Re: Shajra-e-mal`oona
Salaams Zerokhan
I think we are going off tangent in this thread. The topic is to do with** Shajr-e-maloona**.
I have proved it with references that Shajr-e-maloona refers to Tree of Zaqqum.
The point made by the original poster is mere speculation and conjecture because he is not backing it up with any references to earlier sources to back up his claim.
I guess you are going to applaud him for using his brain. But what about asking him for source of his knowledge?
If there is no source then do you agree that all that he said was just speculation and nothing more nothing less.
You must know that in Islam there is no scope for making speculations and any claim made should refer to the Quran and the Prophet (saw). Do you agree?
and now coz none of them and Prophet (pbuh) is actively here and every thng comes thru different sources thus i use quran, hadith, and brain................. does not follow blindly.........................
Now I challenge you to prove from “quran, hadith, and (using your ) brain” that Shajr-e-maloona does not refer to Tree of Zaqqum
I am not against using one’s brain but you must know that before one uses his brain to make a statement he or she must have all the facts or must have recognised knowledge about the subject. Otherwise all the statements made are nothing but speculation.
What about Haz Abdullah bin Hudhafah bin Qays bin `Adi (ra)............. being sahabi.................... would u follow him or not...............and he was refused to be followed/obeyed even he was appoimted as a leader for rest of the sahaba with him.................... 1) rest of the sahaba refused to obey him, thus Prophet (pbuh) and in turn Allah (swt)............ blindly and were wrong 2) they did not follow him but used their brain and heart and were right 3) He ordered some thing blindly and was wrong 4) he ordered some thing thoughtfully but was right Just my brother come up with the answer to this???????????????? and u will find out the usage and importance of brain............or yataafakaroon..............
Individually any Shahabi can make a mistake, collectively they cannot. That’s why Sunni’s follow Ijma Sahabah and not act of one individual Sahabi.
You should know when a Believer makes an unintentional mistake even though he had used all his knowledge and mental faculties to derive a solution believing it to be correct will be reward one sawab. And the one who gets it right will be rewarded tenfold.
Now try to attempt to meet my challenge: (Please don’t try to dodge it.)
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Now I challenge you to prove from “quran, hadith, and (using your ) brain” that Shajr-e-maloona does not refer to Tree of Zaqqum
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PS. Honestly, I did use my brain to write up this post :D