Shame on Mirza Ghulam and his Followers

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Here are some indecent and immoral things done by Mirza ghulam, the so called prophet wana be of Ahmadies.

NYA…your a kinda snake which will die if i show you the bottom of my shoe, but other people need to know the true disgrace you and your mirza has brought to Islam.

Mirza Ghulam enjoyed having unrelated women serve him in seclusion, during the night hours. Although many of his own followers objected to this practice, this habit went on up to his dying days. We provide here a few references!!!

“My late wife… went to hazrat Promised Messiah at the age of fifteen in Dar-ul-Aman (Mirza’s room)… The Sire very much liked her service of massage his legs.”
(Al-Fadl, March 20, 1928, P. 6-7; by Ghulam Muhammad Qadiani)

"Question No. 6: (from Muhammad Hussain Saheb Qadiani)

Why does the pious Hazrat (Mirza) get his legs and arms massaged by unrelated stranger women???

Answer: (from Hakim Fazal Din Qadiani) He is an innocent prophet and caress with him is not prohibited; it is rather a source of suspiciousness and blessing’."
(Al-Hakm, April 17, 1907, P. 13)

Unknowingly, his own son rejected this practice of Mirza Ghulam as being contrary to the Shariat of Islam and not befitting a claimant to sainthood!!!

“This humble self submits that the Holy Prophet(SAW), as per Hadith, did not touch the womenfolk at the time of Baiat. The Holy Quran states that a woman should not display her embellishments to a stranger or unrelated person. This prohibition includes touching by hand, because womanly embellishment can be known by coming into contact with the body.”
(Seerat-ul-Mahdi, Vol. 3, P. 15; by Mirza Bashir Ahmad)

Adultery by the Prophet/Saint was Acceptable!!!

The following passage, read by the second Caliph of Qadianism (Ahmadiyyah), exemplifies the true legacy of Mirza Ghulam!!!

"In his Friday sermon, Mirza Mahmood read out a letter from a Lahori Mirzai. Its contents were as follows!!!>>>

'Hazrat Promised Messiah (Mirza) was a saint, Allah’s friend; and saints do commit adultery occasionally. Therefore, if he (Mirza) committed adultery now and then, what is the harm in that?

We have no objection against hazrat Promised Messiah (Mirza) because he committed adultery only at times. We have objection against the present Khalifa (Mirza Mahmood Ahmad) because he indulges in adulterous intercourse all the time.’

After reading the letter, Mirza Mahmood (the Khalifa in question) made the following statement!!!>>>

'From this objection, it appears that this person is of Paighami (Lahori) creed because our belief regarding the Promised Messiah is that he was Allah’s Prophet, but the Paighamis don’t believe in this. They consider him only to be a saint."
(Al-Fadl, August 31, 1938, P. 6; Friday Sermon by Mian Mahmud Ahmad;
As reported in Qadiyaniat-An Analytical Survey)

..and the disgrace continues…i know you will try to justify and defend your self by false and imeginary assumptions…but please dont bother I WILL NOT REPOND TO YOUR REPLY but I WILL KEEP POSTING THIS CONTINUATION OF DISGRACE and IMMORAL SHOW BY AHMADIES>>>you make sure you can handle the truth and BELIEVE IT…i am giving all the references you need. I HOPE YOU KNOW YOUR RELIGION!!!

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Jaawan

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Who Wrote Mirza's Books???????

During a sermon, Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani repeated what many who had heard Mirza Ghulam's speeches had suspected:

"Many people used to say that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not know even Urdu and someone else wrote the books which were attributed to him. The others held even a worse opinion about his writing potentialities. They believed that Shaikh Nuruddin was the person who wrote the books for him."
(Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani)
Indeed, Mirza Ghulam had an unusual rapport with Hakim Nuruddin and others in his organization. While, Mirza's knowledge of Islamic matters was elementary, his associates were traditionally schooled and enjoyed a broad understanding of Islam, as well the Arabic and Persian languages. Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, who had claimed to be a Prophet, often referred to Hakim Nuruddin as his master:

"My respected master, my brother Shaikh Hakim Nuruddin, may God keep you safe: your revered letter reached me. I wonder why the prescribed medicine did not do good to my master.
The Servant
Ghulam Ahmad"
(Maktoobat-e-Ahmadiyya, Vol. 5, P. 14, Letter No. 2;
As reported in Qadiyaniat-An Analytical Survey)

"To his holiness, the revered master, Shaikh Hakim Nuruddin, the trusted one - may God keep him safe.
The Servant
Ghulam Ahmad"
(Maktoobat-e-Ahmadiyya, Vol. 5, P. 14, Letter No. 14;
As reported in Qadiyaniat-An Analytical Survey)

Not to mention he died in a bathroom!!!

