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^ how do you know that? Not disputing, just want to know why you think so. This is a most serious problem since what you are saying is that Pakistani population in general is getting radicalized and fundamental, not just some fringe groups.
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Another disgusting act. When the people of Pakistan learn killing people doesn't solve the underlying issues or problems.
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This is most condemnable, and a crime. The perpetrators needs to be punished and made an example that people will refer to...
Keeping that in mind, and the RD arrest, who btw is revealed to have been in contact with TTP, makes this whole thing very suspecious. Mr. Bhatti may just have become victim of circumstances surrounding the events unfolding. Admittance of TTP for this cowardly act, is another testament to why RD is a bigger criminal because he may very well have been a financing/coordinating/logistical tenacle of TTP for all these years. This makes his release that much more difficult because of his associations with TTP.
TTP tried to cause diversions between Sunnis/Shia sects by bombing their significant places; it didn't work. Tried to bomb army envoys and pubic places to cause diversions between the public and armed forces; it didn't work.
Now due to the arrest of their compadre RD, they've assassinated Mr. Bhatti to cause rifts between muslims and christians of Pakistan; I hope it will NOT work either. Everyone knows TTP for the goons they really are.
Pakistan's security apparatus needs to work quickly to crush TTP's support internally and externally. Arrest and serve justice on a priority basis. There needs to be a sense of justice for all citizens of Pakistan. These target killings will become the cause for a weaker Pakistan...
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only solution is to teach kids from day-1 that there is nothing in religion Islam or God Allah that says non-Muslims are any different. Unless kids are so fortified from age one, some of them will fall for the fiery speeches of hatred delivered in the name of religion by people called religious leaders
La parisinne ALLAH is the biggest reality and Islam is every thing for us and Non Muslims deny the biggest reality of the worl and to establish the system of Islam is duty of every Muslims butt we cant force others to accpet Islam
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Minorities have no business in Islamic republic. Hanoods, yahoods and Isaais should either get out or not complain when they get butchered in Pakistan. Pakistan has no place for non-muslims.
Indians should be the last people to lecture anyone on butchering minorities. Btw, things must be pretty boring on BR that you're showing up here to meet your monthly quota of Pakistan bashing.
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sharaspilla minorites have many right under Islamic state they are free to make their place of worship practice their religion and to protect them is the responsibility of ISlamic state butt yes they cant become leader or Military chief butt they should be provided with goo health and education facilities
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All enemies are taking opportunity.
Raw,Mosad and CIA are involved.
Incapable people like Rahman Malik are on top.
Great Jamshed Dasti has come out.
http://dawn.com/2011/03/04/rehman-malik-should-resign-says-ppp%e2%80%99s-dasti.html
He reached to final place.
Slain minister laid to rest amid tears
http://old.thenews.com.pk/updates_pics/3-4-2011_11755_l_u.jpg
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Things like that can only happen in Pakistan again and again
I've traveled 5 times to Pakistan in the last 10 years and my perception (which of course u may differ with) is that a steady radicalization of the common man is taking place ..... something that is visible in PPLz dealing/interacting with each other in every walk of life on daily basis
Things r certainly getting worse and it would be quite wrong to blame it all on radicalization alone ..... there r other factors which r contributing and this trend only ads fuel to the whole scenario
I'm telling from experience on those 5 travels (last one in June 2010) to Pakistan ..... i traveled a lot domestically and had the chance to interact with a lot of PPL from different walk of life with very low to very high standards of Life (or in other words, From Very Poor to Very Rich)
It's like if ur outlook is kinda Islamic (Beard, high Shalwar) u pass a lot of hurdles easier whereas u also may simply frighten PPL off even if it's not ur intention to do so
Just my observation and Perception
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La parisinne ALLAH is the biggest reality and Islam is every thing for us and Non Muslims deny the biggest reality of the worl and to establish the system of Islam is duty of every Muslims butt we cant force others to accpet Islam
Let a non-believer deny the "biggest reality in the world", but as long as your faith is intact there should not be a problem, right ? Definitely not a problem big enough to kill someone. Or are you saying that a non-believer denying something makes you question your faith ?
