Shoaib Akhtar - Rawalpindi Xpress

I know I'm getting a little off topic but give me one example where in Pakistan fans have reacted like the Indians after loosing a match.
You will be surprised, there aren't any.

I know Pakistanis do get emotional when their is a cricket match going on but they take the loss with maturity unlike our neighbors.

There have been crowd riots but mostly when Pakistan is playing some good cricket.

Big example is Pakistan vs Newzeland 1st ODI in Karachi where Youhana scored the centruy and Shoaib took 6 wickets, the crowd was too delighted.

BTW, Asif you still haven't answered my question yet.


Yaar can you guys give it a rest?

Umair, Asif and AQ are turning this forum into bullshit.

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goodone

Natwest series Final - Michael Bevan was hit by a Beer Can - Check this series page and find it out how many times there was a pitch invasion and how many times opposition players were hit and hospitalized. http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2001/OD_TOURNEYS/NWS/ARTICLES/
Also Check PROTESTING PAKISTANIS

Like this - http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/1999/JUN/002042_AFP_20JUN1999.html - Aapki maturity aapko mubarak. We can still vaccat the stadiums and continue to play the game.

I have given my answer many times, If you dont like it then it is your problem.


AK

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I know I'm getting a little off topic but give me one example where in Pakistan fans have reacted like the Indians after loosing a match.
You will be surprised, there aren't any
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One more win for the good guys.

Last time I checked Lords was in Pakistan.
Good one there.

I win again.

Topic ended.


Yeah, Yeah - You win. I thought the above should be enough to keep you quiet. But you want it real hard man. Now I want to see your Victory LAP.

You also have a very short memory - Read this report of Stone throwing in KARACHI during second ODI (Which PAKISTAN LOST) - BTW I still remember how Srikanth was attacked by a spectator in the 1989 tour - I am looking for some proof regd it - will send it to you as soon as I find it.
http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1997-98/IND_IN_PAK/ ARTICLES/CROWD_COMMENTARY_01OCT1997.html

KARACHI, Sept 30: Sachin Tendulkar’s decision to lead his team off the field during the second one-day international has left a very bad taste in the mouth of excited cricket followers.

Minor incidents like this do happen but they should be avoided rather than taken to the extreme by trooping out the players from the field. After all, this was not a simple match. The revival of cricket relationship between Pakistan, India largely depends on this series and Tendulkar would have been wise had he a shown little more flexibility.

One doesn’t want to defend the stone-throwing incidents, but the bottom-line is that the skipper has to be diplomatic, the only quality lacking in Sachin Tendulkar.

Stones were thrown on the Pakistan team when they played the World Cup quarter-final in Bangalore last year and the crowd behaviour was not satisfactory when Pakistan took part in the Independence Cup specially at Madras when alcoholic bottles were sent flying at them. But never the Pakistan team was brought out of the ground though they had the similar problem which pointed out by Tendulkar on Tuesday - the safety of his players.

It might be because the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had briefed the players in detail about how they have to tackle the angry or violent crowd. Disposed skipper Ramiz Raja should also be credited for presenting a very good picture of Pakistan - both on and off-the-field.

Way back in 1989-90, a Pakistan Under-19 team toured India and the hostile Nagpur crowd threw bottles, stones, missiles, projectiles etc. But Salahuddin Ahmad, who was the manager, ordered his team to stay there. Salahuddin invented a novel method by sending a message to skipper Moin Khan to take Test match fielding so that no stones could reach the slip or gully cordon.

That intelligent move by Salahuddin not only helped the fielders counter the spectators, it paid dividends when Pakistan won that one-dayer by more than 50 runs after having scored 321 in the first outing.

Tendulkar’s attitude from the time when the first stone, in fact a bone, fell near Debahish Mohanty when Pakistan were 172 for three in 32 overs was not very positive. The Indian skipper looked furious and it appeared that he was not willing to continue play.

And when a small stone fell near Saurav Ganguly with Pakistan racing towards the 300-mark being 265 for four in 47.2 overs, Tendulkar decided that enough was enough. He was not only unhappy with stone-throwing but also appeared in a state of panic with the flow of runs that were blazing from the willows of Inzamamul Haq and Moin Khan.

What is even more interesting that when Tendulkar came to the post-match Press conference, he admitted it was a minor issue. ``No hard feelings. Some of the spectators got over-excited a bit.‘’

The question arising here is why didn’t Tendulkar think the same when he was leading his team out of the ground.

