Secret Agencies set to kill Imran Khan

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Re: Secret Agencies set to kill Imran Khan

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political machinary that leads to agency footsteps. Imran Khan is aclassic example who was nurtured by none other than Gen Hameed Gul and continues to seek direction and support from the general.
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“Agency” links are not impossible to prove just for the record, the “mehrangate” scandal has exhaustive proof of large scale agency manipulation. The list here can be seen and it’s a virtual who’s who of the present government and it’s supporters. Similarly Hamid Gul has been quite open about what level of manipulation he was involved in with regard to the creation of the IJI. He has never mentioned anything about Imran Khan however. Similarly it is a bit confusing that the agencies would prop up Imran Khan only to smear him pre 1997 election and again pre 2002 election, and then target a very rudimentry party by harrassing party members or rewarding lotas

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Why is it that Imran feels so outraged by the killings in Karachi yet has never raised an eye brow against the 700+soldiers killed on the western borders? Cause the agencies who continue to defend their messed up policies of supporting the taliban or Pushtoon solution for Afghanistan do not want any criticism of their products. Imran was used to derail the democratic process against BB and NS, quickly found solace with Musharraf then fell out of his grace because Gen Hameed Gul and his Afghan cell were seen as the main problem.
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To my knowledge Imran was a critic of the Waziristan policy, the operation was badly planned and badly intentioned. The end result besides the 700 innocent jawans has been the death of well over a thousand civilians and internal displacement of some 10,000 civilians. Despite that there were many people on this forum who were positively gleeful at those “tribal jahills” being taught a lesson. By contrast the coverage of whats happened in karachi has been considerable. The reason for that is simple; what happens in karachi has more relevence to the average person in Islaamabad then what happens in Waziristan or Dera Bugti. Much the same happened to ZAB in 1977 and Zia in 1986

@counterpoint

State of Pakistan is caught in its own trap of strategic depth that created and funded religious fanatics, their third defence lines that have now turned their weapons against them. .

Essentially these comments reflect your own ideological view.

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His comments regarding Imran Khan being a man in hurry come from a man who has spent his entire life in politics, suffered imprsonment’s, beatings, abductions, harrassments and all the filth that could be thrown by the state. What has Imran Khan suffered? .

Yes I don’t dispute those criticisms of Imran Khan, I have however read Mairaj Muhammad Khans resignation letter and it did not mention anything about agency links. It was critical of party matters and the ideological drift to the right in the party. As far as trhe beatings and harrassments issue again him not spending a year in prison is a reflection of how, things have changed in Pakistan…in the past parties like the PPP, ANP and JI’s entire leadership had been in jail at some point or the other. Nowadays amongst the new generation you’d be hard pressed to find people who have served long jail terms. If they have it’s often on charges of alleged corruption or in hashmis case of allegedly committing treason.

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He continues to enjoy his privelaged life and has yet to make any claims of creating a party network of political activists who believe in a ideology, by the way what is Imran Khan’s ideology? Find fault in others and offer nothing but his majesty as the only solution? .

Again all your comments have some validity however they are criticisms, which do not add anything to your central comment about being an agency person.

I agree with the priveldged life but and i agree that he failed to create a network of party activists. With regard to ideology, he markets himself as a centrist, who appeals to PML-N and JI in Punjab and pashtun and Baloch nationalists in NWFP and Balochistan. His ideological flip flops may appear odd, but consider this if you believe in purely ideological politics. I would recommend parties like JI, because almost all mainstream parties have jettisoned their former ideological moorings. while parties like PML-Q never had any. To your last question, I’d say that is the right of someone in opposition, by contrast pro establishment parties rarely survive long in opposition.

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Threatening anyone has nothing to do with political credentials, its like the neocons throwing allegations against their victims while defending their failed policies. Imran Khan supported Musharraf, so what does that mean, nothing. What cannot be denied is that Abdul Sattar EDHI has accused Imran Khan and Gen Hameed gul of threatening him for not joining their party.

So essentially your only proof of this allegation, is one incident that happened 1996; where a retired former head of the ISI and Imran Khan were allegedly pressurising people to join a party so they could topple the BB gov.