Shoaib ditches Pakistan over pay dispute?

If Shoaib skipped the tournament for the Lashings club, I as PCB chief would insure that the recent Aussie series was the last Shoaib ever played in Pakistan colours. There is a limit to being unprofessional and Shoaib is definitely stretching it.

Pakistan can manage well without him with Wasim, Waqar, Sami and Zahid. I hope they recall Zahid now and let him have a fling at big cricket again. If it were upto me, this would be bye bye time for Shoaib.

http://www.dawn.com/2002/07/14/spt2.htm

Shoaib ditches Pakistan over pay dispute?

LAHORE, July 13: Fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar was ruled out of next month’s triangular one-day tournament in Tangiers amidst contrasting reports.

Team manager Yawar Saeed, known for misleading the mediamen Saturday said the paceman was struggling with injury in the lower half of the body. Nevertheless, Shoaib’s brother, Shahid Akhtar, contradicted Yawar’s statement claiming his younger brother had taken a break from international cricket.

“Shoaib left for England after seeking permission from chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). He is absolutely fit and reports that he is unfit are baseless,” Shahid said from Rawalpindi.

He added: “He has taken a month lay-off from international cricket because there is a gruelling cricket ahead. He wants to concentrate in those events, including the World Cup.” However, late evening developments revealed that Shoaib had decided to skip the Moroccan tournament on pay dispute.

Officials, requesting not to be identified, said Shoaib told the PCB chairman that some of the players, including Saqlain Mushtaq and Abdul Razzaq, were being allowed to play county cricket and at the same time were being picked for Pakistan.

"Shoaib has told the PCB that the two boys were making money from both the sides and he also deserved the same opportunity.

“The chairman (Lt Gen Tauqir Zia), not pleased with his argument, has allowed him to go to England, earn money by playing club cricket for Lashings and skip the tournament” insiders said.

Ironically, Shoaib recently received Rs900,000 cash award from Pakistan authorities besides his share from the win bonus from the Super Challenge-II Series.

While the PCB awarded Rs400,000 each to all the 13 players, President Gen Pervez Musharraf announced an additional Rs500,000 award for every player during a reception in Islamabad Thursday.

It is estimated that each player who went to Australia last month earned around Rs1.5million, including match fee, tour fee and other benefits.

Shoaib had also quit the Pakistan team last year when he preferred to play for Lashings after failing to acclaim top fitness. Yawar Saeed then had blasted Shoaib and had questioned his commitment.

It was immediately not known if the PCB would refer Shoaib’s case to the disciplinary committee. The Rawalpindi Express has a history of indiscipline acts and has been penalized on several occasions.

While Shoaib’s brother pleaded the fitness of the pacer and PCB officials confirmed there was a dispute over money, Yawar Saeed insisted that the pacer contacted him Saturday morning and expressed his inability to join the camp.

“Shoaib was saying that he had something wrong with his legs and needed one month rest. He will not be considered when the selection committee meets to pick the side the three-nation tournament,” Yawar said, adding: “He will, however, be available for the tri-series against Australia and New Zealand late August if held.”

Yawar said Shoaib, who played a key role in Pakistan’s 2-1 win over Australia last month, was continuously delivering his best for the last eight months.

“Shoaib’s bowling action puts extra burden on his legs and therefore the bowler’s lower part of the body always creates problems for him,” he said.

Shoaib had missed the first match indoors because of a hip strain, Yawar recalled.

While admitting that Shoaib’s absence will be a setback for Pakistan, he said the team management would not ask for Shoaib’s replacement as there were already 18 probables in the camp. But Shoaib’s absence means Wasim Akram is the only strike bowler left who will also be leaving Tuesday evening to participate in the double wicket tournament in Florida.

Skipper Waqar Younis is already in England for the ICC captain’s conference.

The Tangiers tournament will run between Aug 12 and 21 with other participating teams being South Africa and Sri Lanka.

hmmm
I am one of those people who believe key players should be allowed to play county cricket. Reason, they have a right to make extra money. Previously Pakistan cricket team use to have Off season from May till September, so players could go and play county cricket during that. But from past few years Pakistan has been playing cricket all year, they really don't have an off season, henxce this problem has arrised.

