what does islam say about:
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for a muslim to fall in love before marriage? and
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sex change operations ( from male to female / female to male)
Re: sex change operations and falling in love????
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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
what does islam say about:
1) for a muslim to fall in love before marriage? and
2) sex change operations ( from male to female / female to male)
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to fall in love before marriage is no problem, but to make love definitely is!
"sex change"?? I don't know if there is anything in Quran or Hadith, but I believe "scholarly opinion/fatwa" is a big no no, unless someone who is "mixed" goes for either male/female.
Re: Re: sex change operations and falling in love????
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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
to fall in love before marriage is no problem
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prove plz:)
In Islam it does not say anything wrong about falling in love. Islam is a religion full of love, as long as a person does not go over board and do anything haram there is no harm done then.
The high minsters wife of Egypt fall in love with the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh)
Re: Re: Re: sex change operations and falling in love????
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prove plz:)
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I am afraid you'll have to prove otherwise since I never found anything which forbids falling in love.
Re: Re: sex change operations and falling in love???
i aint saying that u are wrong..but dun u think when we fall in love we communicate with that person through phone/email/chat/pictures and we meet em personally.. in islam.. na mehram isnt suppose to hear ur voice, u are suppose to cover ur self infront of em so we cant share the pictures neither we can meet em…as we have to do parda… isnt all comes in the category of sin 
any thoughts?
u cud fall in love with anyone....
but that shud not end up in romantic outings with him/her (even if its free of love making)....
u fall in love, send a marriage proposal, if refused, forget it.... :)
well, doesn't Islam say that you can't talk or see a Na-Mehram (male or female)......so, how does this concept of love before marriage comes in???
erm,ok,im a very confused child too...if all these things are haram...then well,us studying in a co education system is haram too,us talking to the boys in our school is haram too,us being friends with them is haram too,they are all na mehrams...so basically looking at them,talking with them is all haram...so what should one do?
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Good point, Majestic. Falling in “love” doesn’t mean that the couple is necessarily going to do something haraam (or even that they have already done something ‘wrong’). As Majestic stated, as long as they don’t go overboard… go through the proper channels, discuss it with your’s (and the other partner’s) parents etc etc., get married.
Some of the most beautiful Persian poetry written by Muslim poets, hundreds of years ago, discusses falling in love. As Armughal stated, send a marriage proposal if one happens to find oneself in that situation - what’s haram about that ? 
If we are going to go all that way, might as well argue that participating on Gupshup with Guppies, roughly half of whom are males and the other half females, is “haraam” as well - particularly since some nicks are not gender-specific so it’s more difficult to ascertain whether or not someone is male/female.
Falling in love isn’t a sin as long as certain lines aren’t crossed. Send a marriage proposal through the proper channels.
exactly my point.......this co-education system got to change....
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**erm,ok,im a very confused child too...if all these things are haram...then well,us studying in a co education system is haram too,us talking to the boys in our school is haram too,us being friends with them is haram too,they are all na mehrams...so basically looking at them,talking with them is all haram...so what should one do?*
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Nadia I LOVE Persian poetry :love: I always read. Many Islamic poetry, liteatures are filled with love. Look at Majnun Layla.
u have got to be kidding me love…laila majnun is part of islamic literature?
well I did not say that. However, if you look under Islamic literature I am sure you can find that or that may come up in many cases. Anyhow, Layla and Majnun were way b4 Islam.
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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
what does islam say about:
1) for a muslim to fall in love before marriage? and
ill answere your first noe
ppl here are saying that this is wrong that is wrong ..
so the reality is that
love is not somethng that u do on purpose it just happens..
talking to na mahram is not haram as long as u dont have suxual feelings for them..meaning dont talk abt something that will make u wanna have sex with them..
u can share pictures as long as u are covered meaning the womens hair and the body is covered islamic way..same goes to the man's picture....
u can tlak and look at each other but if the feeling for sex comes in all is considered haram....
thats all but im afraid its the molvis they have made our beautiful islam so close minded.....
hey!
ive not come across any islamic poetry i was just wondering can u buy these books from general bookshops? or do u have to like order them from the net?
also can u reccommend me any islamic poetry books and websites!
thank you honey
Majestic, your taste and my taste seems so similar sometimes
Aysha, What a wonderful idea for a new thread that would make. i would suggest beginning off with Rumi - some of his poetry will leave you speechless…it’s so beautiful. i’ll come back Insha’Allah with a list 
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well, doesn't Islam say that you can't talk or see a Na-Mehram (male or female)......so, how does this concept of love before marriage comes in???
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No Islam does not say that.
Well, I think, Islam does say this...better check up with someone authenticated to answer such questions.......
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*Originally posted by MyStiCaL_MisS: *
No Islam does not say that.
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Islam is love.. so how can it prohibit u from falling in love? these are feelings implanted in us by Allah Mian... so how is it we cannot??