Re: Shia And Sunni Muslims
Dont show yourself like an idiot.
“… Produce your proof if you are truthful.” (2:111) Otherwise no need to bring lame excuses.
Those are famed Sunni Tafaseer available online at various Suuni/Salafi libraries. If you have problem with that then its your personal ignorance, no Sunni and Shia have to do anything with your insane conslusion. Just do search on the internet by their names and you will come to know their importance in Sunni school.
And one of those tafsirs is Tafsir Mazhari which was not prepeared in Kufa rather in Jamia Binoria Deoband
LOL as this is one of the books they teach and sell:
http://www.binoria.org/book/bookslist.asp?start=41
Also this biggest Deobandi school relies on the very Tafseer for giving their Fatwas
http://www.binoria.org/qasbj/fatwadbview.asp?key=151
The fact remains there, Ibn Masud used to recite the name of Ali [as] in the verse.
Suhanallah, to reject two surahs of quran is perfect but to believe that some “explainatory text” was deleted by some of the Nasibi sahaba is an actof Kufr. Can you not turn off the switch of the Munafiqat legacy that you inherit just for few minutes?
And if still the point of Ayat Imamah or Wilayah is hitting your head then what about the ayat of Qunoot that your Salaf used to write in their Mushafs??? The favorite Imam of Nawasib as well of Salafies/Wahabies Ibn Taimiyah testified that Salaf used to deny & change verses of Quran and used to recite ayats of Qunoot.
*“And likewise some of the salaf denied words form the Quran such as the denail of some of them of the verse, ‘Have not yet those who believe known’ *13:31, and them saying that its ‘Has it not been made clear to those who believe’ and the denail of reading of the verse by others (of the salaf) ‘And your Lord has ordained (quthiyah) that you worship none but He’, and they said that its ‘And you Lord has advised (wassa)’ and some of them used to delete Al Mu’waithatayn from their copy of the Quran (mushaf) and other used to write a surah called Suratul Qunut and this is a known mistake that is known by consensus (Ijma), and the multiple successive transmission (matawatur). **
Majum’ Fatawa Volume 12 page 492
I dont have time to waste answering such pathetic sentences that you might have learn from the homo-- loving nasibi/wahabi madrasa.
What type of answer is this? Anyways, my point was that if difference of the number of letters/verses is causing indigestion into your stomach, then your fatwa of kufr also applies to the aforesaid Sunni personalities. Your Munafiqat legacy will not work here that you rule your opponents according to a law and rule your own people with different law.
my foolish friend…everyone has a its own way to count ayats…some consider the “waqfa” as end of ayat ..while other not…similarly…other thngs..one stop at certain place..while other continue to take it as full ayat…so everyone is different…whats so allergic about that…as all are near 6000…not 17000…my sweet brother…
O the follower of those who remained Jaahil to the half of their lives, when I was saying the same thing it caused indigestion to you, now you are adhering to the argument that I have been using. How pathetic. Anyways, I can see how impudently you just left the sunni traditions that says that half of the quran has been lost. And that was just few examples, according to Sunni Imams, Quran consisted of 40 Para (Sipara in urdu).
- Fatah al Bari, Volume 9 page 95 by Ibn Hajar Asqalani
- Umdatul Qari, Volume 9 page 345 by Badruddin Aini
- Irshad al Saari, Volume 7 page 482 by Shahabuddin Qastalani
Also according to Umar, 700369 letters are missing from the present Quran, which will in reutrn also take you nearly 17000 verses, (if you have fallen so deep in love with the 17000 figure).