This is a really good video on shia-sunni unity, and the points should be noted and adhered to.
We have such bigger problems as an ummah, as a muslim community, that if you dwell into the minute of things and destroy each other, you have surely not done any work for your lord, be it sunni or shia.
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Another useful talk given by the same speaker Abdullah al Andalusi.
I urge every Muslim to stand up and confront any preacher who gives falan Kaafir, falaan Kaafir fatwas. Spread the word of unity within your families, friends, neighbourhood et. al.
The reason is:
You people abuse the sahabies of the prophet (pbuh) who we love veyr mcuh.
You abuse and revile h.abu bakr, h.umer, husman, and you
slander and abuse our mother of belivers h.aisha and hafsa beyond imagination.
This makes our blood BOIL
do u get it?
would u want to be united with the perosn who abuses and calles your mother a whore,
ould you want to beunited with the people who insults and hates someone your respect as h.ali.
NAY
NEITHER DO WE
And worst of ALL, u people r liars and DEcivers. U people have proved throughout history and made your rank that of untrustworthy people.
and we know your taqqiyah doctrines, thers nothing hidden anymore
You just act nice inside you hate us more than dogs.
You just want to create unity because you know you u need us.
we dont need u, and we never want the help of peole who disrespect our pious caliphas.
there are so many proofs and clear evidences proving they are trusthworhty and that there was nothingbut love and firsnhip between them and h.ali, but you can never accept it.
h.ali gave one of his dughter/sisters to HMUmer in marriage, which you well know of.
still you do not admit the love between them two.
No unity for the pople whos chief beliefs are that our (nz) sunnis mothers ARE WHORES (NZ).
Be Thankful to God, you havent recived fatwa like ahmadies.
When Allah sends down the proofs of the H.Aisha from the Skys in surat-noor, then who the hell are you to slander her.
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For the sake of Islam, shia-sunni shld stand together.
This is the second time (this week) Bro Cresent did his part to unite muslims, no one shld ruin his cause. I am always vote of one who is for unity.
i just saw the first video, i salute the guy !
The reason is:
You people abuse the sahabies of the prophet (pbuh) who we love veyr mcuh.
You abuse and revile h.abu bakr, h.umer, husman, and you
slander and abuse our mother of belivers h.aisha and hafsa beyond imagination.
This makes our blood BOIL
do u get it?
You lick the feet of the all time enemies of our Imams [as], that makes our blood boil too, so one has to find some middle way so that both sects could live peacfuly.
I am also with the Unity. 
O Yeah, you people received the all time certificate of honesty and loyalty right? The example of abandoning the funeral of very prophet [s] you claim to love is suffice to tell everything.
The doctrine is Quranic/Islamic, so no need to make fuss over it. The Sunni ulema have acknowledged that the Khariji cult is the only one that reject the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyah, so if you want to be one of Khawarij, be it.
If they were so pious why did Sahaba and Tabayeen required to rebel against one of them to the extent that they murdered him? I can give many other such examples but this will take the thread somewhere else.
Oh yeah, thats why the daughter of Holy Prophet [s] you ‘claim’ to love died angry of one of your caliphs.
Fatwa my foot, we do not need certificate of being Muslim from anyone, first the other party needs to prove his Imaan before it shows audacity to pass any edict on us.
Nauzobillah, have some shame, I can understand that you have animosity towards Shias but no need to stoop to low that you attribute such a filthy belief to Shias. We have reservations on the conduct of Ayesha, like her coming out of her home to wage war against the Imam /Caliph pf the time etc but no Shia cast doubts on the character/morality of Ayesha, on the contrary, those who had accused Ayesha of adultery were three Sahaba and you still venerate them.
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well...that didnt last too long. I was expecting a little longer.
I think this shia/sunni unity is only going to work for those who have an open mind and accept that despite our differences, our core beliefs about tawhid, nabuwwah, qiyamah, salah sawm hajj and so much more, are the same, yet the narow minded folks choose to overlook these and focus on the relatively minor things that we differ on.
I dont mind educated debates or discussions, but these one sided petty insults and accusations are slightly immature and generally a waste of time. And God does not like vain discourse or time wasters, so it is better to stay away.
A wise man once said; never argue with an idiot, for they will bring you down to thier level, and then beat you with experience. I must say i totally agree with the wise man.
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^ agreed unity doesn't mean, we have to change our believes. Being open minded here means u accept others with the their differences.
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abdullah andalusi is cool i like him a lot some months back i posted this video too
i think he realy knows what he is talking about and this broader understanding is in sharp contrast with the pseudo-salafi mentality today
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brother BOYNICE yes its true that sahaba cast doubts on aisha and they were punished but their intentions were good and no grudge shud be held against them
brother BOYNICE yes its true that sahaba cast doubts on aisha and they were punished but their intentions were good and no grudge shud be held against them
Casted doubts was a bit wrong, they actually accused her of adultery Nauzobillah and hence were punished, obviously that was not out of 'good intention'. But anywways, thats not our topic here and I was not saying that we should have grudge against those Sahaba for this, my sole point was to clarify the accusation on Shias that they are the one who believe that Ayesha was godforbid invovled in any such activity.