As for Shoaib his situation is different, I don't think he had a contract bfore hand that he had to fulfil as in case of Razzaq or Saqlain. Add to that the fact that PCB chief spend money on him like crazy to get him fit for Pak cricket, now to be honest he doesn't have a right to go and get unfit again. So yea if I was PCB chief I would say good bye to Shoaib as well.

you know it could be a conflict with waqar or manager. shoibi is also famous for not listening to the officials during the tour.

I think this bunch of balaoni by the news media as always, they will makeup anything to make even a simple dispute a big deal.

Its true that Shoaib is currently in England playing for a minor cricket league but he hasn't said anything about leaving the team or anything, he has a little injury though but he will particpate in the tri series in Tangiers.


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I am one of those people who believe key players should be allowed to play county cricket. Reason, they have a right to make extra money. Previously Pakistan cricket team use to have Off season from May till September, so players could go and play county cricket during that. But from past few years Pakistan has been playing cricket all year, they really don't have an off season, henxce this problem has arrised.

As for Shoaib his situation is different, I don't think he had a contract bfore hand that he had to fulfil as in case of Razzaq or Saqlain. Add to that the fact that PCB chief spend money on him like crazy to get him fit for Pak cricket, now to be honest he doesn't have a right to go and get unfit again. So yea if I was PCB chief I would say good bye to Shoaib as well. **
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I happen to be one of those people who believe that cricketers should be allowed to make extra money but not at the expense of Pakistan cricket. Why? Because bluntly speaking we are who make them who they are.

If Pak were to throw out Shoaib today, any county would be happy to hire him. But what happens if he breaks down? Are they going to foot his bills like the PCB did?

More importantly, Shoaib has broken down after a couple of series but our schedule most definitely has not been back breaking. If Shoaib throws tantrums over being burnt out and all that, would any county want to persist with him knowing full well his work ethic?

Shoaib needs to realize that he might have the gift of pace but the only chance he made it is because of Pakistan cricket. He would never be such a big star off the international stage. The PCB literally fought wars for his chance to play and he cannot simply turn his back on the country to play a celebrity series.

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**he has a little injury though but he will particpate in the tri series in Tangiers.

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Any confirmed news on this?

From what I have read he is dropping out due to fitness problems. Yawar Saeed said that Akhtar informed them that he is feeling weakness in his legs and is also suffering from fatigue. Yawar also denied that it was a protest by Shoaib against absence of certain players skipping the tour and earning more money. He also said that Shoaib never asked any permission for county or league cricket.

Whatever the deal is but I have to agree with what Shoaib is doing, I would feel dissappointed as well when some team mate is earning more money than you are but you are the one doing wonders for your country, while they are playing against 3rd class international 40 year old rejects.

whatever the problem is, I think our bowling attack is too good to loose even if shoaib is not playing, just imagine if zahid comes back or m sami gets another chance, there is just no end to the number of fast bowlers in Pakistan.


Its not clear yet if the report is true or Shoaib is really out because of injury. If he is injured he better be resting because PCB has spend lots and lots of money on his fitness.

One thing i m sure about that if this proved to be a correct report Shoaib will lose a fan atleast. I think he is not realizing that he needs Pakistan its not the other way round.

It just takes 8/10 matches to groom a youngster in presence of Wasim and Waqar. Correct he will not be this exciting to watch but he can be as deadly as Shoaib.

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Thats the last thing Shoaib wants to do.
He is playing the best cricket of his life and he is arguebly the best bowler in the world today, and the last thing he would do is leave cricket.
But if he wants to rest than it is understandable but playing for a 3rd class county cricket is not rest.
If you are a well developed fast bowler in Pakistan and has cemented your position in the team, you wouldn't want to leave the team and give someone like Zahid or Sami a spot in the team, that is suicidal.


Very Well said, your the man

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Originally posted by Nakhrey Wali:
Its not clear yet if the report is true or Shoaib is really out because of injury. If he is injured he better be resting because PCB has spend lots and lots of money on his fitness.

