Sects of Islam

[Nussairee]

Re: Sects of Islam

@shardmanny

as salam alaikum to all muslims
(of course nusayris (alawis) are insanely kafir group, the only question really is whether they can be classed as shiites)

Always saddens me to come across an ill mannered person…Quran says,

"And the servants of (Allah) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, ‘Salaam !’ (Peace).” [Al-Qur’an, Surah Furqan 25:63]

more unfortunate is the person who testifies to the message of Prophet SAWW yet shows no signs of benefiting from it…when Prophet SAWW called his close relatives in the feast of asheera, he welcomed them with the word ‘peace’…but obviously those ignorant of the thaqalain will learn not…neither from Quran nor from the pure household of the Prophet SAWW…take a long, hard look at how far u r from the real teachings of Islam…

generally i hold the view that the current full shia spectrum goes from muslims all the way to the alawis . however i hold loyalty to 12er doctrines as a breakaway point between being muslim or being something else. when we say the word shia in normal use it is 12ers that we refer to

And tell me who cares really about your certifications?

i’d just like to say whatever conclusion psyah comes to will be closer to the correct one. i do acknowledge this

Truth is not referential my dear…(no disrespect to Psyah)

perhaps i can offer some points for consideration, psyah are you looking at this inclusive of religious beliefs or without? or a mix up of religion, history, proclaimations ie tawheed, shahada as we proclaim, some conformity to our understanding is a must?

What’s najidi religion?..history written by darbari historians…tawheed where god is restricted to a body and rides a donkey, nauzobillah…shahada which is used as a blanket to undertake services for shaitaan?

Our position is that all shias partly or completely deny Quran (remember who put Quran togather.)

U r pretending that u know when in fact u dont…if u want to prove something you’re going to have to improve a lot first…u have been debunked on ur half, actually they’re empty, claims here before…but ifu want to keep on playing deaf and bllind then just tell us so we can give up struggling to get our words across and just let u keep wasting the bandwidth…

the rumour on alawis/nusayris is they proclaim ‘there is no god but ali’ - which is likely true for them. now this tells me they are shiite founded because fourth caliph, cousin brother of Messenger SAW - Ali (ra) is not given top reverence by anyone else and always given top reverence by shiites in whatever form they take

So shardmany hands out his little kufr certificates based on ‘rumors’!

shiaism in all kufri forms is ALI,ALI,ALI,ALI,ALI. to me alawi beliefs are a development on general shia thought (infallible, on the thrown, questioner in qabar etc). dont forget the sect of those being refered to as ‘shia islam’ believe Ali ra to be the RAB mentioned in the Quran. 12ers shias can also believe imam controls the atoms of the universe, etc etc

More bakri ‘rumors’…

theres much much more, its all pointing to not being too far in thought from alawis. i do realise some shias are trying to present more moderate picture but they are basically jumping around religiously. im not fooled by it

u need to be ‘fooled’?