The US, Russia, India and Isreal have all been guilty and are at present guilty of blundering into Islamic countries occupying them and then setting about killing innocents (including numerous children) with overwhelming force (Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya and Kashmir).
Is this sort of state terror agenda conducive to a peacful world and harmony with Muslim nations, or is it increasing the chance of more extremism and the death of more innocents on both sides?
Without a doubt the whole world can see live on there TV the terrorism inflicted by the amerikkan and Israeli occupiers everyday week in week out year in year out!
They talk about peace but in reaity there democracry which is hypocrisy is nothing but exploiting people and throwing bombs after bombs!
Serious Implications for Terrorist Activities of non-Muslims -
The World can certainly see there will be serious implications if the oppressors do not make peace with muslims in the time to come. Inshallah the muslims will rise as a great power with the mental and physical power of the Sahabah (pious companions).
if you want to fight it out you will be the looser so let allah guide you in the path of wisdom and mature thinking.
May Allah (swt) be our guide and May he guide us to the path of wisdom, mature thinking and will power and determination.
There is also occupation and brutalities committed against Muslims by Muslim governments, including in Pakistan. Are terrorist attacks against the government and its supporters a legitimate act of self defence?
Isnt this interesting. When it comes to the hostage crisis it wasnt self-defense. But now that you use muslim countries as an example, self-defense suddenly becomes an issue.
There is no smoke without fire as the saying goes!
Palestine or chechnya or anywhere else where people are fighting oppression, these people would rather live life to the full with there families have a good future but when they have had there houses destroyed there families killed and there land stolen. If anyone else was in that situation they would fight the oppressors also no doubt about it!
Even in Iraq the people fighting amerikkkan occupiers why what reason because they don't like there land occupied and also they have been humiliated with people arrested and abused for no reason.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html
Cult of Death
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: September 7, 2004
We’ve been forced to witness the massacre of innocents. In New York, Madrid, Moscow, Tel Aviv, Baghdad and Bali, we have seen thousands of people destroyed while going about the daily activities of life.
We’ve been forced to endure the massacre of children. Whether it’s teenagers outside an Israeli disco or students in Beslan, Russia, we’ve seen kids singled out as special targets.
We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, “You love life, but we love death.” This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder.
This cult attaches itself to a political cause but parasitically strangles it. The death cult has strangled the dream of a Palestinian state. The suicide bombers have not brought peace to Palestine; they’ve brought reprisals. The car bombers are not pushing the U.S. out of Iraq; they’re forcing us to stay longer. The death cult is now strangling the Chechen cause, and will bring not independence but blood.
But that’s the idea. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It’s about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.
It’s about massacring people while in a state of spiritual loftiness. It’s about experiencing the total freedom of barbarism - freedom even from human nature, which says, Love children, and Love life. It’s about the joy of sadism and suicide.
We should be used to this pathological mass movement by now. We should be able to talk about such things. Yet when you look at the Western reaction to the Beslan massacres, you see people quick to divert their attention away from the core horror of this act, as if to say: We don’t want to stare into this abyss. We don’t want to acknowledge those parts of human nature that were on display in Beslan. Something here, if thought about too deeply, undermines the categories we use to live our lives, undermines our faith in the essential goodness of human beings.
Three years after Sept. 11, too many people have become experts at averting their eyes. If you look at the editorials and public pronouncements made in response to Beslan, you see that they glide over the perpetrators of this act and search for more conventional, more easily comprehensible targets for their rage.
The Boston Globe editorial, which was typical of the American journalistic response, made two quick references to the barbarity of the terrorists, but then quickly veered off with long passages condemning Putin and various Russian policy errors.
The Dutch foreign minister, Bernard Bot, speaking on behalf of the European Union, declared: “All countries in the world need to work together to prevent tragedies like this. But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened.”
It wasn’t a tragedy. It was a carefully planned mass murder operation. And it wasn’t Russian authorities who stuffed basketball nets with explosives and shot children in the back as they tried to run away.
Whatever horrors the Russians have perpetrated upon the Chechens, whatever their ineptitude in responding to the attack, the essential nature of this act was in the act itself. It was the fact that a team of human beings could go into a school, live with hundreds of children for a few days, look them in the eyes and hear their cries, and then blow them up.
Dissertations will be written about the euphemisms the media used to describe these murderers. They were called “separatists” and “hostage-takers.” Three years after Sept. 11, many are still apparently unable to talk about this evil. They still try to rationalize terror. What drives the terrorists to do this? What are they trying to achieve?
They’re still victims of the delusion that Paul Berman diagnosed after Sept. 11: “It was the belief that, in the modern world, even the enemies of reason cannot be the enemies of reason. Even the unreasonable must be, in some fashion, reasonable.”
This death cult has no reason and is beyond negotiation. This is what makes it so frightening. This is what causes so many to engage in a sort of mental diversion. They don’t want to confront this horror. So they rush off in search of more comprehensible things to hate.
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**"Whatever horrors the Russians have perpetrated upon the Chechens, whatever their ineptitude in responding to the attack, the essential nature of this act was in the act itself. It was the fact that a team of human beings could go into a school, live with hundreds of children for a few days, look them in the eyes and hear their cries, and then blow them up...
This death cult has no reason and is beyond negotiation. This is what makes it so frightening. This is what causes so many to engage in a sort of mental diversion. They don't want to confront this horror. So they rush off in search of more comprehensible things to hate..."**
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Do these people (or anyone else) really expect anyone to sit and try to negotiate with these animals? They won't and they shouldn't.
What are the oppressed non-Muslim people of the world that are being oppressed doing? With the proliferation of human rights and democracies throughout the world over the last 50 years, it appears others are gaining their freedom from oppression. How are they doing it?
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Do these people (or anyone else) really expect anyone to sit and try to negotiate with these animals? They won't and they shouldn't.
What are the oppressed non-Muslim people of the world that are being oppressed doing? With the proliferation of human rights and democracies throughout the world over the last 50 years, it appears others are gaining their freedom from oppression. How are they doing it?
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This is my personal opinion not a fact from NYTimes.
Education and educating their masses. Having leaders that are selflessly devoted to the cause and are true public servants. They understand (unlike current leaderships im many muslim countries) not to mix religion and state.
I would like to use East Timor as an example where they gained freedom through UN backed referendum; however even their struggle towards referendum was marred by indiscriminate killings by Indonesians (our muslim brothers). Upto 100,000-200,000 people died between 1975 (the day it declared independence from Portugal) to 2002 (UN referendum).
The jihad of the future will not be fought by swords and guns, but by pens and education.
Mr David Brook I wish you would have written the same long dissertation when the US bombers bombed women and "children" in a bomb shelter in Iraq,(first Gulf War
But Alas!!! Tsk tsk tsk.
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But wait … Oh may be if the US pilots would have" lived with them for a few days " some song and dance…probably then they wouldn’t have bombed them.
You are right you people are more civil than us.