One thing i m sure about that if this proved to be a correct report Shoaib will lose a fan atleast. I think he is not realizing that he needs Pakistan its not the other way round.

It just takes 8/10 matches to groom a youngster in presence of Wasim and Waqar. Correct he will not be this exciting to watch but he can be as deadly as Shoaib.

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he did one already...

Read somewhere today that Waqar younis has criticized Shoaib for withdrawing from the tangiers tourny.


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So, things get even more interesting. The fragile working relationship that our team has is under even more stress now.

Waise, Waqar bhai aren’t you the same guy who no one could stand in the way of and then you started Pak tournaments for county cricket, got burnt out and then were reduced to playing as 12th man for an eternity?

Either way as I said earlier, in my team Shoaib would not be playing. Shape up or ship out Shobby!
http://www.dawn.com/2002/07/29/spt1.htm

Shoaib is not indispensable, says Waqar

By Our Sports Reporter

KARACHI, July 28: Pakistan captain Waqar Younis Sunday took a swipe at Shoaib Akhtar and refused to accept that his team would be underdogs in next month’s tournament in the absence of the temperamental fast bowler.

“It (Pakistan team) is not a one-man show. We play on total team effort and if Shoaib or anyone has illusions that he (Shoaib) is indispensable, then he is mistaken,” Waqar said from Lahore.

Shoaib Akhtar decided to skip next month’s tri-nation series in Tangiers saying he needed a break from international cricket and flew to England. It is anticipated that he is playing matches for cash-rich Lashings club.

“Pakistan has a lot of young and promising players who have the ability to rise to the occasion. Naturally, it is disappointing to lose a match-winner like Shoaib. But then we have to move forward and forget about him, at least for the time being” Waqar said.

Waqar said he had little knowledge of what transpired between the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and Shoaib that led the pacer to proceed to England immediately after a Presidential reception earlier this month.

"I don’t know nor I want to know. But had I been in Pakistan, I would not have let it happen. I don’t know under what pressure or circumstances he was allowed to skip the tour. "I don’t buy the theory that he needs break from international cricket. Pakistan has played very little cricket in the last eight months, so the excuse of being tired is lame. “And if Shoaib is to be believed that he was feeling weak in his legs, then he should have stayed back in Lahore and trained with the boys. I think the facilities here are marvellous.”

Waqar, while admitting that he was unhappy and disappointed at the saga revolving Shoaib, said he played top grade cricket for Pakistan as well as in County Championship at the same time but never demanded break from international cricket.

“I believe the fast bowlers should play regular cricket because that helps them maintain the extra fitness besides the rhythm and speed. Now Shoaib will come after three weeks and will require another three to four weeks to get to his best. By that time the Kenyan tournament would have been over,” he opined.

When asked why he didn’t convince Shoaib to change his mind, Waqar replied: "It’s not my duty. If Shoaib feels he needs rest, then its fine with me. But I must admit that I am not happy with the decision of the PCB.

“If Shoaib, as some say is playing cricket for Lashings, becomes unfit, then who would be responsible. After all, the PCB has spent lots of money on his fitness,” he said.

Waqar advised Shoaib to get his act together and start taking his cricket seriously. However, Waqar said it was time that the PCB learns from Shoaib’s controversy and introduce central contracts system.

He said when he met his rivals captain at Lord’s a fortnight ago, he felt uneasy when the issue of players’ central contracts came up. "All the Test playing countries have introduced central contracts systems which have helped them keep their players under control. If we also had contracts, Shoaib or four players who went to United States for double wicket would not have left the camp. They would have been bound to be available for Pakistan.

“I strongly feel that this should be introduced with immediate effect,” Waqar said while denying that permission to Shoaib and four players to skip the camp had created resentment amongst the camp trainees.

“My players still take a lot of pride in representing Pakistan. Besides, it is a well-knit team and everyone looks after each other,” he said.

AOA

I have personally lost all respect for Shoiab Akhtar which I had very little before but I still repect him as a great cricketer.

Like someone mentioned before it takes a long time to get a good reputation but it takes only a minute to ruin it.

The guy was playing the best cricket of his life and was dominating the opposition batsman but he could loose his form very easily by not playing competitive cricket.