General Kyani and Establishment is watching all this by 'wait and see policy'
They will remain neutral unless and until Government loose total control if situation becomes dangerous.
But certainly Army is not happy what Zardari is doing in Pakistan.They have shown thier power on issues of Interior Minstry taking control of ISI but at 3 am night on the same day , PM took back this order .Seondly when Zardari and PM agreed to send ISI Chief to India but Army and specially Gen.Kiyani refused it totally .He will not go to that extent of taking control but if situation becomes worse as it seems to be in near future then we can see 1993 scenario when General Kakar forced both Prime Minsiter Nawaz Sharif and President Ghulam Ishaaq to leave the office and new elections held and BB and Farooq Leghari came
Mid Term elections is the only option left if situation goes in critical way and Army will certainly not open fire as it refused to open fire in Lahore in 1977 on orders of Zulfiqar Bhutto and General Zia and 4 Brigadiers of Lahore resigned including Brig Niaz
If PPP is not allowed to complete it five year. We should start saying goodby to Pakistan. Many people already do not want Pakistan. Why we have to have CJ who punjab wants. Why their cannot be Sindhi or Aga Khani, or christian, Baluchi general in Pakistan Army.
We? Who are "we"? If you don't feel like at home in Pakistan feel free to leave anytime. :)
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But certainly Army is not happy what Zardari is doing in Pakistan.They have shown thier power on issues of Interior Minstry taking control of ISI but at 3 am night on the same day , PM took back this order ......
I have a feeling that Zardari has military backing. A lot of PPP leaders are not happy with a few actions by the president. The military does not want the old CJ back. Probably its another 'deal' of the president with the 'establishment'. Both want a puppet CJ in the SC.
If PPP is not allowed to complete it five year. We should start saying goodby to Pakistan. Many people already do not want Pakistan. Why we have to have CJ who punjab wants. Why their cannot be Sindhi or Aga Khani, or christian, Baluchi general in Pakistan Army.
We? Who are "we"? If you don't feel like at home in Pakistan feel free to leave anytime. :)
yaara, he is right, their is feeling building up in other provinces regarding Janab Ch. Iftikhar... i have many sindhi/balouchi friends, they have their own problems, none of the political parties from other provinces are supporting lairs marches.
**General Kyani and Establishment is watching all this by 'wait and see policy'
They will remain neutral unless and until Government loose total control if situation becomes dangerous.
But certainly Army is not happy what Zardari is doing in Pakistan.** They have shown thier power on issues of Interior Minstry taking control of ISI but at 3 am night on the same day , PM took back this order .Seondly when Zardari and PM agreed to send ISI Chief to India but Army and specially Gen.Kiyani refused it totally .He will not go to that extent of taking control but if situation becomes worse as it seems to be in near future then we can see 1993 scenario when General Kakar forced both Prime Minsiter Nawaz Sharif and President Ghulam Ishaaq to leave the office and new elections held and BB and Farooq Leghari came
Mid Term elections is the only option left if situation goes in critical way and Army will certainly not open fire as it refused to open fire in Lahore in 1977 on orders of Zulfiqar Bhutto and General Zia and 4 Brigadiers of Lahore resigned including Brig Niaz
A popular provincial government & a big political family is gone out .. and you are saying Establishment is just watching,.. is it a joke or what ?
Decision like these can't be happened without consulting real power brokers. I am all against mid-tern election they will destroy the foundations of Pakistan. Think before you speak, if one do wrong, you don't suppose to do bad in return.
Also, stop underestimating the power of Army, even they are stretch our but they do have contingency plans in place to take over in short notice !
A popular provincial government & a big political family is gone out .. and you are saying Establishment is just watching,.. is it a joke or what ?
Decision like these can't be happened without consulting real power brokers. I am all against mid-tern election they will destroy the foundations of Pakistan. Think before you speak, if one do wrong, you don't suppose to do bad in return.
Also, stop underestimating the power of Army, even they are stretch our but they do have contingency plans in place to take over in short notice !
lol you honestly think they're gone! Either you're too naive or you are trying to be funny? They swept Punjab with less than a week of campaigning in the last elections, not to mention being exiled for so long.
Since the PPP is playing these games, and destroyed the provincial govt, they shouldnt be worried about PML[N] and the opposition destroying them. This is the right of the opposition.
Yeah, last I heard the PML[Q] rogue parties were behind [N] even the Chaudhries seem to be lining up and realizing whose set to win the next elections.
General Kakar and Gen Musa where and are not Baluchi they are Punjabi who were in Baluch Regiment. Just liks Retd CJ Iftikar who is from Baluchistan High Court but is Punjabi. Their is simple solution to all the problem of Pakistan Kill Zardari, Jeay Punjab
I have a feeling that Zardari has military backing. A lot of PPP leaders are not happy with a few actions by the president. The military does not want the old CJ back. Probably its another 'deal' of the president with the 'establishment'. Both want a puppet CJ in the SC.
My feeling. Might be wrong.
There is a deal on the top, with the US as the guarantor, which fell in place when Beanzir was to be brought back with western assurances to work under Musharraf, because he was getting old unreliable and a basically a relic of the past, in other words a worn out puppet.
The rift between Zardari and Gillani will continue to grow, Gillani and his comrades didnt want the PML[N] running after their throats.
*lol you honestly think they're gone! Either you're too naive or you are trying to be funny? They swept Punjab with less than a week of campaigning in the last elections, not to mention being exiled for so long. *
Since the PPP is playing these games, and destroyed the provincial govt, they shouldnt be worried about PML[N] and the opposition destroying them. This is the right of the opposition.
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Watch the news channel:** Nothing is happening in Sindh, NWFP & Baluchistan. PML-N just become a punjabi party, period. Their is not even a single "Jalsa" or "Jaloos" anywhere except punjab, what it shows? Or you too naive ?
Muslims leagure on the whole can't do street politics, that's only done by PPP. PPP calcuations are base on this, they know PML-N can't take out people.
One more example: When ZAB was murdered by court trial, PPP was the largest party in whole Pakistan, they can't able to do anything. Same goes to current situation, nothing will happened, Nawaz future is totally finished. Shahbaz have to play on federal level now. That's it !
There is a deal on the top, with the US as the guarantor, which fell in place when Beanzir was to be brought back with western assurances to work under Musharraf, because he was getting old unreliable and a basically a relic of the past, in other words a worn out puppet.
The rift between Zardari and Gillani will continue to grow, Gillani and his comrades didnt want the PML[N] running after their throats.
After yesterday "waqiyaaat" you still believe on it? Gillani is just a "karayae ka tutoo" Nothing else... Wesey bi Gilani's are famous as "hukam maan-ney waley" in Pakistan politics..
I wrote in urdu, coz these words are better suited in urdu
Today N$ & S$ are disclosing about deal offers and swiss accounts and many other things. Why there lips were closed last many weeks and many years . If they knew about any crime and they hide , they should be panalised otherwise they are liers and they should be kept away from lawers.
This Provincial Party can do nothing exept demaging Pakistan.
Today N$ & S$ are disclosing about deal offers and swiss accounts and many other things. Why there lips were closed last many weeks and many years . If they knew about any crime and they hide , they should be panalised otherwise they are liers and they should be kept away from lawers.
This Provincial Party can do nothing exept demaging Pakistan.
As if Zardari doesn't have skeletons in his closet.
NRO was meant to cover every crook and thug's crimes including Altaf Hussain, Chaudhry Bros, Zardari, and deceased BB.
Get over your provincial phobia and look at the bigger picture.
If PPP is not allowed to complete it five year. We should start saying goodby to Pakistan. Many people already do not want Pakistan. Why we have to have CJ who punjab wants. Why their cannot be Sindhi or Aga Khani, or christian, Baluchi general in Pakistan Army.
After yesterday "waqiyaaat" you still believe on it? Gillani is just a "karayae ka tutoo" Nothing else... Wesey bi Gilani's are famous as "hukam maan-ney waley" in Pakistan politics..
I wrote in urdu, coz these words are better suited in urdu
Sometimes I wonder what happened to your grey matter, or have you been reading those Rs. 2 urdu akhbar because the english ones are too hard for you.
These events, or wait, 'waqayaat', clarify there is a rift between Gillani, who day before yesterday solemnly assured there will be no hinderences to the Punjab Govt, and today something totally different happened. Remember, when two members of the same party start giving out two totally different statements, things arent looking too united. PPP has alot of internal division, and Gillani is aligning himself more to the crowd that was faithful to the Bhuttos, which includes old stalwarts like Nahid Khan.
After yesterday "waqiyaaat" you still believe on it? Gillani is just a "karayae ka tutoo" Nothing else... Wesey bi Gilani's are famous as "hukam maan-ney waley" in Pakistan politics..
I wrote in urdu, coz these words are better suited in urdu
Gailani **the brave man who spent more than 4** years in prison only on charges of providing employment to the people and Zardari **who spent more than **10 **years in prison (Only one charge of being husband of Benazir Bhutto)and no one of them offered an agreement to the dictator for any term.
Please dont compare them to the **Lahori Thugs