Re: Shia And Sunni Muslims
And your point is? If you want to prove by these thise verse that this Quran is protected then you should know that number of Shia scholars have also relied on this very verse when they advanced their views about the completeness of Holy Qauran, but since you are highly infulenced by some of the Nasibi and munafiq sahabah, hence I know you will turn your eyes from those Shia statments.
Okay, i will be now talking in the language which you understand.
According to research of Ibn Abbas [ra] fifty verses have been added to the Quran of Uthman
Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti has recorded a tradition from Ibn Abbas[ra] wherein he says:
“The number of verses in Quran is 6616”
Tafseer Al Itqan fi Uloom al Quran, Volume 1 page 84
Just see how Nawasib toy with Quran. They are uncertain themselves about the number of verses in Quran; Ibn Abbas advanced a view, then Nasibi Ibn Kathir threw his own dice while Nasibi ulema of present era live in another dreamland. The Quran Muslims have in their hands contains 6666 verses that means the above cited Sunni tradition makes Ibn Abbas the refuter of 50 verses of Quran.
Hadrath Ayesha held the belief of Tahrif in Quran compiled by Uthman
We rely on the following esteemed books of Ahle Sunnah.
- Tafseer Itqan (Urdu), Volume 2 page 65
- Tafseer Dur e Manthur, Volume 5 page 220, verse of salutation
- Al Musahif by Imam Abu Bakar Sajistani, page 95, Zikr Mushaf e Ayesha
Allamah Jalaluddin Syuti records in Tafseer Itqan:
حدثنا حجاج عن ابن جريج اخبرني ابن ابي حميد عن حميدة بنت ابي يونس قالت: قرا على ابي وهوابن ثمانين سنة في مصحف عائشة: ان الله وملائكته يصلون على النبي يا ايها الذين امنوا صلوا عليه وسلموا تسليما وعلى الذين يصلون الصفوف الاول. قالت: قبل ان يغير عثمان المصاحف.
“Hameedah Bint Yunus narrates: “My father [Abi] who was 80 years old recited for me the verse of salutation from the Mushaf of Ayesha with the following words:
i.e Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect. And on those who came to the first lines of prayers”
This verse was in this very manner before Uthman had made changes in Quran.”
Tafseer Itqan (Urdu), Volume 2 page 65
The reference can also be read on the online version of Al-Itqan at
The verse which is found I the present Quran is in this manner:
[Yusufali 33:56] Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.
So we came to know that according to the Mushaf of Ayesha ***“And on those who came to the first lines of prayers” ***was the part of the verse [33:56] while Hameedah bin Yunus put a serious charge against Uthman by saying
This verse was in this very manner before Uthman had made changes in Quran.”
And, he is talking about “taweel” of Quran, the “meanings” that were changed by some of the Nasibi Sahabah, but those who are happy to have ties with ignorant Nawasib, they would always understand as if he was talking of the verses.
Sooper dooper formula of taqiyya…my sweet brother…tension nai lainai ka…kya … 
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Oho, to jub Shia statement day to woh Taqqiyah hai lakin aap kay apnay chahnay walon main say aik shaks ki itni oqaat thi kay bharay darbaar main is jahan ki sab say azeem tareen khatoon ko yeh kahday kay tumahra apnay walid kay tarkay main koi hisa nehen aur phir khulam khula jhoot bhi ghar lay kay unhoon nay mujh say kaha tha kay un ka koi tarka nehen hota. to woh jhoot jhoot nehen hai lakin Shia agar sach kahain to bhi aap kay lye taaqiyah hai. khair anyways, everybody can see how cunningly you just quoted my psot but had no courage whatsoever yo asnwer it, hence i am reapting it again:
*Agreed! But didnt your beloved Sahabah and Tabayeen know about this fact? Or they were non muslims according to you when they advanced their statements regarding changes, removals and additions of verses or increase in volume? *
*A question that I have been trying to as kthe Sunnies since years: *
“If Shia text showing tahreef in Quran cause you indigestion then why your eyes get closed and tounge get stitched when you see the open statements of Sahabah, Tabayeen and ulema which contain similar kind of views? Isnt it sheer hypocracy?”