Shahbaz Bhatti shot dead

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Oh i see

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inna lilahe wa inna ilahe rajaoon means "Surely we belong to Allah and to Him shall we return" and that applies to all human beings regardless of their religion.

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CORRECT...han marne ke ba'd Ghair Muslim ko jannat kii du'aa yaa jahannam kii bad-du'aa denaa munaasib nahiiN...uskaa mo'aamila Allah ke Huzoor hai is liye.**

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thanks kkf but i'll ask something via pm later...warna yeh thread off topic hojaye gi.

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blessed I know the meaning and aslo i know that All humans have to go to ALLAH butt still it is not allowed because in Arabic some prays doesnt exactly mean the same it also can mean some other things such as when we say ALHUMDULILAH its exact meaning is ALL PRAISE TO ALLAH or ALL PRAISE IS FOR ALLAH butt we say it to thanks ALLAH

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ok thats fine i respect your opinion/what ever you want to call it. i wont say anything more otherwise this will go on and on. :)

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blessed I will only say ask some Ulemas if you dont belive me

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We are killing people left, right and center and you are concerned about what to say when a non-muslim dies!!! tragic.

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May his soul Rest In Peace.

I was stumbled to hear this news last night.

I do not know what prompted Mr.Bhatti to drop his security layer to go and visit his mother.I do not know what prompted the Government to disregard his security threats.Even if he wanted to avoid a security,it was the duty of the Government to provide him with one.It should have been a covreted one atleast.

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well said.

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Kakaball as a Muslim Islam is every thing for me so it concerns me when something is wrongley quoted or said about Islam second things is killing should also stop butt should also control there tounges

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Pakistan murder: Shahbaz Bhatti’s ‘goodbye’ call

Liberals in Pakistan are finding it ever harder to speak out
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                   A  day after the assassination of Pakistani Minority Affairs Minister  Shahbaz Bhatti, the BBC's Orla Guerin describes a frightened phone call  he made to the BBC just before his death and examines the growing  climate of fear enveloping opponents of the country's controversial  blasphemy laws.
 It was a troubling phone call and it came late in the evening. 
 The man on the line had been told by security officials of a  plot of kill him. He wanted more protection but wasn't getting it. He  sounded anxious and alone, though he had a seat at the cabinet table.
 The call was from Shahbaz Bhatti, Pakistan's Minister for  Minority Affairs, the only Christian member of the Cabinet, now silenced  forever by the Taliban. His killing was a death foretold by many, most  of all Bhatti himself.
 When he called that night, he was concerned about a warning from the security agencies. 
 "They say there's a terrorist plot to assassinate me," he  said. "They've told me to be careful, but didn't tell me anything else. I  haven't been given any extra security. It's just the same as it has  been since I became a minister."

Shahbaz Bhatti said he would rather die for his principles than compromise
Though his voice sounded weary, the minister’s commitment was unwavering. “I have struggled for a long time for justice and equality,” he said.
“If I change my stance today, who will speak out? I am mindful that I can be assassinated any time, but I want to live in history as a courageous man.”
After we ended our conversation, I could not escape the feeling that the minister had called to say goodbye.
Shahbaz Bhatti knew his days were numbered and he knew why - because of his outspoken criticism of Pakistan’s controversial blasphemy laws, and his calls for reform.
Under the statutes, anyone found guilty of insulting Islam can be sentenced to death. Convictions can be based on no more than hearsay.
Human rights workers say the laws are often used to settle scores and to persecute minorities, though most of those charged are Muslim.
Last man standing Recent casualties of the laws include a 17-year-old student accused of blaspheming in an answer on an exam paper, and a doctor who threw out a business card from a salesman named Mohammed.
The minister stated repeatedly that the laws were being used to victimise the innocent. He refused to back down, even after he was threatened with beheading.
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The time has come for the federal and provincial governments to speak out, and take a strong stand against these murders to save the very essence of Pakistan”
End Quote Farahnaz Ispahani Aide to President Zardari
His cause was shared by Punjab Governor Salman Taseer, who paid with his life in January when he was assassinated by one of his own bodyguards.
From then on, Shahbaz Bhatti was the last man standing - a lonely voice, unheeded even by his government.
On Wednesday morning, as he set out for a cabinet meeting, the Taliban caught up with him.
Hours after they riddled his body with bullets, we received a message from the minister, as if from the grave. He had recorded a statement in December, and asked that it be sent to the BBC in the event of his death.
“I am living for my community, and for suffering people,” he said, gazing directly at the camera, “and I will die to defend their rights. I prefer to die for my principles and for the justice of my community rather than to compromise.”
But the assassins who shot him almost 30 times left a message of their own - in leaflets scattered at the scene, signed in the name of al-Qaeda and the Punjabi Taliban. They promised a death sentence to anyone following in the minister’s footsteps.
“With the blessing of Allah, the mujahideen will send each of you to hell,” it said.
Shahbaz Bhatti’s bid to reform the laws looks certain to die with him. Pakistan’s government was already in full retreat from any attempt at examining the statutes, after noisy protests from the religious right.
A parliamentarian from the governing PPP party, Sherry Rehman, had to drop her reform bill, because her party won’t back it. She’s all but vanished from view, due to concerns for her safety.
There’s now a fight for the soul of Pakistan.

Mr Bhatti’s assassins left messages at the scene of his murder, promising death to anyone who followed his example
Emboldened Islamists It’s not a battle of liberals versus conservatives, according to political commentator Mosharraf Zaidi, but of sane versus insane.
An aide to Pakistan’s President, Asif Ali Zardari, goes further, warning of “a concerted campaign to slaughter every liberal in the country”.
“The time has come for the federal and provincial governments to speak out,” said the aide, Farahnaz Ispahani, “and take a strong stand against these murders to save the very essence of Pakistan.”
But that seems unlikely. Critics say the state’s response to growing religious extremism has been a deadly combination of silence and appeasement.
Now an emboldened Islamic movement is going after Pakistan’s remaining liberals, according to author Aatish Taseer, one of the sons of the murdered governor.
“I think it’s starting to seem like part of a systematic plan to silence dissent in Pakistan, to silence liberal voices and it’s working,” he said.
“It’s been very effective. It takes a few people who are willing to instil fear in society, and it takes the silence of people who should have been speaking out.”
Now Pakistan has been robbed of both a minister and a governor who dared to speak out for the voiceless, and take on the hardliners.
The fear is that the extremists are winning, by literally killing off debate.

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Thats the sad part, killing a guy just for his belief? I mean fine if that guy believes that he should under no circumstance let you live.... then it's simply you and him Mano Mano... but here we see bullets instead of ballots.

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only solution is to teach kids from day-1 that there is nothing in religion Islam or God Allah that says non-Muslims are any different. Unless kids are so fortified from age one, some of them will fall for the fiery speeches of hatred delivered in the name of religion by people called religious leaders

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Even then sad thing is try as you might, you cannot garuntee your children wont pick up evil ways… :frowning:

Allah hidayat dien… :bummer:

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Killing someone if their belief is different from yours, only reflects your insecurity about your own belief. What a bunch of barbarians !!

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Agreed... but dont insult barbarians these lame people are far worse than barbarians... most barbarians are actually very friendly. :)

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Point taken :)

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Minorities have no business in Islamic republic. Hanoods, yahoods and Isaais should either get out or not complain when they get butchered in Pakistan. Pakistan has no place for non-muslims.

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Except that most Pakistanis do not consider what happened as evil.