Jaawan

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**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!

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By now, the the true nature of Mirza Ghulam's claims should have become evident. An individual who possessed no more than an elementary knowledge of Islam, who was lax about adhering to the pillars of religion, and whose speeches and first books were confused and error ridden, could not have been the sole author of all the books attributed to him - particularly when his health and mental capacity had been reduced and he had shown dependency on others, even on elementary matters.

Does Qadiani (Ahmadi) leadership have any basis for claiming that Mirza Ghulam was a learned religious leader????

NYA and other maggots on this forum pretend you are not reading the above!!!

More to come mera bachey...I told you, you speak to much and i will expose the true nature of your believes!!!

Jaawan

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[This message has been edited by Jaawan* (edited September 01, 2000).]

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Mirza and His Family Servants of the Imperialism

Mirza Ghulam proudly wrote!!!

"My father was a well-known landlord in this country and he enjoyed great eminence in the Government's offices. He was a true devotee and well wisher of the British Government. In the mutiny of 1857 (the Muslim independence movement against colonialism is called 'mutiny' by Mirza), my father supplied fifty horses and riders to aid the British Government. For this favor to the Government, he was very popular among the officials."
(Izala-e-Auham, P. 58, footnote)

"The benevolent Government is aware of the fact that we are from among their servants, their sympathizers and well wishers. We have come to their aid with a firm mind in every hour of need. My father was held in close and high esteem by the Government; and our services to this Government held clear distinction. I do not think that the Government has forgotten these services of ours. My father, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza, son of Mirza Ata Muhammad Al-Qadian, was a great well wisher and friend of this government and enjoyed great respect from among them. Our loyalty has been proven beyond doubt. Rather our fidelity was proven among the people and became clear to the government officials. The Government may confirm this from the officers who came to this side and lived among us; so that they may tell what sort of life we lived, and how faithful we have been in serving their Government."
(Noor-ul-Haq, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 8, P. 36-37; Noor-ul-Haq, Vol. 1, P. 27-28)

"I come from a family which is out and out loyal to this government. My father, Mir Ghulam Murtaza, who was considered its well-wisher, used to be granted a chair in the Governor's Darbar (cabinet) and has been mentioned by Mr. Griffin in his 'History of the Princes of Punjab'. In 1857, he helped the British government beyond his means, that is he procured fifty (50) cavaliers and horses right during the time of the mutiny. He was considered by the government to be its loyal supporter and well-wisher. A number of testimonials of appreciation received by him from the officers have unfortunately been lost. Copies of three of them, however, which had been published a long time ago, are reproduced in the margin (in English). Then, after the death of my grandfather, my elder brother Mirza Ghulam Qadir remained occupied with service to the government and when the evil-doers encountered the forces of the British government on the highway of Tanmmun, he participated in the battle on the side of the British Government (under General Nicholson he killed several freedom fighters). At the time of the death of my father and brother, I was sitting in the sidelines; but, since then, I have been helping the British for seventeen years with my pen."
(Kitab-ul-Barriah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 13, P. 4, 5, 6, 7;
Shahadat-ul-Quran, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 6, P. 385-387;
Ishtihar Wajib al-Izhar, Sept. 20, 1897, P. 3-7; appended with Kitab-ul-Barriah)

"I am scion of a family which the English Government acknowledges to be faithful to it. British officers have also admitted that my father and my people are amongst those who served the Government in all sincerity and with heart and soul. I can not find the words to express my homage and gratitude to the beneficent Government on account of the peace and composure which we have found as subjects of the Government. For this reason, we - myself, my father and my brother - have girded up our loins that we will exhibit the favors and advantages of this Government, make obedience to it incumbent on the people and embed it in their hearts."
(Tabligh-e-Risalat, Vol. 7, P. 8-9)
It is unfortunate to see how Mirza Ghulam proudly boasted about his father and brother having fought on the side of the British and against the Muslims. Nevertheless, in these very brief passages, Mirza expresses his immense gratefulness for all the benefits his family has enjoyed under British rule and indicates to have no goal but to somehow convince Muslims to become obedient and subservient to the British Imperialism!!!

No wonder they give you "no question asked" Visa to Canada, UK, USA, because you ahmadies kiss goora(white) ass too much!!!

SHame on you.

Jaawan

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**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!

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He was apparently ignorant of the following verses of the Holy Quran!!!

O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.
(The Holy Quran, Al-e-Im,ran, 3:118)

O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).
(The Holy Quran, Al-Maeda, 5:57)

Atleast i am NOT making this up, all of the refferences are there, the stuff he wrote and his own books, with the help of other humans off course. So one can not deny this immoral and indecent mans ignorency and stupidity.

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Jaawan

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