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^ bro they were punished and Allah forgave them ...its over
some sahaba ran from battlefield but Allah forgave them ...accusing aisha of adultry is not a unforgivable sin like shirk
To Nice-boy
I am laughing at your shia=typical reply to my post.
A typical reply, of false and incorrect arguments of which you presented have been given and proven time and time again which u do not accept so there is no point in debating or argueing with u. The refutables of thes are at somwhere like www.ahlel-bayt.com/org with proofs from shia and sunni books.
But Lets just to cut the long story short put it this way:
From OUR trusted and respected SOURCES, and we sunnis believe that there was no enemousity between h.ali and the 3 caliph’as.
This is proven from the fact that
H.ALI GAVE BAIT OF ALLEGIANCE TO H.ABU BAKR. To us this shows he was in agreement and obdidience with him.
So from where does the bitternes come from? We do not belive a man of bravery and calibour of h.ali would give a bait to someone not worthy of it. We believe he did not give bait under any condition of compulsion.
If H.Abur Bakr was unworthy of the bait, if he was an evil person (nz) like u shias belive, H.ALI Would never ever show support and support his false image for him by giving him the bait, even if it meant sacrificing himself , his blood his family, for the truth.
THE SAME WAY HIS SON H.HUSAAAIN DID NOT GIVE BAIT TO YAZEED IN KARBALA!
Any way ofcourse ur sources dont agree to this, so we will shall leave it at that.
Nor have i got the time for u.
Secondly: The other smaller argumenst you pose, are all refutable.
If you went to a website such as ahlel-bayt.com/org you would= get a concise and referanced reply to each of your confused issues.
cutting long story short.
Yes taqqiyah is in the koran, but only in particular instances it is allowed in deen, RATHER than a way of religion and major part of faith, which you peoples have made it.
and sorry but it is common knwoledge now how much yoru scholars malign and insult h.aisha.
We know you people hate h.aisha to your guts.
There are online u-tube vuideos of your adverseries and even SCHOLARS ridiculing H.AISHA,so who u trying to fool?
EVEN U HAVE THAT SPecifc DAY OF MOHORAM, called TABARAA, which is a night speficifciaaly dedicated just for you to gather as one and abuse and insult the 3 caliphas h.aiosha, h.hafsa!
YOUR r SICK BRO.
If anybody wanst to know the true reality of these shias and thier beliefs please make use of the vast sources of the internet. Go to a reputable islamic website, that illustrated what they really believe with proof, such as ahlul-bayt.com.org, or get a shia/sunni perpestives on islam book.
The diferances between sunnies are very significant and cannot be ignored.
in reality SHIAS Everything is different from sunnies, so there is no common ground for unity.
SHIAS KALMA IS DIFFERENT FROM SUUNIS EVEN. When somebodies kalma is not even one which is the basic foundation of belef then which premise does unity come from?!
Also shias differ from sunnies in other fundementals of:
-namaz
-azaan
-wuzu method (sunnies do wuzu from hands, head then feet; shias do feet first then come up)- and we know incorrect wuzu invalidates prayer…
and many others.
THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT SHIAS IS THAT THEY HATE OUR 3 CALIPHS.
YOU ABUSE OUR 3 CALIPHAS AND H.AISHA MORE THAN ANY CREATION EVER MADE BY ALLAH, THEN HOW CAN WE UNITE WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS?
u people make our bloods boils abusing the people who we fear even taking the name of without respect.
U R LUCKY bro u havent recived fatwa. Yes fatwa ur foot. Becos if u did u wud have been in serious trouble.
Yes, it was some sahabies that discreditted h.aisha in al-ifq, but unlike shias we do not belive that our sahabies were infallible, they were human and inclined to sin, there were new converts coming to islam all the time who did not have faith as good as earlier ones, nevrthless they were checked and accounted for by Allah and were forgiven.
and also there were hypocrites amongst the muslims who spread this scandal more.
Nvertheless We SUNNIES love and respect both THE Prophet (pbuh) SAHABIES Aswell as his FAMILY of H.ALI.
But we we do not want nor are encouraged to have unity in such disrespectful and untrushworthy people.
In a recent fatwa given by the Imam of Makka, he also dissallowed Unity between shias and sunnies on the above basis i have given.
And i dont know why shias r alway beggin for unity?
By far the Shia sect is one of the most differing and distant sect from Sunnies and least to be unified to.
and im not going to remain here and argue with u better so better u shut up or go to some other place.
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really ?
Thanks for not using r.a with yazeed l.a and again did Imam Ali a.s do the bait ?
thanks for making it clear now 
We shld have a grudge for anyone who went on war against Imam Ali a.s however we dont take it to the extreme like u did, or some of ur sahaba did.
Wow i never knew we have specific day in moharam to do tabaraa on any of the 3 caliphs or ladies u mentioned. However on night of Ashura, we do Send lanat on Killers of Imam Hussain a.s
Same Quran, Same ALLAH, same last Prophet s.a.w, 124000 prophets, same haj,both Believe in Ramzan, Qurbani on eid-ul-azha, Takbeer bfr killing animal, eating halal, Mashallah Parda, Hijab. There r differences offcourse but there r common things too
Kalma might be different but we call same ALLAH same Rasool In our kalma, and dont sunnis beleive that Imam Ali a.s was Wali of ALLAH ?
Way of saying Prayer is Different but we both face kaba pray to same ALLAH, offer five prayers. yea Azan is little different but they way of callin muslims for prayer is Azan for both.
Wuzu is different but both do wuzu so we can pray to our ALLAH when we r clean.
You have a total right to hate shia’s coz we curse the ones that u happen to love, but dont u see that we curse on the same base ? we curse em coz, we beleive they made bibi Fatima s.a angry and went on war against Imam Ali or showed hate against Ahle-bait in a different way.
U dont watch Tv, dont u see how every one accuses talibans of not only being muslims but even being animals. So i see a fatwa there first
So if a sahabi accused Aisa for something then its fine coz sahabi’s r infallable, they can make a mistake ?They can be forgiven on accusing Prophets wife for bad stuff but … shias r wrong to curse her for the hate she had for Imam Ali which she showed by showing up at the battle field coz ?.. we r shias ?
**If someone curses Aisha ur blood boils ? but when someone goes on war against Imam Ali he/ she is r.a coz ??.. double standards ? if ur blood boils coz some shia cursed Aisha coz u love her… then it shld boil when u see mahviya and Aisha on war against Ali If u Love Imam ALi ??? is that ur love for Him and his family ??? **
As said earlier, we dont appritiate ur love for Ummyaads but for the love of ALLAH and His Prophet s.a.w we can shake hands. Unity was what Imam Ali wanted and thats why he didnt intrept any of the 1st three caliphs… Division is what Umyaads wanted thats why mavia was first one to declare war.
if so he shld stop shia’s from Coming to Hajj. There r alot of sunni scholars who want unity among sects.
coz this is what Imam Ali wanted and mahviya went other wise by declaring war.
I hope u dont any of my comments personally
but My formula is simple … Always trust scholars who teach lesson of unity. Coz we need Muslims more than we need shias, or sunni’s
Wasalam
Aqeel
Amazing logic. Just because you are sunni you are right and just because the others are Shia they are wrong. Let me quote a website that will refute all the points raised in your website and more?
Arguments don’t work like that. Stop learning religion from your the neighborhood Mullah, pick up Quran and read it with an open mind. Refute with the holy book and your argument will be accepted.
I have always believed that is a good idea to debate in order to understand better where the other person is coming from, not to malign and hurt. If Imam-e-Kaba is your pope then by all means hate shias don’t talk about unity and cast them aside.
Your english language skills are horrible, adversaries are the opposite of allies.
Shias don’t cast aspersions on the charecter of Aisha, though they dislike her. She was reprimanded in Quran by Allah along with Hafsa in Surah Tahreem. Further, she went against Quranic injuctions of “stay quietly in the house” and raised an army to fight Ali.
Please tell me if you disagree with the facts stated by me.
Secondly, why do shias dislike the first 3 caliphs? To be honest even sunnis dont care much about the 3rd one, the real debate is about the first 2.
Lets start with the fact they abandoned the funeral of the Prophet (SAW) to fight for the seat of power.
How can we respect people who cared more about the caliphate then the Prophet’s (SAW) funeral.
Can you make an argument against the points raised by me without resorting to copy pasting from nasibi websites?
I am not impressed…The guy tried to make it look as if shia and sunni have some small difference of opinion…and opinions are not that important…
Difference of Opinion can make u kaffir too
A guy who has this opinion that Allah is Three is a not a muslim
A Guy who has this opinion that Mohammad ( PBUH) is not the Last prophet of God is not a muslim
A guy who believes that cow is god is not a muslim
now the jump…
Similarly…anybody who has this opinion that Allah shares power with Imaams and that Imaam is more powerful then the Prophets is certainly not a Muslim
Conclusions : Difference of Opinion on core foundations of Islam can make you a kafir and thats why I along like many other muslims don’t have very high opinions about Shia. Nevertheless we should try to educate shias
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^just for the sake of unity i m not gonna reply to ths madarssa educatd boy
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^ yeah and madrassa educated boy is very forebearing isnt it.
it is sadly the norm for the rare unity related threads to be hijacked by wingnuts of either side. that will be the case here, and in the broader Muslim world, regardless of well meaning efforts by individuals.
^just for the sake of unity i m not gonna reply to ths madarssa educatd boy
Its unrealistic to have an approach to unite Protestants and orthodox christians on matter of believes
Similarly
Shia sunni are two religious ideologies based on different foundations and will never unite.
But offcourse what we can strive for is " PEACEFUL COEXISTANCE"