i have a question, i was browsing through all the web pages here at pak.org and i found this page about the model yasmeen ghauri (spelling) and it said the only woman pakistan is proud of.
i went 2 her page saw her pics and she looks liek a slut in those pics, every1 says these americans have no shame but wut about her???
pakistan is an islamic nation right?
so how cud we be proud of a girl who has no shame and parda wut so ever!!!
i thnkn we should be ashamed of her!!
and i know someone will say this i am not jealous of her i dont not need to look like no damn slut and expose my self like dat!!
plz clear this situation up 4 me!!!
oh yeah and all those paki movies actors and actresses they r no less then her either!!!
offdachain sis.......I totally agree with you. We Pakistanis shudn't be proud of sluts like her. But the sad thing is that most of so-called Muslims in Pakistan don't realize what their religion is all about and goes on to promote such crap. Yes. This is hypocrisey for sure.
This concludes that Pakistan is not an Islamic Nation but a so-called Islamic Nation.
Yes ur right ....i have too seen that site .....
ok so being a model is not bad......if done within the limits......however some of these new ones are taking off to extremes and proceeding to vulgarity......
that is not right......
we have had models in pakistan who have been glamerous, beautiful, enchanting and do it all within the limits.......
that true that yasmeen ghauri is showing to much of her......But she is not truely pakistani girl. If i am right, she is half german and pakistani. We should be happy that there no pure blood pakistani girl who is doing vulgarity modelling.
You guys are getting all worked up for no reason :)Yasmeen Ghauri is NOT a Pakistani.Her father was a Pakistani..however her Mother is German and Ghauri was born in Canada..so she's a Canadian citizen. She's never been to Pakistan and doesent consider herself to be a Pakistani.
Yasmeen ghauri is pretty..............
Since her actions seem to infuriate all you fine ppl so much , maybe its worth to reestablish some definitions..
How would you define SHAME as a phenomenon..where have we acquired it from ? How does it work for the betterment of mankind?
Is having more shame better? and less shame bad?
And what does being a Slut mean? Is it WRONG for some one who is physically gifted to apply those attributes to achieve her goals...Is it different in principle then an athelete using his skills to earn money..
We hear the word Judgmental and Intolerant
,,What do these terms mean?, and how are they applicable in the above assessment of Miss Ghauri.
oaky i did realize da i should not hae used da word slut bcuz that title defines actions physically done, but my major question wuz n=ot whether she is a pki or or my concern is dat if she isnt paki why should we be proud of her???
but thnx u all u helped me out c da thng wuz dat i wuz goin through those pages at school and my frnd who is aguy wuz siting by me and he started questioning me on da reason i dont wear revealing stuf cuz its considered a shame but she is considered pride.
i wuz embarresed b cuz of her nad sat wuz bothering me but thnx 4 ur help!!
Dear offdachain:
I do agree with you on your ideas but these are the Ideas of people who wants to stick with their own roots.
Yasmeen Ghouri is a Mentor for those who think that their own roots are nothing but a piece of carp. These peopel call it grown up culture.
I am really surperised the mental level of the following theme
"IF an athelet can make money using his skills then why can not a woman make money using her body"
After reading this statement, I am thrilled by the Intellectual level of these culturally and mentally grown up people.
Tomorrow we might see an other statement saying like this
"If an athelets can make money because of his skills then why can not a woman/men make money by selling his/her body"
After that all these people would be the honorable guests on day time talk shows proving the highly grown up people of a highly grown up society.
Msaqibj,
You seem offended, That wasnt the purpose of my post.
Personal growth requires for us to question the accepted norms, some of which are just acquired without ever thinking about them.
It would be helpful ,if you could comment on the questions I raised....
1- What is shame?
2-what makes a woman a slut?
3-what do thhe terms judgement and tolerance mean?
If you havnt thought about these issues, and had an acquired understanding that worked for you so far , that is fine too, but you need to say it like that...
In the end who knows what is right or wrong , we only strive to know more..
Finally a difference of opinion or is it a difference in value systems......
Definition of a slut ......
FOB: A model takes off her clothes to model
ABCD: Thats ok - she is not sleeping around.... - id she sleeps around then she is one .......
GORA: SO what if she sleeps around - she is cool - if she charge s money for sleeping around then she is one.... - even then If it does not bother me its ok .....
Whether she does all the aforementioned things or not is irrelevant - what is relevant is that our values differ a great deal..... Yasmeen Ghauri is a model - thats all nothing more nothing lesss........
Obviously, we come to these definitions from our background, so a definition of a slut would vary significantly when you are comparing east to west due to cultural as well as religious aspects.
In FOB culture, as you already know, a girl is considered "not-shareef" if she makes bold statements, hold conversations with everyone etc etc, so seeing a girl taking off her clothes would definitely amounts to being "slut" in those people's opinion.
Another example would be of "virginity". In our culture, it's a very big deal, but in Ghoras or Western culture, it is actually a curse.....
you guys have given this post post a whole new purpose. I have told you b4 the word slut wuz inappropriate i should not have said dat!!! so do not base ur argument on dat wrd its not suppose to be there.
as i said b4 all i wanted 2 know wuz why r ppl proud of not only her, but actresses and models who claim to be muslim in a muslim country and act like they have no religion. ANd when it does come to religion tehy wana be muslim.
i dont care if yasmmen is a paki or not
my ques wuz why r pakiz proud of such expicit ppl.
Well offdachain, I don't think that it is a Pakistani thing, there are some prople who want to be able to make a link with her because of whatever sick reason; and because her father was from Pakistan, this is what they have to hold on to...
you are right though, it is a shameful to honor those aspects of anyone, like their immodesty and lack of self worth...
Someone said she can show off her body, but if she is to be the pride of Pakistan, I have a full right to object...