Re: Shab-e-Barat...a limited phenomenon?
I think we're getting too literal with what the brother said. I'm sure his intention was not what we're implying.
Re: Shab-e-Barat...a limited phenomenon?
hazaaroN bid'aat meN se ek bid'a yeh bhii hai...afsos k aajkal ham musalmaan faraa'iz se kotaahii aur fuzooliyaat meN be_'etinaaii barat.te haiN...Allah ham sab ko hidaayat de k hameN deen-e-asl, deen-e-Mustafvii aur siraat ul mulstaqeem par chalne kii taufeeq 'ataa farmaaye...aameen
I pray 5 times a day so hopefully I'm not missing my faraidh. In fact, opportunities like this blessed night are an excuse to increase our Ibadah. And there is a basis for it as Saleem posted the ahadith. All great scholars have been celebrating this night with Ibadah since centuries.
Instead of spending my time on Internet I'd be remembering Allah (SWT) inshaAllah.
Re: Shab-e-Barat...a limited phenomenon?
Is this the same standard that we apply to everything in the religion? In regards to hadiths whether weak or sound, proven to be sound or untraceable?
Peace teggy
Weak hadith are not the same as fabricated hadith. The idea that something is called an innovation because it does not exist in a Sahih hadith is logically false. As long as some basis exists for it then it cannot be an innovation. It is done however through a sense of being sure, but at the price of potentially losing out in potential benefits. This strictness in interpretation is found only in the Hanbali school and the reason why they seem to be more prevalent and apparent than the other opinions is because the finances generated by the Oil and Gas industry are used to propagate the opinions of the Hanbali - in such a manner that it makes it seem as the others are wrong.
The practice of Mid-Sha'ban is not contradicted by the Sunnah and there are hadith that relate to its benefit. These hadith are not fabricated according to classification of hadith. We should apply these standards everywhere in our religion.
I was going to point to the ahadith but brother Sa1eem has already done it ... I was a bit slow.
Re: Shab-e-Barat...a limited phenomenon?
No doubt in the validity of the Month's blessings before the most blessed of months begins. No doubt in fasting mid-shaban either.
Question pertains particularly to the 'theme' of Shab-e-Barat, and I mentioned limited phenomenon in the title, as well as the first post because I can only speak on what I have personally witnessed first-hand in Pakistan. The fireworks, etc. Where's the validity of this celebration on the eve? Who else celebrated it like that, and set the precedence for it to be followed? (As mentioned by the brother before, the practices have a foundation that they're built on...) Unless it's a cultural/traditional mish-mash, then that's understandable too because some things run parallel to religion but belong to Culture/Tradition in many countries.
So what is it exactly? Religion, or culture, or both?
Re: Shab-e-Barat...a limited phenomenon?
No doubt in the validity of the Month's blessings before the most blessed of months begins. No doubt in fasting mid-shaban either.
Question pertains particularly to the 'theme' of Shab-e-Barat, and I mentioned limited phenomenon in the title, as well as the first post because I can only speak on what I have personally witnessed first-hand in Pakistan. The fireworks, etc. Where's the validity of this celebration on the eve? Who else celebrated it like that, and set the precedence for it to be followed? (As mentioned by the brother before, the practices have a foundation that they're built on...) Unless it's a cultural/traditional mish-mash, then that's understandable too because some things run parallel to religion but belong to Culture/Tradition in many countries.
So what is it exactly? Religion, or culture, or both?
Peace teggy bro
Celebration is an odd thing ... It has a flavour of artistic license about it ... There is not a single nation in the world that celebrate everything we do in the same way ... And mostly they stem from a customisation or Islamisation of existing practices.
Just look at how Eid is celebrated throughout the world ... When the Chinese Muslims light the lanterns in their streets ... No doubt some "hard liner" interpretators will say "lighting lanterns comes from Buddhist traditions ... And there is nothing in Islam about this" ... This kind of restriction on expression of culture in the name of following religion "literalistically" is the fault that the zealots made ... At the time of Christ (AS) ...
So if there are some Pakistani norms taking place ... It is more about the people than it is about the event itself. Some practices are problematic for they become annoyances, dangerous, or lose the essence of the spirit of the event ... Others don't ... Other practices enhance them
Re: Shab-e-Barat...a limited phenomenon?
lol @ Saleem and his back n forth.
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Thanks for that topic, I find it very interesting.