Seeking a way to combat terrorism

Seeking a way to combat terrorism
7/27/2005** **
By: Haroon Siddiqui
Toronto** Star* - **

The London bombings have triggered new fears, heightened security measures and sparked another round of finger-pointing.

But, unlike in post-9/11 America, all sides of the debate are beginning to be heard in Britain.

All civilized people have condemned the terrorism, unequivocally, including British and Canadian Muslims.

Yet there is a tendency in some quarters to never lose an opportunity to lay a collective guilt trip on all Muslims. The new McCarthyism usually takes the form of a demand: “What do you have to say about …?”

Such folks need to be reminded of the May 22, 1944 notation in the diary of Anne Frank: “What one Christian does is his own responsibility, what one Jew does, reflects on all Jews.”

Hounding law-abiding Muslims contravenes our basic democratic principles, besides being wholly counterproductive.

The next debate is over trying to understand the causes of terrorism.

One side says Muslims are angry because of what’s going on in Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, etc.

Yes, but … says the other side. How come Africans and Tibetans are not terrorists? Such critics fall into three camps.

One blames Islam. “It’s a violent religion; its adherents always wage jihad.” Oriana Fallaci makes millions saying so. A congressman makes headlines wanting to bomb Mecca. Other hatemongers are more careful.

The second camp draws a distinction between Islam and what it calls Islamism, defined as Osama bin Laden’s dream of destroying the West and founding a caliphate. The terrorists are said to be his foot soldiers.

But clearly not all are inspired by Bin Laden’s religion, only his politics of grievance.

The third camp categorizes the terrorists as a neo-fascist, nihilistic and death-loving cult with an Islamic sheen. “They hate our freedoms.” “They want to destroy our way of life.”

“An evil ideology,” Tony Blair calls it, associating it with “radical Islam.” He’ll hold a conference, just as he had on Palestine when feeling similarly helpless.

The “cult of death” line prompts a debate over which side kills more - the terrorists or state-initiated economic sanctions, wars and endless occupations?

Piping up in the middle are the old unreconstructed multiculturalists, still bemoaning that the West would be better off if we were all a homogeneous lot.

We are going in circles.

Which way forward?

One side says we show the same interest in solving the problems of the Muslim world as we did, say, in East Timor.

The other side says, Muslims heal thyself. Crack down on madrassas. Fight Wahhabism. Stop fiery sermons. If you don’t do it, we will do it for you.

Muddling along in the middle are politicians and bureaucrats.

British competence in identifying the bombers does not cover up the fact that a recent security report concluded that there was no imminent threat; that one of the bombers was probed last year but not held; that the mastermind of the bombing, a known operative, was allowed to slip in and out of the country.

Blair’s pledge to deport Islamic extremists avoids the issue of where he will send those born in Britain.

Similarly, the macho talk of our own Gen. Rick Hillier about going to Afghanistan to fight “detestable murderers and scumbags” does not clarify if he plans to go to war on Britain or Pakistan or Egypt, where the bombers were born or had visited or had connections with.

He is not the only quacking Canuck. Anne McLellan - “we are also a target, you know” - would also be wiser to prepare harder but talk less.

But there is hope.

Britons see the connection between Iraq and their troubles. It’s not just Ken Livingstone, the leftist mayor of London, or rebel MP George Galloway, or some British Muslim leaders. So does a confidential security report. So does a public report by the Royal Institute of International Affairs. So does two-thirds of the public.

They are asserting themselves the same way that Canadians did before the Iraq invasion, notwithstanding the pro-war stance of the Tories, the establishment and most media.

Why are Western governments and the media so afraid to examine whether or not the terrorist Muslim mayhem that we are suffering is the extremist response to what America and its allies are doing in Muslim lands, or are complicit in?

Our own publics are pointing the way.

Haroon Siddiqui is the Toronto Star’s](http://www.thestar.com/) editorial page editor emeritus

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Re: Seeking a way to combat terrorism

This is what I (and majority of the muslims) have been saying, but they do not want to listen. They have already bought into the crap of "they hate our freedoms", "they are jealous of our success". They do not want to face and comprehend the truth. Just wait and see, replies in this thread will sort everything out for you.

Re: Seeking a way to combat terrorism

This guy needs to visit Gupshup. More than enough equivocation going on here. US is the real terror, lookee lookee I Googled a Christian terror group, root causes, War on Islam, Oppression, Repression, Occupation, Conspiracy Theories, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, deny deny deny. The only counterpoint to this comment is that all * civilized * people have condemned terror, but there are obviously a lot of uncivilized people out there.