The Commissioner of Karachi, Mir Husain Ali, said probably a couple of stones might have been left when the enclosures were cleaned. ``But I don’t think that it was necessary to curtail the innings of the Indian team,‘’ he told Dawn.

Pakistan coach Haroon Rasheed said Sachin Tendulkar complained to the umpire that a big stone was thrown at Saurav Ganguly. ``On the contrary, we were told by officials that nothing of the sort happened.

``I think that Sachin (Tendulkar) might have felt under pressure because we could have scored quite a few runs in the last three overs. In addition to this, I felt the attitude of Sachin was not very positive because he was protesting to the umpires against smaller things,‘’ said Haroon.

Haroon said Tendulkar has reached a stage where there is nothing new to him. ``Sachin has led quite a few times now and he should realise and under the crowd of Pakistan and India.

``Sachin should have been matured enough to handle these situations. I don’t think big stones were thrown in because I don’t find anything on the field. Yes, small stones might have come in but these are minor things and the captain should be a little more diplomatic,‘’ stated Haroon.

Whether the people who threw those stones onto the ground regret their action or Sachin Tendulkar might review his decision to walk out, in the score books it would go down as another match between India and Pakistan marred by violence. The four stoppages consumed 19 minutes and the match had to be curtailed to 47-over-a-side.


AK

PS :- Ab kuch aur excuse soch ke aao.

[This message has been edited by Asif_k (edited July 12, 2002).]

If you are still not convinced and think fans in your country are saints then read this :-

Date-stamped : 02 Oct97 - 14:04
02 October 1997

Rs 1.2m loss recorded from one enclosure

By Our Sports Reporter

KARACHI, Oct 1: The venue of the second one-day international
between Pakistan and India, the National Stadium, suffered heavy
loss when several valuable items were destroyed by the
spectators on Tuesday. ÊÊ[Lycos] Sources said the destruction
was done immediately after Pakistan lost the second game by four
wickets with three balls to spare. [XIBERCOM] A survey by the
cricket board authorities found that maximum damage was done to
Citizen I where out of the fixed 2,113 seats, the spectators
broke 1,613 chairs (77.33 percent seats broken). With each chair
costing Rs 800, a loss of Rs 1.2 million was recorded only from
that enclosure.

Some hospitality boxes were also visited by the officials and it
was found that a huge glass costing Rs 15,000 in box No 4 was
broken. That box had been allocated for some senior police
officials by the Deputy Commissioner.

Similarly, from box No 15 owned by Habib Bank, a television set
was missing. Authorities said that the bank was not responsible
because they had delivered the keys to them with everything in
working order, including the missing television.

Meanwhile, a record sale of Rs 3.7 million was recorded from the
gate. The previous record was Rs 2.8 million that was recorded
in the 1990-91 one-dayer between the West Indies and Pakistan.

The financial loss is expected to be doubled when the officials
visit the remaining enclosures on Thursday.

Source:: Dawn (http://dawn.com/)
http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1997-98/IND_IN_PAK/ARTICLES/KARACHI_DAMAGE_02OCT1997


AK

As much as I would like to reply back with some facts, I will bail out this time, since 4 other Pakistani guppies have PM me about this matter and told me to avoid you, so talk to you later, I've proved my point Shoaib didn't get in Tendulkur's way, and Indians were frustrated of India's lost, and Pakistan is and was a better team.

Sayonara!


Though I dont think that run out was delibrate so I dont wana comment on that.

But here again your lies has been exposed.
you said
"I know I'm getting a little off topic but give me one example where in Pakistan fans have reacted like the Indians after loosing a match.
You will be surprised, there aren't any."

And there is report that Asif posted.

You need to apologize for your statement or atleast accept that you were wrong.

There are bad apples among expactator every wheer ..whether its india or pakistan.

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[This message has been edited by andha_qanoon (edited July 12, 2002).]

Whatever you post, the Indian fans were the ones who actually cause matches to be stopped if their team loses (like always). I remember they once started the BS in Australia too, where the Indian section of the crowd started throwing bottles.

1996 → Semi Final b/w India and Sri Lanka stopped, why because the Indian team was losing miserably and the Indian fans reacted to their loss. I cant forget that no.2 yateem Kambli crying like a baby, as if he was going to win India the match had it not been for the crowd.

Too bad Clive Lloyd was the international referee and not some Indian…

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