i don’t think so these differences r created by us…
"…trust few…?
beware of the rest…??
Pukka bhai,
That should be more posts like the one you had! Thank you for sharing.
In the post you mention the differences amongst the 4 sunni schools, e.g. the 200 differences in salat alone; Pukka bhai, is there a website/link that discusses the differences amongst the 4 sunni school of thoughts? I would be most thankful if you let me know.
Thanks & was-salaam!
You know, between the four Sunni mazhabs the Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki and Shafei there are over two hundred differences in salat alone. Did you know that? Two hundred. But we take it for granted.<<
My brother,
these are not the major differences between Ahlus-Sunnah and the Shiah's but the differences like the one below.
This is a verbatim quotation from the Shia book "ASK THOSE WHO KNOW" by Sayed Mohamed Tijani Smaoui , Chapter 3
"I believe that all these [reports] are from the Umayyads who loved 'A'isha and gave her the highest preference when she served their interests. She narrated for them what they loved [to hear], and she fought against their enemy, 'Ali b. Abi Talib.
I also believe that the Prophet of Allah (S.A.W.) could not love her when she did [things] which we have reported. How could the Prophet (S.A.W.) love someone who would lie, backbite, slander and would doubt Allah and his Prophet, suspecting them of injustice? How could the Prophet of Allah (S.A.W.) love someone who spied upon him, going out of her house without his permission to find out where he had gone? How could the Prophet of Allah (S.A.W.) love someone who, in his presence, insulted his wives even though they were dead? How could the Prophet of Allah (S.A.W.) love someone who hated his son Ibrahim, and accused his mother Marya of lying? How could the Prophet of Allah (S.A.W.) love someone who once came between him and his wives by lying, driven by malice, causing him to divorce her?
How could the Prophet of Allah (S.A.W.) love someone who hated his daughter, al-Zahra, and who hated his brother and cousin, 'Ali b. Abi Talib, to the extent where she could not mention his name and think any good of him? All this and more [occurred] during the life of the Prophet (S.A.W.) After his death, [even] more occurred, discuss it without any restraint."
What kind of brothers of ours are these who say such things about our mother Aisha (mother of all believers) and Allah chose her, Himself for the Messenger(saw).
And the astonishing thing is that he is telling you that he wants to be one with you. He is not talking about being Shia. He is shouting "there is no Sunni nor Shia there is one thing, Islam." But we say to them "no you are different you are Shia." This attitude is a sickness of the devil. He wants to divide us.<<
Yes we are divided because the Shiah chose to follow the path invented by the Devil.
All Praise is to Allah,
Including Shiy'ah as a Kaafir is political and newly invented thing? I ask you to look in the books, look in the literature, history. You will see in those books, the scholars of Islam have given the truth of the Shiy'ah. The Shiy'ah are nothing but the worst of the Kuffar. Sheikh al-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah said Shiy'ah are kaafir. Imam Maalik said Shiy'ah are among the Kuffar. Imam Abu Hanifa said they are Kaafir. Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal said those against the Sahabas should be given the punishment of Death. Imam ash-Shaafei said they are kaafir. You Sunni that say they are not Kaafir, but Muslim, and Muslim that are better then us, Shame and Disgrace be upon you.
The position of the Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, the Sikhs, this is the position of the Shiy'ahs. They are in fact worse then the Jews, Christians, and even Hindus and Sikhs. And Why are they still being labelled Muslims? If the truth is understood about the Shiy'ahs even today, the gov'ts can include them among the Kuffar. But why do we call Shiy'ah kaafir? Is it because of the Sahabas? No. Understand the real reason why we call Shiy'ah Kaafir. Surely you do not know. Is it because of Sahabas, Qur'an, Matham??? NO. You surely do not know. Understand this. You may become a professor, a sheikh ul-Hadith, but until you do not understand the Shiy'ah, you will not understand why they are kaafir.
THERE IS NO BIGGER KAAFIR IN THIS WORLD THEN THE SHIY'AH.
