SHI'A

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anyone really interested to know can check ou t this link
http://www2.mozcom.com/~habib/islamstu.htm

its better to read this then reading cut and paste by shia haters

so basically this book is by one good shia scholer ..read it for usrelf ..hope u enjoy it

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Shia =
www.sultan.org

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As you all know, shias practice “taqiyyah”(conceament of truth, lying) so how can you take their distored work of hadiths as facts? They have distored many hadiths just to meet their needs and so they can convince people according to their agenda.

We should convince people according to quran and hadiths and according to the agenda of Prophet, not some 20th century Imaam with distored hadiths and superstitious ideas…like shias do.

Please visit these sites for more accurate information(with correct-references)
http://islamicweb.com/index.asp?folder=beliefs&file=shia

http://www.salaf.indiaaccess.com/shiites/index.htm

Hey sherazz, I don’t think you understand when someone says: “STOP IT with this sect building” - Do you? May Allah guide you to the right path, in the light of QURAN AND SUNNAH.

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Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom and good exhortation, and reason with them in the best way. Lo! your Lord best knows those who go astray from His path, and He knows best those who are rightly guided.

(Qur'an, 16:125)

Watcher this mean SHUT UP about your false stupidity about Shias

This also means that you have no right to generalize!

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watcher by saying a wrong thing 100 times wont make it right

let the people read the book..if they find somthing strange or weird they are free to ask questions

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thanks shah jahan

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Any time brother! If I won't stick up for you who will?

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Wrong things? Your are the one who says wrong and false over and over again and you are the one who fails to accepts the truth of QURAN and SUNNAH. It is well written in your shia books that “taqiyyah”(concealment of truth, lying) is major part of your religion.
Here is example of your boooks how they tell you to lie and deceive others:

Please note that the Shi’ites attribute the following to Abu Abdullah (Ja’far as-Sadiq):
“Mix with them(i.e. non-shia) externally but oppose them internally.” (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.116)** now this Shi’ite hadeeth means that they should mix with us and try to decieve us..It trully shows us Muslims what the Shi’ites are!

“A believer who does not dissimulate is like a body without a head.” (Tafseer al-Askari) It is also interesting that the Shi’ites article of Faith “Taqayyah” is just like what the Talmudites (jews who follow the Talmud) say about the Goyyims (non-jews,) as all Talmudites say that they should lie to us non-jews..You see this explains a lot about the Shi’ites and their Similarities with the Jews as the Shi’ite sect was started by Abdullah bin Saba’. (a Jew who started the shi’ite religion, just with the intent of trying to destroy the Muslims…

“Nine tenths of religion is taqiyyah (dissimulation), hence one who does not dissimulate has no religion.” (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.110) This shows us that Shi’ites have to lie to us as if they don’t then they will not be called Muslims by other Shi’ites…it shows us how sick is the Shi’ite faith.

All of the above references and practice of taqiyyah(concealment of truth, lying) in shiaism contradicts with the verses in quran here:
Allah states in the Noble Quran: “Surely those who hide from people the clear proofs and guidance, which we clarified in the Book (Qur’an), will be cursed by Allah and all those who curse.” (2:159)
And the statement of the Prophet (s.a.w) who said: “Whoever is asked for knowledge and conceals it will have a bridle of fire around his neck on the Day of Judgement.” (Abu Dawood, Tirmidhi)

I gave you references, now don’t put your tongue in my mouth and say im lying. lol. Admit it, you refuse the quranic verses and accept the words of your Imaams. That is shirk.

You post distored hadiths and misleading tranlation of quran. You ask people to ask Ali for help and not Allah. You consider Imams to know the future and more than prophets. Are those Islamic things? Now, not even Admin is taking any notice on your posting false and incorrect information which is NOT correct according to QURAN and SUNNAH and historical facts for that matter. Shame on you.

Being zidi is one thing, being stupid is very serious problem, which one are you tryng to be? Grow up. Bye bye, take it easy.

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Watcher,
Tell me From Quran That taqqaiyah is wrong!

If you read the quran more often you will find lots of People had concealed thier faith Example:

*Ashab-e-Khaf(the men who are still sleeping) hid thier faith from the tyrant king!

*lots of people including the Firauns wife hid thier faith from Firaun inside the palace!

These are just some of the amny examples of Taqqayaih in Islam if they could do it than why can't we?

These ayats you have mentioned are for the kafir and munnafikkeen who know the truth and still dont show it!

Let me quote again!
Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom and good exhortation, and reason with them in the best way. Lo! your Lord best knows those who go astray from His path, and He knows best those who are rightly guided.

(Qur'an, 16:125)

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All of the above references and practice of taqiyyah(concealment of truth, lying) in shiaism contradicts with the verses in quran here:
Allah states in the Noble Quran: “Surely those who hide from people the clear proofs and guidance, which we clarified in the Book (Qur’an), will be cursed by Allah and all those who curse.” (2:159)
And the statement of the Prophet (s.a.w) who said: “Whoever is asked for knowledge and conceals it will have a bridle of fire around his neck on the Day of Judgement.” (Abu Dawood, Tirmidhi)

“Taqiyyah” means in shiaism to hide or conceal. Weather its truth or whatever. There is a verse above, you might come up with your own translation of it. I don’t care. Take it easy.

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Bye.

You are again, stick to your false beliefs and superstition as gum sticks to the bottom of the shoe. [Now don’t throw that back at me again] lol

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PS: You are suppose to follow Islam the Islam of Prophet Mohammad. Mohammad never asked us to practice “taqiyyah”(concealment of Truth, lying) and Allah never asked us to do that either. You are not suppose to follow some king, orFERON! What the hell is wrong with you man?

V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**

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