6 Test matches in a row to evaluate him, after all we let Imran Farhat open for so long whose average is only 30 (close to lower range for an all-rounder in Test matches).

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Smooth Guy
If you dont like a player, there is no reason to use racial language. Keep it to cricket only. That is completely innapropriate.....

Beyond that, I'd love seeing Shaoib Malik as an openor. He is a great player and plays on big occasions. He is too good a batsman to be left outta the side.

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I agree with you 100% on this issue, non performers are continously selected, whereas players like Malik, (who I have predicted as the next Captain) are dropped after one bad performance.

Like you said and I have said this many times, any player, be it Malik, or Younis, or for that matter even Shoaib, give them a FAIR CHANCE, otherwise after every game if you play musical chairs, its not only going lower the morale of the players not in form, but even the players. with consistent performance,who will always be playing with the Socrates (sp) sword over their heads.

That is one reason i Do appreciate Ganguly, he atleast givesn a player time to prove themselves, but he even stands up for them. and thats what counts.

Edit:eason Socrates may not be right, it may be Damocles, correct me please if I am wrong, and I would also like to thank the KK member who pointed it out to me:)

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Thats one of the reasons Ganguly is successful that he stands behind his players (selection) :k:

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Woolmer is such retard that a few months ago he rejected everybody and their neighbors request, suggestion, query wrt Asim Kamal after he had failed in one test against the Lankans and went on saying that Asim Kamal does not deserve to be in the team and would have to compete with YoYo and Shoaib Malik, in other words no competition, since YoYo was the Vice Capt. at that time and established player, while Malik was a budding all rounder......

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Shoaib Malik has serious deficiencies as a batsman. His footwork is non-existent, and he has major troubles playing the moving ball. He cannot be Pakistan's regular opener for all games, but perhaps only for those games in slow subcontinental pitches. And he's better suited to ODIs than tests.

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This BOLDed problem is true for all of our current opening lot!

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True, but even more so for Shoaib Malik who’s rated so highly and loved by many on this forum.

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^^ I second that. When all the foot-work-less and outside offstump-delivery flirts can have several chances why not Malik be tried for change.

BTW, this is just a suggestion (also some pun was intended on Woolmer’s wish to fit Malik in the team somehow :hehe: ) if we are stuck with the current lot than Malik is not a big gamble in my view. He is also a captaincy material, so we can hope that he will keep improving his game and be an integral part of the team, one way or another. A captaincy crises is right on the door (within two years IMO). We need a clever and active captain who can coup with aggression mounted by his counter part. As we see the difference between Gangz, Ponting, Flemming and Inzimam. In future cricket will demand more from a captain.

In an ideal world, we should have geniune, athentic and technically strong batsmen for the opener’s job. Don’t know if the predicted change in selection methods and selection comettee will surface the real cricketers from the domestic arena. I hope it happens soon as salim Altaf indicated. I believe in our talent, its just the matter of bringing them up and support them rightly. Remember Imran Khan’s strategy, once he spotted the potential, he would play that player for a long time, until the player gains the true confidence. There are many examples like that.

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That’s exactly why we should stick with Younis Khan. Imran bhai ki pick jo hai.

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^ :hehe: how do we spell ‘infinity’ tak ? :smokin: