Totally agree. Sadly, sharia doesn’t generate economic activity thus the Muslim World is million miles behind rest of the world. And, weird thing is that those who want to impose sharia on their people…if they get chance they will go to the west in a heart beat.
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Totally agree. Sadly, sharia doesn't generate economic activity thus the Muslim World is million miles behind rest of the world. And, weird thing is that those who want to impose sharia on their people...if they get chance they will go to the west in a heart beat.
Disagree, "sharia" doesn't stop us from any "industrial", "economic" activity, its us, our limitations, our interests, our greed. Look at most so called "Islamic" countries, tell me a single country where "sharia" is enforced? naam-nihaad sharia enforcers like Saudis don't count a bit. Almost all "Muslim" countries are ruled by "puppets" or "dictators" whose only interest is in their own economy/rule... so lets spare sharia from the blame.
Re: Why do US officials say such things in Pakistan?
Disagree, "sharia" doesn't stop us from any "industrial", "economic" activity, its us, our limitations, our interests, our greed. Look at most so called "Islamic" countries, tell me a single country where "sharia" is enforced? naam-nihaad sharia enforcers like Saudis don't count a bit. Almost all "Muslim" countries are ruled by "puppets" or "dictators" whose only interest is in their own economy/rule... so lets spare sharia from the blame.
Western counteries have progressed economically without it. You are talking too much theory
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Disagree, "sharia" doesn't stop us from any "industrial", "economic" activity, its us, our limitations, our interests, our greed. Look at most so called "Islamic" countries, tell me a single country where "sharia" is enforced? naam-nihaad sharia enforcers like Saudis don't count a bit. Almost all "Muslim" countries are ruled by "puppets" or "dictators" whose only interest is in their own economy/rule... so lets spare sharia from the blame.
Perhaps it would sound more appropriate if people were taught economic activity is not enslaved in being religious. When people are taught the proper perspective of religion they will understand the whole world operates on a lot more than then just religion. Universal and natural laws of Allah are not tied to religion but to a persons observation, research and intelligence.
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Western counteries have progressed economically without it. You are talking too much theory
The plight of muslim people comes from their ridiculous perception that Sharia is a magic wand, as long as you behave right things will fall in place without thinking about them.
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I think in sharia interest rates are not allowed to go beyond certain limit. This is not practically applicable in certain cases. By increasing rates, inflation is kept under control without which poor will be hardest hit.
Re: Why do US officials say such things in Pakistan?
Disagree, "sharia" doesn't stop us from any "industrial", "economic" activity, its us, our limitations, our interests, our greed. Look at most so called "Islamic" countries, tell me a single country where "sharia" is enforced? naam-nihaad sharia enforcers like Saudis don't count a bit. Almost all "Muslim" countries are ruled by "puppets" or "dictators" whose only interest is in their own economy/rule... so lets spare sharia from the blame.
Oh Captain Ji, modern day Sharia "followers" don't just stop industry, they simply destroy it.
If you start calling Muslim countries as "so-called", then we all have to go to Mars to find a bearded Muslim who is pro-industry as well.
Modern industry is the result of 24/7 innovation and open exchange of ideas at global scale. Sharia followers take themselves out of that cycle and go sleep in tents while camels and sheep graze outside.
The result is utter devastation or at least decline of modern industry. So you can't have it both ways!
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oh really? lets convert to Christianity and imitate their government system 
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Disagree, "sharia" doesn't stop us from any "industrial", "economic" activity, its us, our limitations, our interests, our greed. Look at most so called "Islamic" countries, tell me a single country where "sharia" is enforced? naam-nihaad sharia enforcers like Saudis don't count a bit. Almost all "Muslim" countries are ruled by "puppets" or "dictators" whose only interest is in their own economy/rule... so lets spare sharia from the blame.
yes but the problem your intrepretation of sharia will be different than other people
and thus we will waste debating which sharia is correct while other countries concentrate on economic and industralization
secular is the best way to go
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Sharia and economy are "oxymoron".
i.e. When Sharia comes, economy sez Allah-ee-Hafiz
Same way innovators and Mullahs are oxymorons or oxymora
i.e. When Mullahs come, they suicide-bomb scientists and innovators.
Suicider Mullah goes to hell, and innovators get 72 hooris.
The sooner we understand this the quicker we'll become a jihadi state. Mullahs have already understood it. Just a few Pakistanis are still not buying Sharia.
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If you are confusing “sharia” followers with extremists in Afghanistan/Iraq then yest what you saying makes sense otherwise there is no “correlation”.
The so called “progressive” regimes haven’t achieved much for Pakistan other than the latest dictatorship gaining few bucks in the bucket. What has been achieved for longer term solution? Judiciary is the only one being touted as one… which originated from 2002 judiciary suppression… what was it … LFO? Yeah, judiciary is free.
You are confused yet again. There are “muslim” countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait and there are “Muslim” countries like Indonesia and Malaysia… do you see difference? I do. Difference is not just “form” of government.
Ignorance exhibition yet again :k:
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Yes, secularism of Benazir Bhutto was awesome :k: I don’t know why I keep answering your posts again and again when you can’t show the “innovation” in your posts and continue with hate rants.
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yes but the problem your intrepretation of sharia will be different than other people
Are you suggesting what Taliban implemented in Afghan or what Saudis have in KSA are pure "sharia"?
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Sharia and economy are "oxymoron".
i.e. When Sharia comes, economy sez Allah-ee-Hafiz
This I do not agree with it. What I might agree with is that the forerunners for Sharia today are the most incompetant crew for progress and administrative planning. The model is in their mind is that the country and its foreign relations can be run like a tribe.
Same way innovators and Mullahs are oxymorons or oxymora
This I might agree with you if you narrow your definition of Mullah that does not include people who follow religion properly.
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If you are confusing "sharia" followers with extremists in Afghanistan/Iraq then yest what you saying makes sense otherwise there is no "correlation".
Chi chi kesi gandi batain kertay hain aap (calling Iranian Ayatullahs, and Mullah Omer as extremsit!) La hola wala quwwah.
Sharia in Iran has been implemented by "Ayat-Ullahs" who sit may be at less than 2 mm (i.e. millimeters) from God himself, and you call them extremists? Just ask Shia Muslims and they will tell you with all the details you want.
Same way Mullah Omer was declared Khalifah i.e. Vice-Allah (Allah ka naib) who was sent to earth to establish vice-squads. Again ask Wahabis and they will prove by Quranic ayahs that he brought Shariah.
May be the problem is that we are very romantic about bibi Sharia, however when she removes her hijab, we see the reality, and don't like it.
The so called "progressive" regimes haven't achieved much for Pakistan other than the latest dictatorship gaining few bucks in the bucket. What has been achieved for longer term solution?
That's a valid point. "progressive" regimes have consistently brought socialist mumbo jumbo in the name of Roti kpra makan. They all tried to build a "Welfare state" (Again Sharia connection should be visible to you).
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Disagree, "sharia" doesn't stop us from any "industrial", "economic" activity, its us, our limitations, our interests, our greed. Look at most so called "Islamic" countries, tell me a single country where "sharia" is enforced? naam-nihaad sharia enforcers like Saudis don't count a bit. Almost all "Muslim" countries are ruled by "puppets" or "dictators" whose only interest is in their own economy/rule... so lets spare sharia from the blame.
In that case maybe sharia is just not enforceable or compatible with the modern world. So, let us give it a rest and work with what we have, and forget about Utopian sharia.
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Are you suggesting what Taliban implemented in Afghan or what Saudis have in KSA are pure "sharia"?
no but they think it is
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The plight of muslim people comes from their ridiculous perception that Sharia is a magic wand, as long as you behave right things will fall in place without thinking about them.
Very well said. I'm going to use your quote, but I'll give you the credit for it.
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no but they think it is
so just because "they" think it is we should discarded any idea of "sharia" in our country? nice.
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In that case maybe sharia is just not enforceable or compatible with the modern world. So, let us give it a rest and work with what we have, and forget about Utopian sharia.
By "modern" if you mean situation of current state of Muslims then I might agree to an extent.