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I am very sure that till people like most of you here educated and grown up in west don't take the matters in their hands nothing can happen.
Because we are trapped in series of bad things. We can not come out ourselves.
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I am very sure that till people like most of you here educated and grown up in west don't take the matters in their hands nothing can happen. Because we are trapped in series of bad things. We can not come out ourselves.
Pasha Sahib people living in West are cowards (I include myself too). We are paper tigers. People left the country because they cound not change the system hence ran away from the problems. Split families have created a lots of tention and un-happiness. I always think of my near and dear ones living there and be happy when there is no news from Pakistan, because no news is always good news.
It is people who live in Pakistan can make the real difference if they live honest and simple lives.
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Pasha Sahib people living in West are cowards (I include myself too). We are paper tigers. People left the country because they cound not change the system hence ran away from the problems. Split families have created a lots of tention and un-happiness. I always think of my near and dear ones living there and be happy when there is no news from Pakistan, because no news is always good news.
It is people who live in Pakistan can make the real difference if they live honest and simple lives.
Why would anyone want to stay in Pakistan? 90 percent of the people would pack up and leave at the first opportunity, and gladly join every other supposed coward living outside of Pak.
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Why would anyone want to stay in Pakistan? 90 percent of the people would pack up and leave at the first opportunity, and gladly join every other supposed coward living outside of Pak.
Med this proves what hijra means hijras first thing they do is they try to escape trouble shows gutt and try to bring a change
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Med this proves what hijra means hijras first thing they do is they try to escape trouble shows gutt and try to bring a change
Then 90 percent of Pakistanis are Hijras by your definition... :)
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RIP.
Second real Shaheed this year, salman taseer being the first one and shahbaz bhatti the second one.
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^^ It really offends me when someone call these use-less politicians who are victim of their own incompatibility Shaheed...
Taseer & Bhatti were part of Govt., they were in power corridors, like many others, enjoyed all the facilities in the name of Public vote and delivered next to nothing in return....
It is not limited to these two... because of these two and many others in power, we the common people are living in fear, they have allowed Terrorists to enter the country un-checked they have made our life miserable to the point where we are left with little options to survive, either die by a bullet or bomb and 2nd option more horrific, starve to death...
So not by any mean these dead politicians are Shaheed, In Karachi, 10s are killed everyday, and the day one of the root cause behind these killing i.e. a politician gets killed, that day, everyone would be saying oh so bad... he is Shaheed...
Shaheed is great status, atleast the corrupt political elite do not deserve that..
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^^ Word shaheed is very cheaply thrown around in pakistan. everyone who got killed becomes a shaheed. be it mqm guys, jiyalas, anp guys etc who died in 'targatted killing' in karachi or bibi who got killed in a campaign.
but taseer and bhatti knew the risks and died for taking a stand. they died for an ideology which would not have given them any political milage. thats why i called them a 'real shaheed'.
btw i think now sherry rahman should be very very careful.
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^^ I really wish they had taken stand on the said Issue, the one who took stand and worked to solve it is Sherry Rehman, the lady's effort was sabotaged by Taseer like people trying to take credit of somebody's work and/or trying to undermine the provincial govt...
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They may have not taken a final stand that solved the problem but they did whatever their capacity was were very vocal about it.
sherry has taken an ideological stand but there are not many takers of her stand in the power circles.
Sherry in an ideal democracy would be a revolutionary leader, but in pakistan she has to wait a little longer to get recoganized.
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Sherry in an ideal democracy would be a revolutionary leader, but in pakistan she has to wait a little longer to get recoganized.
Agree to this..
2ndly, Sherry took the issue to seriously and instead of calling names and making press appearances, she did what suppose to be done.. had not Taseer and other jumped into the equation ( for cheap publicity i must say), we might had a good debate and resolution on the issue from the right centers i.e. Parliament......