Sexual Grooming and Pakistani Youths

Sexual Grooming and Pakistani Youths

Jack Straw, the justice secretary in the former British government, sparked controversy when he accused young men of Pakistani origin in Britain as regarding vulnerable native girls as “easy meat” for sexual abuse. The Blackburn MP and one of the Labor Party’s most prominent figures challenged the Pakistani community in the United Kingdom to tackle a problem that has resulted in “Pakistani heritage men thinking it is OK to target native girls in this way”.

Mr. Straw made his remarks after two Asian men were jailed indefinitely in Nottingham for a series of rapes and sexual attacks on vulnerable girls they had picked up on the streets.

Straw seems to have a campaign to demonise and stereotype Muslims. If he was honestly tackling a problem he would have done it in a different way.

Why it is a surprise that white woman are easier to get into bed than a Pakistani women and not to mention we are in the UK which happens to be a mainly white population.

I believe he concerned about the number of white female converts to Islam because some of them see the real Islam through a Pakistani brother.

A nursery worker had been arrested for sexually abusing children aged 2-3 at a nursery. Sick, but Jack Straw does not say that there is a large number of paedo’s still around, or that the church is full of paedo priests. Why the hypocrisy?

The latest year, for which we have data, Lancashire police arrested 627 people for sexual offences. 0.3% of these were Pakistanis. That’s two people. 85.5% were white British. In Lancashire, there are 1,296,900 white Brits and 45,000 Pakistanis. This means that 4.163 per 10,000 white Brits were arrested for a sex crime, compared to 0.44 Pakistanis

If you look at my religion sex outside marriage, drink and drugs are all a sin and are forbidden. Also the third biggest sin in Islam is adultery, which these men also committed. They aren’t very good Muslims are they? The actions they committed are all against Islam and the punishment under Sharia would be…I think you all know!!!

A major newspaper investigation linked some British Pakistani youths with the sexual exploitation of underage native girls in towns across North and Midland. Some of them are convicted of grooming underage native girls for sex because they think that these girls have fewer morals and are less valuable than Muslim girls. Now decent Pakistani men will be looked at as potential child abusers but last year 80% of child abusers were native Brits.

These Pakistani youths are British born and educated in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They are the product of western education system which makes a man stupid, selfish and corrupt. They have been mis-educated and de-educated and they do not know where they belong. They suffer from identity crises. They speak English in local accents. They are unable to speak, read and write Urdu language. They find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Such individuals are fully assimilated into British culture. What do you expect from such individuals? Instead of sending them to prison, they should be included in New Year Honour List. In the past a Muslim girl was awarded MBE for running way from her parents. Now there are round about 6000 runaway Muslim girls in the custody of LAs. They should also be included in the Honour List. Thanks to the British education system.

Most teenage girls, but especially the girls who hang around the streets have no roots, low self esteem etc and so is easy prey for any group - any group - who cares to seduce them. Lots of “KID’s” around 12 to 14 start partying! (drinking, doing drugs & having sex). This was happening in the 60s & 70s, so I am sure it’s worse now. The big issue is, where the PARENTS are. British parents already lost the battle to have any control over their children.

Britain’s so brilliant Education Ministry had embarked on teaching sex to 5 year olds from last year. Britain already has health and social services, including counseling for children who are sexually active. One initiative has distributed contraceptives to girls as young as 11. Tony Blair said it is the right thing to do– handing free contraceptives to British girls. The Institute for Public Policy Research found that a major reason for Britain’s thug generation was the collapse of British family life. Evidence also showed that British adults are afraid to control their drunk, high, fornicating and violent teens. The adults also lagged behind their European peers in confronting their teenagers about “antisocial” behavior.

The native Brits have double standards and are hypocrites; they don’t mention the fact that the majority of men who go to countries in East Asia looking for under aged sex are natives European men.

This is sickening. It’s no wonder Great Britain is in such a bad shape. Ten years old British girls are haveing babies out of wedlock. They are not allowed to get married but are allowed to have babies. Teenage pregnancy rate in Great Britain is the highest in Western Europe. It is a civilised country and Yemen is a backward country because it allowes young girls to get married.

Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling. These are the reasons why majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Only less than 5% attend Muslim schools and more than 95% keep on attending state and church schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
Iftikhar Ahmad
London School of Islamics Trust

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The following thread had discussed this issue: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/all-views/475878-straw-in-row-over-pakistani-men-sex-abuse-comments.html

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Wow..

Considering you're somone who supposedly runs a school the way you continuously LIE about things is shocking.. and regarding Muslim girls who run away, why do u think they do that? For fun?? Should they be sent back to their parents for a good beating or made to go thru the forced marriages or other cr*p or abuse they are often running away from??

These young guys could speak Urdu, many of them were also married off to girls from Pakistan so not exactly 'cut off from their culture.' Would u prefer them to speak English with a Pakistani accent lol.. Being too assimilated into British culture we should expect these men to become rapists.. brilliant..

