Re: Serial Bomb Blasts in Hyderabad, India, Several Killed
Dear Mod....ravage Most probably my post was not in accordance to the thread, hence you have deleted it. Kindly enlighten me what relevant and intelligent you find in the following posts?
the posts you quote talk about terrorism wrt India, whereas you bring in Pakistan clearly to start a you have this in your country no you have that kind of discussion.
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What's contradictory?
A terrorist's aim is to change things. They hope to change things by using terror to make a statement and draw attention to their cause. Attacking soft targets damages the enemy easier, uses less of the terrorist group's manpower and firepower, and is not suicide.
Hitting soft targets is not about cowardliness and bravery, it's about efficiency and smart fighting.
whatta logic?? so killing innocents who are not even remotely related to things are called efficiency and smart fighting??
dear ravage, now u understand how incorrect u r when u say there is no terrorist in this forum?? c'mon man, this is a pakistani forum..
and we Indians came here not because this is something great..there are many Indian forum out there.. but here we come to know what the people on other side thinks and how different they are..
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navtech sahab i dont know worshipme, clearly with his 10 posts he hasnt been around. if you think you've found a terrorist you're welcome to take the conversation private and call him whatever you wish.
i agree with you by the way. as you say killing innocents is hardly smart, and i'll add that any attention that is drawn to the "cause" terrorists are supposedly trying to draw attention to, is only to the extent that its the cause of inhuman buttholes.
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Navtech, I'm not a terrorist. I don't agree with any terrorist policies. I don't agree with terrorists/freedom fighters/anyone killing civilians unless it's necessary. I was simply correcting an incorrect statement on your part, and that is that killing civilians is cowardly. However, killing civilians does work as far as getting your message across. Case in point, 9/11, Iraq, etc.
I'm not Pakistani, so don't blame Pakistan for what I say. Not like I care if you do, though.
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^there is no reason why something cant both be cowardly and something that "works as far as getting your message across"
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Navtech, I'm not a terrorist. I don't agree with any terrorist policies. I don't agree with terrorists/freedom fighters/anyone killing civilians unless it's necessary. .
and what does it mean 'killing civilians unless it's necessary'.
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You do understand why terrorists do what they do, don't you? The reason they hit soft targets is because they have neither the support nor the power to face armies. It's not a matter of testosterone or cowardliness, it's a matter of strategy.
sir, if i'm not wrong, first you said that terrorist don't have public support..true and not they have power to face armies..true because they are the coterie of few henchmen thugs who for their selfish benefit arouse the people on the name of god and religion and try to disrupt the peaceful life. and they do it without coming into public. they remain in veil.
that's why what ravage said is very much correct. they are cowards and it's nothing to do with strategy.
worhipme, read this quote very very slowly so that u understand it.
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sir, if i'm not wrong, first you said that terrorist don't have public support..true and not they have power to face armies..true because they are the coterie of few henchmen thugs who for their selfish benefit arouse the people on the name of god and religion and try to disrupt the peaceful life. and they do it without coming into public. they remain in veil. .
And how would you explain that after any terror attack the Islamic media and the public start making theories that it was not a handiwaork of any muslim outfit,....or there was some designe, so and so?
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and what does it mean 'killing civilians unless it's necessary'.
Sometimes it's necessary to kill civilians. When it comes to war, there is no right or wrong. It's all about who wins. Often, civilian deaths will always cause a loss of support for whatever your organization is, but sometimes, that loss of support is outweighed by the effect.
that's why what ravage said is very much correct. they are cowards and it's nothing to do with strategy.
worhipme, read this quote very very slowly so that u understand it.
It's not cowardly to avoid death.
Take the insurgents in Iraq, for example. They remain in hiding, not because they are cowards, but because it is far more effective for them to continue living and continue antagonizing their opponents, then it is for them to go face to face with American tanks and die.
The terrorists who bombed Hyderabad don't show their faces, not because they are cowards, but again, because by staying alive they can further their cause, whatever that may be.
They all benefit their cause more by living, than by dying.
It's like claiming a sniper is a coward because he hides, kills his enemies, and escapes, instead of walking up to them with a sword and a shield and getting blown to bits by a gun.
Now, do you understand what I'm trying to say? It's rather easy.
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^^ Agreed. Its a very easy concept - strategy.
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And how would you explain that after any terror attack the Islamic media and the public start making theories that it was not a handiwaork of any muslim outfit,....or there was some designe, so and so?
its just their reputation. muslims outfits are so infamous for mis-interpreting islam and killing innocent on the name of islam. don't u think all the muslims in the world are being seen with the eye of suspicion in the foreign countries even they are not remotely related to the jihad issue.
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Its your domestic policies like oppression of Dalits, Muslims, etc which causes these violence.
Look at the Maoist Insurgencies in your Eastern states. Bascially, these are Indians who are killing other Indians but India in an attempt to show everything is fine and dandy in India blames Pakistan for all its problems.