Number 1 reason why we are against the Shiy'ah is Tawheed, 2nd is Risaalat. 3rd is Qur'an. 4th is Sahaba. You all forget the main 3 reasons, and only talk about the last one (Sahaba). This is wrong. Our main reason is because of Tawheed.
-TAWHEED
Our Kalma is La Ilaha Ill Allah - Muhammad ar-Rasul Allah.
X-tians is La Ilaha Ill Allah - Isaa ul-Allah
Yahudis is La Ilaha Ill Allah - Musa Kalimullah
Because the Christians and the Yahoodis change one part of their kalma, they have become Kaafir. Shiy'ah have added 5 parts to their Kalma. Christians and Jews change one part and they have been labelled Kaafir. Whereas the Shiy'ah have added 5 parts and you still call them Muslim?
La ilaha ill Allah - Muhammad ar-Rasul Allah - Ali ul-Waliullah - Wasiyu rasulillah - Khalifatu bila Fasal and Khomeini added Khomeini Hujjatullah.
If shiy'ahs say the added after Muhammad ar-Rasul Allah is not part of the Kalma, then By Allah I ask, why are the childrens being taught this kalma in their schools?????? This is in their books.
First comes Kalma, and this is their kalma, let alone the rest of the reasons why we are against them. End of story. Shiy'ah you are Kaafir.
My brothers, understand Shiy'ahs kalma is different from the Kalma of the Muslimeen.
Shiy'ahs: the kalma in your deeniyaat, prove from 'Ali RA that he read the same kalma. Prove from his book. If u can't answer from Ali RA, Answer from Hassan RA, if not him, then Husayn RA, if not him then Zair ul-Abadeen, if not him then, Imaam Baaqer, if not him then, Jaafer Thabit, if not him then, Musa Qazim, Raza Qazim, Taqi Ali, Naqi Ali.
Your kalma is different from the kalma your 12 Imaams read. It means therefore there religion (Islam), is different from your religion.
Allahu Akbar.
That is why the Jews are better then you. Atleast their kalma is from their Prophet, your's is not from your 12 Imaams.
In your book al-Kafi, it says ALLAH SWT SOMETIMES LIES (NAUOZUBILLAH). Even a Christian, a Yahoodi, a Hindu, a Sikh does not say this. Indeed you are worst then these Kaafirs. Al-Kafi in Kitaabul Iman it says Allah SWT sometimes lies. Imam asks how does He lie? Then Imam says that after Jaafer Thabit, Allah will give the Imaamat to Ismail (his son), and when the time passed, then Allah forgot his promise and gave the Imaamat to Musa Qazim. Then it was asked why Allah SWT did this, and Imaam said Allah SWT sometimes lies. ASTAGHFIRULLAH. May Allah CURSE the Shiy'ah.
The Aqeedah of the Shiy'ah is worse then the Christian and the Jews.
al-Kafi is not some ordinary book. It is a book to the Shiy'ahs like the Sahih Bukhari to the Muslimeen.
-RISAALAT.
In al-Kafi it says that Muhammad SAW could not reach the martaba that the 12 Imaams reached. Astaghfirullah. Even the Yahoodis don't call anyone else bigger then their Prophet.
Shiy'ah YOU ARE OF THE KUFFAR.
My brothers, Shiy'ah is a kaafir that calls the Prophet Muhammad SAW the last Prophet, yet still says that he could not reach the martaba then 12 Imaams reached.
Khomeini said in his book, Tahreer ul Waseela said, WHY DO YOU TALK OF MUHAMMAD SAW THAT NEVER SUCCEEDED IN HIS LIFE. May Allah CURSE Khomeini.
-QUR'AN
Qur'an has never been changed, alhamdulillah. Allah SWT says the protection of the Qur'an is with Allah. In the 3 books (Torah, Ingeel, Zuboor) it is known that they have been changed. But the Qur'an, has never been changed.