Honestly, the things I have read on your website as well as the views you're spreading on any desi forum you find are disturbing.. And stop pretending you're all about religion when really it's all Pakistani culture masquerading as Islam..

You've said in the past you would like EVERY young British born Pakistani married to a partner from 'back home'.. I think that sums up what you're about perfectly..

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Another LIE from Iftikhar:

'Aims of The London School of Islamics Trust **... to unite Muslim, Jewish, Christian and Hindu children in the country's first multi-faith secondary school'**

yet in his own words:

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Wow Iftikar I feel your pain, I have the solution to all of your problems, pack your bags, get on a plane and never come back!

I hate this idiot, he is on nearly every chat forum on the net, sprouting his same old rhetoric.

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I think the gist of what IftikharA is trying to say is that you can't blame Pakistani culture for the actions of these perpetrators. These guys went through the same education system and upbringing as their white counterparts and having a Pakistani heritage is not grounds for laying the blame on Pakistani culture.

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Yeah, I've seen this guy on every Muslim-fied forum I'm on. It's ridiculous.

/facepalm

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I’ve never seen him before :konfused:

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He is expressing his views, you guys are free to express yours.

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And on a whole bunch of non muslims forums too!

What iftikar does not realise is that he does more harm then good for muslims.
I was on an english chat forum some years ago and he posted one of elitist bile-ridden rants, do you know the people on that chat forum refused to believe he was a muslim and thought he was an undercover BNP member posing as a muslim in order to insight religious hatred against muslims.

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He goes much further.. read some of his old posts for a clearer picture on his views..

An example: Any school with a majority of Muslim kids should kick out the non-Muslim children (and teachers) and become 'Muslim academies (how would we like it if the Brits did this to us) and to top it all off the *UK Gov should pay.. *

How anyone can say this with a straight face living in this country is amazing..

Agree with sarab..

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And never post your email on a chat forum, the guy scrapes emails and emails his hate speeches direct to your inbox.

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The latest year, for which we have data, Lancashire police arrested 627 people for sexual offences. 0.3% of these were Pakistanis. That’s two people. 85.5% were white British. In Lancashire, there are 1,296,900 white Brits and 45,000 Pakistanis. This means that 4.163 per 10,000 white Brits were arrested for a sex crime, compared to 0.44 Pakistanis
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If this data is correct, OP's point is understood i.e. Jack Straw's comments were unfair, full racism and hypocrisy. Hardly anyone was happy with Jack Straw's comments when discussed earlier on GS.

Though there wasn't a need to diss Britian and Brits in the process. Why are you complaining about Jack Straw's sweeping generalisations when you yourself are accusing all "native brits" of being racists? One should learn to stand up for A without looking down on B.

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You can rename Jack Straw as Jack Ass for this.

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It’s not just two (there have been whole gangs of predominantly desi guys sentenced in one go in the news recently so it’s ridiculous he’s pretending the number is so low).. Btw the source below specifically refers to Lancashire:

'Before Engage just one sexual grooming prosecution had taken place in the area. By last year the total was up to 62.

These include Imran Pervez, 27, of Pendle Street, Accrington, who was jailed for nine years in April 2009 for the rape of a 12-year-old girl.

**While those charged were predominantly Asian, there have been a couple of cases involving white offenders’
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Source: Our four-year fight to protect vulnerable girls in East Lancashire | Lancashire Telegraph


Iftikhar is just the flip side of the coin to the BNP/EDL imo..

Dunno why he doesn’t just pack his bags and go bk to Pakistan if he hates this country so much (and it’s ‘terrible’ education system that ppl from so many other countries move here for lol)..

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I think the last thread on this topic covered pretty much most good points. Why is this up again?

As usual, Deeba is all over this.

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Sexually groomed - matey bhoy I feel i m sexually spoiled :blush:

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As usual?? Why don't u look back at my last twenty or so posts and see which sections I've been posting the MOST in.. It certainly isn't this one.. Where I choose to post is my business and living in the UK of course this interests me..

(And love the little dig.. so defensive.. Funny you're more interested in mentioning me than Ifitkhar's OP, which if u could read properly, refers to more than just sexual grooming..)

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According to this report by BBC 230 people are raped everyday in England and Wales? Surely, white British males form a huge part of this figure? Anyway, I cannot judge the OP based on this post because I agree with many of his points:

1: Straw’s comments were unfair? True.
2: Those who supported his comments were also being hypocrites considering the number of sexual offences British themselves are involved in? True.
3: The accused men were not good muslims? True.
4: High teenage pregnancy rates in UK? True.

What I don’t agree with are his comments about the education system, the native brits and the youth in general… and his tone which is quite hateful. I haven’t interacted with him before, I don’t know what his agenda is. I’m just discussing the first post which is right in some parts, seriously wrong in others.