It doesn't take much to engage with the media but for the Muslims, it's a boggyman. We all have our problems with it but no one wants to become part of the solution. There are Muslims who write, call, email the media but they are few. The following reply from Glenn Beck is more decent. He's out of Dallas.
I don't ever get any replies back. But this one strongly talked about Christiam complicity and here's what I got the same day I sent this info. out:
I was replied tersely to stop emailing propaganda form one host.
Here's a reply from Glenn Beck:
No doubt than anyone involved in this should be roundly condemned.
Here's what you are missing. People of all religions commit heinous
crimes without claiming they are doing it in support of their religion.
There is no evidence these men claimed to lead Tutsis to their death
"for the glory of Jesus."
However, the Radical Muslim terrorists justify their heinous crimes by
claiming it is done for Allah.
Are Christians blowing up buildings claiming it is done for Jesus? Are
their Christian suicide bombers? Are their Christians flying planes into
buildings in Saudi Arabia? Get back to me when that happens.
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Why was the Christian churches around the world so silent on this genocide orchestrated by it's own people?
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I don't know Malik. I haven't a clue. Not what I would concider a religious deed.
I thought it was about a couple tribes who don't like each other.
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Originally posted by storch:
*Curiously lacking in this equation is the existence of any widespread support from Christians for this slaughter. *
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No, what is curiously lacking is the lack of any or little condemnation from the Chritisian clergy and establishment of the world to the invlovement of Christian priests in the Rwandan genocide. This Christian pastor probably directed or had a direct part in the slaughter of upto 50,000 people in his parish. As stated in one of the articles I posted above "The Cross and the Genocide":-
**The majority of church societies thus have preferred to keep a low profile on the Rwandan genocide, while some openly confess their sins. There are however groups within the Catholic Church that have turned surprisingly offensive against the victims of genocide. **
Yet more shocking stories of the direct involvement of the Christian clergy in the Rwandan genocide. Here is the case of two Catholic nuns of all people convicvted in Belgium for their part in the slaughter of thousands in Rwanda:-
Sister Maria Kisito, who received 12 years, and her Mother Superior, Sister Gertrude, who received 15 years, were convicted of aiding in the slaughter of some 7,000 people who sought refuge at their convent in southern Rwanda. Prosecutors argued that they called in Hutu militiamen to drive people out of the convent knowing they would be killed, and later provided gasoline that militiamen used to set fire to a garage in which about 500 Tutsis had taken refuge.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A42755-2001Jun8)
It is obvious that there is an organized Christian fundamentalist/extremist movement around the world that has issued Church decrees to kill every Muslim wherever them find them.
Take your won advice and stop clutching at straws. I believe its the duty of every muslim to find the terrorist who kill innocent civilians and hang them by the balls. Especially those terrorist who go all over the world killing innocent women and children and stick their middle finger in every Tom Dick and Harrys ass.
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
It is obvious that there is an organized Christian...
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Priests and nuns have led the slaughter of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands in Rwanda while the Christian Churches sat back and did nothing. Since 1994 the Christian Churches have not taken care of them but the international war crimes tribunal is, and will eventually bring allthese genocidal murderers to justice.
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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
I hope anyone involved in the massacre in Rwanda are caught, charged, and locked up for life.
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Which begs the question about why the Chritian Churches (Catholic and Protestant) have done little to account for or condemn the actions of their priests and nuns in this genocide. Maybe this is because as one of the articles above states) *church societies allegedly were co-responsible for the growing hatred that led to the genocide.**
What ever the case is whether it was ethnic religious, what do we gain by discussing this amongst ourselves in this silo? Who cares about what we think? Who gets to know how the "people", let alone the Muslims, see this incident? Lot of passion and "discussion" time goes to waste when the energies are confined in a box.
Well folks, please educate yourselves a little about the 7th Day Adventist Church. They are far from mainstream Christianity. While they believe in Christ, they beleive that Christ appeared twice on earth, the second time in the Americas to ancient civiliazations of natives, now extinct.
They have little or no commonality with mainstream Protestant or Catholic Religions, and they respect far different Saints, and history of Christ on earth. To expect the Pope to stand up and condemn an African 7th Day Adventist Pastor is showing extreme ignorance of the differences in Christian religions.
Now answer this. Does anybody out there have any proof that the 7th Day Adventist Church endorsed, condoned, approved or encouraged this behavior? Undoubtedly this incident is an abomination on humanity, but I know of no one who believes (other than Malik) that there was ANY support from any corner of the Christian world for the slaughter in Rwanda.
Infact, the farther you go with this, the more I believe you are very close to insulting MY religion by the implication that something this heinous would be done in the name of my religion. I can assure you that if this kind of misrepresentation was done toward your religion that the offensive posts would be deleted as fast as lighning from Gupshup.
Changez, this was a CRIME. Religious people commit crimes, atheists commit crimes. Africa is very far away from Salt Lake City. The pastor fled, but was deported back for trial and punishment. He was not protected by the Mormons in the lawless territories of Utah...
Very interesting. So you are saying that you consider the Seventh Day Adventists out of the fold of Christianity i.e. non-Christians? I suggest you post a thread in the Religion forum and enlighten us all on this topic.
But the Seventh Day Adventist Christians are not the only one’s who have been involved in the Rwandan genocide, so have the mainstream Christian Churches. Click here:-