Shiy'ah say Qur'an has been changed. In one of the Translations of the Qur'an of the Shiy'ah, which is called "Tarjumai Maqbool" in this Translation, in 14th Juz, Mullah Maqbool says whereever in the Qur'an the word Shaytaan comes, Wa Qala ash-Shaytaan -- thats Umar ibn al-Khattab. May Allah SWT curse the Shiy'ahs.
The Prophet SAW said about Umar ibn al-Khattab that if the prophethood continued, the next Prophet would be Umar.
Shiy'ah say about the Qur'an that it has been changed. They say the real Qur'an is missing. They say 3 parts of the Qur'an is missing. They say the real Qur'an has 17,000 verses.
Shiy'ahs Qur'an is other then the Qur'an of the Muslimeen. May Allah Curse the Shiy'ahs.
-SAHABAS
Something the Shiy'ahs have said that even the Yahoodis and the Christians haven't said about the followers of their religion. Shiy'ah say, Imam Mehdi will come, and say burying Abu Bakr RA and Umar ibn al-Khattab being buried next to the Prophet SAW is the world's most biggest mistake. Then they say, Imam Mehdi will proceed, and he's going to rip off the qabar of Abu Bakr RA and Umar ibn al-Khattab. Whne he does, he will see their kafan is clean, and their bodies are in peace and perfect. Then the Muslimeen will say, SEE, Abu Bakr RA and Umar ibn al-Khattab were truthful, that followed the right path, and that is why their kafan is clean and their bodies and in perfect shape. Imam Mehdi will then say. NO. The reason why they are in perfect shape is because I have to give them Adhaab and i had to take them out of here. Then Imam Mehdi will take off the kafan from Abu Bakr RA and Umar ibn al-Khattab's face and bring them to life. Then he will say to Abu Bakr RA, O Abu Bakr and Umar, all problems in the world that happened for 1000's of years is all because of you. If you gave the Khilafah to Ali none of this would have happened. No one would have drinked alcohol, no one would have lied. Then Abu Bakr RA will say, INDEED, IT WAS ALL OUR FAULT. Then Imam Mehdi will take out the bodies of Abu Bakr RA and Umar ibn al-Khattab out of their qabar and take off their kafan. Then he will in the streets of Madinah, make Abu Bakr RA and Umar RA naked, and hang them on a tree. Then Qiyamah will come. May Allah Curse the Shiy'ah.
O brothers, no one says this even of your father. They don't say they will take out your father out of his qabar and make him naked.
This is said about Abu Bakr RA and Umar ibn al-Khattab RA, and you call the Shiy'ah your brothers?
You have been given the information, you have been given the reality of the Shiy'ahs and you still see the Shiy'ahs among your brothers? Thumhari zindagion par laanat or jawaani par laanat ho.
SHIY'AH YOU WERE KAAFIR YESTERDAY AND YOU STILL ARE A KAAFIR TODAY, MAY ALLAH CURSE THE SHIY'AH, CURSE KHOMEINI.
O Brothers! Tell me if these Shiy'ahs are not kaafir, tell me who is?
-based on the speech given by Mullah Zia ur-Rahman Farooqi
Zakariyyah al-Madani
naam achaa.....baat buree
gitt
shia/sunni r bhai bhai and its jahil and illitrate ppl who r trying to fire up hatered between the 2 sects
shabash zakariyaah bro go and have a sleep.......looks like u need a rest
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Zachariah;
Which "imams" are you talking about - Shafii, Malik, Hanifah !
Go look back and see who were their teachers _ Imam Mohammed Bakir and Imam Jafer Sadiq.
Your imams were taught the words of Islam by our holy and sinless imams.
What examples are you giving from your imams who were nothing but mere students of the prophet's (pbuh) holy progeny.
If it wasn't for Imam Husain (as), you would now be following the religion of Yazid (May Allah curse him) so stop your bigotry and go back to the closet where you belong and learn of the true Islam.
And heed my advice - stop short of insulting the 14 sinless creations of Allah (swt) least you be struck down.
Allah's blessing be on Muhammed (his holy and mightiest messenger and the seal of prophets) and his holy progeny.
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Guys,
Stick to the subject when it comes to discussion. No need to point fingers.