Shireen ki talkh baateiN/Should Sheryar Khan be fired

[Amal]

Excerpts from a Shireen M Mazari article in The News
Please don’t move it under the pile of hundreds of replies in other threads. Thanx

Why did Pakistan not lodge a protest against the appointment of Hair as a test umpire for the present series is a question whose answer lies in the colonial subservience of the PCB chief to all things British

Five, Pakistani cricket needs professional management. It does not deserve to be abandoned to retirees from the Foreign Office or disgruntled cricketers with their own agendas. A PCB that does not have the courage or inclination to defend our boys in their time of need should be disbanded.

I have stated earlier in these columns, and I will reiterate once again that the present PCB chief has been bad news for Pakistani cricket and should immediately be removed. We need someone who will have the spirit to defend and support our team in trying times. Cricket is a sport which is played to win – it is not a diplomatic tool nor should it be sacrificed in the name of diplomacy.

[abbasali1985]

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the last quote is spot-on

[funguy]

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Shireen can't tell a cover drive from a leg glance. Who the fk is she to even comment on cricket. What are her credentials. Who gives a ****.

[CheGuvera]

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@funguy

Shireen can't tell a cover drive from a leg glance. Who the fk is she to even comment on cricket. What are her credentials. Who gives a ****.

Neither can Sheryar Khan, the PCB chief and his foreign office "retiree" cronies masquerading as "cricket administrators" and "officials"...

[system]

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Dilawar Mani, Malcom Speed, ECB head, Australian et al have nothing to do with cricket on professional basis, yet they are in those positions because of their Management skills. Same as in any other professional sport, administrators do not have to be ex-professional players. Basketball, soccer are just two examples.

[CheGuvera]

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@fartguru

Dilawar Mani, Malcom Speed, ECB head, Australian et al have nothing to do with cricket on professional basis, yet they are in those positions because of their Management skills. Same as in any other professional sport, administrators do not have to be ex-professional players. Basketball, soccer are just two examples.

That's why ICC is such a mess, wreaking of double standards and chaos...

[Sir_Dig_A_Lot]

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@fartguru

Dilawar Mani, Malcom Speed, ECB head, Australian et al have nothing to do with cricket on professional basis, yet they are in those positions because of their Management skills. Same as in any other professional sport, administrators do not have to be ex-professional players. Basketball, soccer are just two examples.

Finally, a sane voice.

I have been screaming this on this board for weeks now. I am critical of Sheheryar Khan's performance in this fiasco, but I have also maintained that it's unfair to criticize him for him not being a cricketer himself. That's an ass of an argument and tantamount to criticizing sports journalists for not being Test Cricketers themselves. WTF? We want experienced managers for managerial and administrative positions. This is especially true in the case of Pakistan because all of our ex-Cricketers are disgruntled petty individuals, with a penchant for playing politics with the affairs of Pakistan Cricket. Javed, Wasim and Aamir Sohail being the three biggest assholes (in this matter) of all.

[CheGuvera]

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@Sir Dig A Lot

Finally, a sane voice.

I have been screaming this on this board for weeks now. I am critical of Sheheryar Khan's performance in this fiasco, but I have also maintained that it's unfair to criticize him for him not being a cricketer himself. That's an ass of an argument and tantamount to criticizing sports journalists for not being Test Cricketers themselves. WTF? We want experienced managers for managerial and administrative positions. This is especially true in the case of Pakistan because all of our ex-Cricketers are disgruntled petty individuals, with a penchant for playing politics with the affairs of Pakistan Cricket. Javed, Wasim and Aamir Sohail being the three biggest assholes (in this matter) of all.

Well none of these qualities are a forte or even a limited competency of Shryar kahn, he has no track record of being manager or a administrator of a mutli-national organization with a history of success and resilience...his only expertise is in sucking up and regurgitating what his masters in the have spat out...

[Sir_Dig_A_Lot]

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@CheGuvera

Well none of these qualities are a forte or even a limited competency of Shryar kahn, he has no track record of being manager or a administrator of a mutli-national organization with a history of success and resilience...his only expertise is in sucking up and regurgitating what his masters in the have spat out...

No offense CheGuvera, but you do sound like a very bitter person. Any relation to Aamir Sohail?

[CheGuvera]

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@Sir Dig A Lot

No offense CheGuvera, but you do sound like a very bitter person. Any relation to Aamir Sohail?

Lets rephrase that question, why are you so adament to blindly support shrbeyar kahn are you his aspiring damaad????

[Sir_Dig_A_Lot]

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@CheGuvera

Lets rephrase that question, why are you so adament to blindly support shrbeyar kahn are you his aspiring damaad????