Finally after the burning of a few mosques, urinating on Qurans, deportations and Patriot Acts, Muslims are waking up and asking, “Why do they hate us?”

Doh!

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CM do you measure success by the Subsidies and farm bills?

OG, apparently you found yet another way to sidestep the question. Its ok, I can see where you coming from...the question is when are you going to see/understand where muslims are coming from?

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Kaleem, I have been around here 4 years and nearly 5000 posts. Believe me, I get it. The problem isn’t the majority, the problem is how the majority acts with, works with, apolgizes for, and defends the violent minority. Only Muslims will ever be able to cure Muslim terrorism. Example one is the four bombers in London. Where did these guys dissappear to for a week? Are they camping out at the Four Seasons? No, they are being hidden by like minded Muslims. It is a lack of vigor and commitment to routing out terrorists that I condemn. Much of Muslims condemnation is pro forma and limp.

Only when shocked by assaults on your religion do you seem startled out of your apologistic lethargy. When the Muslim community offers rewards for terrorists, when they do not tolerate violent calls from the shelter of Mosques, then some progress will be made. This “cell” in London was huge, and certainly as large as the 9/11 crew. Plenty of people knew what was going on, and either protected or assisted their efforts. London police were clueless. Now if this happens in the culturally tolerant society of London, it can happen anywhere. Not nearly enough progress has been made, as obviously this cell operated with impunity.

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Now the question is if so many people helped them then this is a large issue than just a small minority right?

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OG lets wait for the facts before drawing conclusions. Those that aided and abeted the terrorists should be dealt with strictly. Majority of humans abhor terrorism. We don’t hate your freedom, values, or even your beliefs. What we hate is hypocrisy. You must not be bias and prejudicial. You must agree and accept that US was wrong to impose ‘Peace and Freedom’ by using ‘Shock and Awe’. The Iraq Invasion was based on preconceived notions that Iraq possesed weapon of mass destruction. Iraq is in the worst condition than it was under a dictator. US provided impetus to Iraq insurgency due to its policies. Here is one of the reason http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4718999.stm ( Iraq police accused of torture).

What happened in England, Spain and US is as bad as what happened in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine.

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Long before Iraq and Afghanistan there was the Khobar tower bombings, the cole bombings, two embassy bombings, and two attempts on the WTC. Do you think we are completely stupid?

This has nothing to do with Iraq or religion.

It has to do with hate and power

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irrelevant/charming banter removed.

OG and CM, you two have been acting like divorced spouses for a while now, could the love-hate relationship be taken off WA threads?

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Having been born and raised in a Middle-Eastern country, my own observation is that those people love any thing that is American. From Mustangs & Corvettes to Brittney Spears & Oprah they love em all. Matter of fact they have quite a few of their own versions of Brittney Spears. Just visit any Arabic music site and you will know. They like to eat at McDonalds, KFC & Burger King as well. They like to wear American brands. They love American Movies. Simpsons, Candid Camera, Knight Rider were few of my favorite programs while I was growing up. They are becoming less conservative and more “Americanized” without having to live in America. But here’s the thing, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear from a bikini-wearing-mullah-hating-Muslim Arab that America’s attitude towards Palestine-Israel issue is wrong! That what America did with Iraq is wrong. That Madeline Albright when asked about thousands of children dying every single day as a result of sanctions said “It’s worth it!” was wrong too.

You see it is not your “way of life” that they don’t like; in fact they are imitating YOUR way of life. It is your “foreign policy” towards the Arab countries that they dislike. It is simple as that believe me!

It is for the above reason I believe a “true” democratic government in Middle East will only create more problems for U.S. The way forward for U.S is to topple any disobedient government run by Sheikhs & Generals and implant a puppet like “Karzai” and call it a democracy.

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Sugar,

In the history of the world, there has never been a war between democratic countries. The US is on reasonably good terms with virtually every democratic country.

So what is different in the Middle East now? Arafat is dead for one. Arafat was the vortex of terrorism, fanatacism and later the jihadi favorite. If you ask me, Arafat is the Middle East Nixon. 20 years from now Middle East historians will be scratching their heads asking themselves "What were we thinking?". What they may find is that peace was always available, were it not for the fanatacism of the Palestinians. The Palestinians were everybodies proxy, Iran, Syria, Iraq, to beat up on the Israelis. The Palestinians bled while all the others made Palestine the number one issue. Reform could never happen when we are battling the evil Israelis. For decades the distraction of Palestine kept the masses focused beyond their borders. With Palestine settled, the masses will look inward.

The most gigantic fault of US policy is that it always valued "stability" over revolution. Well, that was wrong, revolution is good. Not always from the first day, but eventually.

Time for the revolution.