Do you have any proof of any terrorist activities conducted by Pakistan like the Mumbai train bombings, the temple bombings, and this bombing?
Where is the proof? The Train bombings in Bombay happened more than a year ago and still there is no proof that Pakistan or ISI had a hand in it.
Why did Manmohan Singh meet Musharraf in Cuba right after the bombing if Pakistan did it?
In fact I highly suspect that this was the work of right wing hindu groups who have a history of launching terrorist attacks in order to derail the peace process and galvanize the hindu population and their BJP supporters against Muslims.
Oppression ...sorry.. who is oppressing who?...Have you heard of reservations for muslims, dalits etc in my province? I do not even have a reservation to go better school or to take up a better job in govt like they do. Please better stop reading news or articles written by naives...they just write them to sensationalize the things...
Have heard of India blaming pakistan for maoists violence....there is a violence in my province too,,,,i never seen or heard of blaming muslim terrorits..moreover maoists never kill innocents people....
kya.. do you want me to bring a investigation paper signed by manmohan singh?....Come and visit Kashmir or hyderabad....I will show you the rats hid in city and some being grilled in the jails.....
Hindu terrsorits?.. where are they blowing themselves or where they getting trained? ...I do not know about that...Enlighten all the people with your 'proof'?
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its just their reputation. muslims outfits are so infamous for mis-interpreting islam and killing innocent on the name of islam. don't u think all the muslims in the world are being seen with the eye of suspicion in the foreign countries even they are not remotely related to the jihad issue.
It is not an answer to my question. It can be a typical excuse, but not an answer.
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Atleast in Pakistan these tribals who kill others, take the blame for their actions. They can and should be just forgiven for that I believe but in India no one comes forward take the blame- see the point?
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Atleast in Pakistan these tribals who kill others, take the blame for their actions. They can and should be just forgiven for that I believe but in India no one comes forward take the blame- see the point?
I dont see the point. Could you plz elaborate.
Pakistan is a very loving society where they forgive the ppl if they accept resonsibility for the killing.How many have you forgiven?
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I dont see the point. Could you plz elaborate. Pakistan is a very loving society where they forgive the ppl if they accept resonsibility for the killing.How many have you forgiven?
I usually forgive any Pashtuns- Pashtuns have already done so much for us, that we should forgive them with all their ehsaan.
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Sometimes it's necessary to kill civilians. When it comes to war, there is no right or wrong. It's all about who wins. Often, civilian deaths will always cause a loss of support for whatever your organization is, but sometimes, that loss of support is outweighed by the effect.
It's not cowardly to avoid death.
Take the insurgents in Iraq, for example. They remain in hiding, not because they are cowards, but because it is far more effective for them to continue living and continue antagonizing their opponents, then it is for them to go face to face with American tanks and die.
The terrorists who bombed Hyderabad don't show their faces, not because they are cowards, but again, because by staying alive they can further their cause, whatever that may be.
They all benefit their cause more by living, than by dying.
It's like claiming a sniper is a coward because he hides, kills his enemies, and escapes, instead of walking up to them with a sword and a shield and getting blown to bits by a gun.
Now, do you understand what I'm trying to say? It's rather easy.
very well, so at least you accept that those are terrorists. and they are using the technique of killing of innocent people for their cause. but i still fail to understand why they are so scared of declaring their cause. see, if u want to change something, u need to express that to the authority..the govt...we are not living in jungle. or do we??
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Sometimes it's necessary to kill civilians. When it comes to war, there is no right or wrong. It's all about who wins. Often, civilian deaths will always cause a loss of support for whatever your organization is, but sometimes, that loss of support is outweighed by the effect.
you should become W's speech writer. In one paragraph you have granted full license to invade iraq, iran, pakistan....did you mean to?
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Terror suspect Mohammed Shahid Bilal’s father Mohammed Waheduddin break down while interacting with the media outside his house at Moosaram Bagh in Hyderabad on Thursday.
The media rushed to him after reports that Shahid Bilal was killed by Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence in Karachi 13 days ago.
The distraught father said he had no idea about the veracity of reports.
Meanwhile, Andhra Pradesh Director General of Police M A Basith said the state police had not received any information yet from the Pakistan government about the killing of Shahed alias Bilal in Karachi.
Basith said, ''The police cannot confirm the killing of Bilal until we receive an official report from the Pakistan authorities."
‘‘So far, Karachi police have not submitted a report on the death of Bilal to me,’’ the DGP added.
Reports from Pakistan said Shahed alias Bialal, the alleged mastermind in the August 25 twin blasts and May 18 Mecca Masjid blasts, which claimed more than 50 lives, was killed by the ISI.
Shahed, hailing from Hyderabad, was the commander of Harkat-ul-Jihadi Islami and was conducting terrorist activities from Bangladesh since several years.
Recent reports said Shahed fled to Dubai immediately after the twin blasts that rocked Hyderabad city.