hey guys please help me out. ARE SHIAS MUSLIMS. I read somewhere that there is anothere shia subgroup in AFRICA, and they have a living prophet. how true is that and if that is true then does that not make SHIAS as non-muslims.
Reformer
Hey bro,
read the topic "Ahmed Deedat on Shias" by ramesha on the same forum.
Salaam
yeah i read it, but i still have questions.
Go ahead with your questions then....
I think i got my answer.
(I seek refuge in the accursed Satan, In the name of God the Beneficent the Merciful. The Holy Quran says:
"And if you turn away (from Islam and the obedience of Allah), He will substitute you for some other people, and they will not be like you." "Quran 47:38")
Reformer
Reformer..yar you are an educatd person..and you very well know that both shia's and sunni, what ever is the difference,both have one prophet and one Quran.....i dont think anyone heard this kind of nonsense...try to have some common sense and dont make fun of religions..thanks
Salaam momin,
Did i disrespect Reliogion(s) in any way.
think again.
Reformer
Reformer you didn't disrespect anyone....i've been wanting to ask the same question, so are shais muslims???????
There are all these sections people have made, and alot of these groups are considered muslims......how can that be? They believe different things, and in Islam, Allah has already told us the right way....so how can they all be considered muslims?????? It's confusing.....what is the right one???????
Shouldn't Islam be without all these groups???
Khuda kisi ko kis par fidaa na kare.....
Agar kare to Qyamat tak judaa na kare........
aapkiamanat thats really silly..why dont u read the article of ahmed deedat..cant u do some reading if u want to know about shias? ask sensible questions..i can go ahead and call sunnis to be kaafir also..takecare
Sheraaz bhai you can call who ever you want whatever you want…no one knows except Allah…take care also
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Khuda kisi ko kis par fidaa na kare…
Agar kare to Qyamat tak judaa na kare…
Hey sheraz
stop whining dude.
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I just raised a question here as to whether they are muslims or not, but u kept whining instead of giving an answer. So tell me is there a shia subgroup in Africa,and do they have a prophet(LIVING PROPHET!
whinning? man i just really find u very illetrate bout ur religion..people who believe in a living prophets arent shia..they are qadyani
Go to these sites and learn the things which shia and shia sites never tell you. You will see and learn about their most inner beliefs and intentions towards sunnis and beloved sahabas. Shias and shia sites never tell you this stuff because they are not Muslims and they practice something called Taqiyyah(lying, concealing the truth<al-kafi vol 9.> )
They claim they love family of prophet, yet they curse and slander most important people in prophets life, his wives.
Wanna learn more about shiaism with references from their own books visit these sites: http://islamicweb.com/index.asp?folder=beliefs&file=shia http://www.salaf.indiaaccess.com/shiites/index.htm
http://www.sultan.org/shia.html
http://www.shariah.net/shariah/aqaid/shia/Shi-ism.htm
Fatal blows to shiaism: http://www.shariah.net/in-defense-of-sunnah/default.htm
These sites have everything you need to know about their basic/hidden/and unislamic practices. They have all the reference from the shia books you will be shocked to see their distortion of facts, and distortion of quran and sunnah of Mohammad. Good Luck!
PS: They will never tell you the truth about them, you need to read their books to know the reality and kufr they commit. “chor kabhi apni choori nahi maanta”
Take it easy.
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This is stupid!!
Shia's non-muslims, where have I heard this before???
No Shias do not have a living prophet!
Shias Have a living Imam but he is ghiab(hiding)
As for taqqayiah I will shed light on that later!!
As apaca said respect ramazan
[This message has been edited by Girl from Quraysh (edited December 03, 2000).]
Shah Jahan
Can you shed light also on a living (hiding) Imam. And why he is hiding?