Funny you keep saying that while I constantly state that I am critical of his performance on this issue and that his hasty interview to press has damaged our position.

I differ from you that I stop my criticism at his performance, and you take it down to personal levels. I question his work, and you question the legitimacy of his position. Sounds an awful lot like something Aamir Sohail would do.

[CheGuvera]

Should Sheryar Khan be fired?

Here is another feather in the cap of Sheryar Khan...as if the mishandling of the whole Oval test fiasco, lingering questions of corruption in the ticket sales in the Ind-Pak series of 2004, appointment of his foreign office cronies, delaying and blocking the finalization of the constitution, refusal to play India on a regular basis (thereby giving up on much-needed cash), constant clashes with regional cricket associations within Pakistan, and not showing courage and spine when needed on a number of occasion, was not enough...

I say he should be let go and in his place a person of courage, no-nonsense attitude, no history of appeasment to the goras and some cricketing knowledge, first class experience would help, should be appointed as the PCB chief...

Shahryar blamed for previous negligence against Hair

John Thakur Das

Karachi—Former President of International Cricket Council (ICC) Ehsan Mani last night revealed that despite his advise to Pakistan Cricket Board to make written complaint against Australian umpire Darrell Hair but the PCB never bothered to register its written protest.

Commenting on the infamous Oval cricket test match incident Ehsan Mani said the match ended in a dreadful way in the 129 years history of Test Cricket.

In a media interview Mani said things were not handled effectively by Pakistan Cricket Board and team officials at Oval saying “in my opinion PCB and team officials handled things in wrong and most un-appropriate manner that led things get out of control of Pakistan team officials.”

Pakistan team captain Inzimamul Haq should be knowing, the rules and should have challenged the umpire Darrel Hair on the field rather than deciding not to go on the field in protest after tea session, he assessed.

Ehsan Mani who relinquished charge as President ICC on July 7, 2006, to a question made this startling revelation “that during England’s tour of Pakistan last year, when Darrell Hair was involved in a run out incident against Inzimamul Haq, he as President of the ICC had advised PCB Chairman Shahryar Khan to register a formal and proper written complaint to ICC against the Australian umpire Darrell Hair.

[CheGuvera]

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@Sir Dig A Lot

Funny you keep saying that while I constantly state that I am critical of his performance on this issue and that his hasty interview to press has damaged our position.

I differ from you that I stop my criticism at his performance, and you take it down to personal levels. I question his work, and you question the legitimacy of his position. Sounds an awful lot like something Aamir Sohail would do.

Lets discuss this is another thread I’ve opened up:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=228304

[fkhan2]

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can you give the source of this article?

[CheGuvera]

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@fkhan2

can you give the source of this article?

I got the article from The News website...

[Rock_Express]

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Who could possibly be the next chairmain of the PCB? Most probably another retired general or civil servant.

[CheGuvera]

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@Rock_Express

Who could possibly be the next chairmain of the PCB? Most probably another retired general or civil servant.

Lets bring back Majid Khan...Also, Mushtaq Mohammad wouldn't be a bad idea either...

[Rock_Express]

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@CheGuvera

Lets bring back Majid Khan...Also, Mushtaq Mohammad wouldn't be a bad idea either...

Its a fact and I have already mentioned previously that appointments of people for the board are dictatated by wo ever is in the government. I am not sure how Majid Khan is viewed by this government or whether he has any supporters / contacts with the government. Not a bad idea.

I am not too sure about Mushtaq Ahmed simply because I don't think he has a strong enough personality to deal with crisis being faced currently.

[CheGuvera]

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@Rock_Express

Its a fact and I have already mentioned previously that appointments of people for the board are dictatated by wo ever is in the government. I am not sure how Majid Khan is viewed by this government or whether he has any supporters / contacts with the government. Not a bad idea.

I am not too sure about Mushtaq Ahmed simply because I don't think he has a strong enough personality to deal with crisis being faced currently.

If thats the case, then either Sheikh Rasheed or Amir Liaqat ought to be the leading candidates...

[Cool_Breeze]

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@CheGuvera

Lets bring back Majid Khan...Also, Mushtaq Mohammad wouldn't be a bad idea either...

I agree. These 2 may be good candidates. I still believe, no one can be better than Imran Khan but that is out of the question due to Imran's involvment in the politics and parliament.
we need to get rid of the management that has no experience of cricket at all. Just watching the game doesn't make you an expert.
The chairman should be the person who has hands on knowledge on both, cricket as well as mgmt. And he needs to be somewhat aggressive like Imran Khan.