Script writers control over media, no one talking about eye opening revelation of JIT

Yellow journalism and control of establishment on media is so obvious in Pakistan that none of the main stream media reporting these startling findings of JIT.
It will be sad day for Punjab if Shahbaz Sahrif has to resign. His legacy of serving Punjab will always remain in our hearts. We thank him for giving us a 6 year tenure of progress and public service.

If you challenge state writ, state will hit back. Otherwise why did the state made aerial bombardment on a bazar in Miran shah.

TUQ should immediately be arrested as per the findings of JIT report which clearly indicates at least 3 people were killed from bullet fired from Minhaj goons fire arms.

Shame on people who are demanding Shahbaz Sharif’s resignation on the basis of this 32 page JIT report but very conveniently ignore the most startling revelations of the same report..

JIT unveils ‘eye-raising facts’

Model Town tragedy

Usman Manzoor
Thursday, August 28, 2014

ISLAMABAD: The Joint Interrogation Team (JIT) constituted to probe the killings into Model Town incident, besides other facts, has also narrated some eye-raising facts. **It says that among the 10 dead, at least three received bullets from an elevated position and according to video footage and police statements, Minhajul Quran people were occupying the rooftops.

The JIT has also documented that armed personnel of Minhajul Quran were spotted on the rooftops in the footage obtained. However, the doctors who conducted the postmortem have told the JIT that the three deceased who received bullets from positive angle ‘might’ have been sitting and in such a position that it made positive angle or the bullet ‘might’ have altered its angle to positive after hitting a bone. However, the JIT does not discuss this narration beyond this. The JIT has also narrated that the Punjab Forensic Science Laboratory (PFSL) had also confirmed that the bullet shells received from the crime scene were fired from the arms recovered from Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) workers.**

On 16-07-2014, the JIT interrogated Rana Abdul Jabbar, SSP Operations, Suleiman Ali Khan, SP Security, Muhammad Bota and Sajid Ali, drivers, Dr Zahid Manzoor, Dr Shazia Manzoor, Dr Iftikhar, Dr Zahid and Dr Ghulam Ghazi of Jinnah Hospital, Lahore. These had conducted the postmortem of the dead bodies. The JIT thoroughly went through the postmortem reports, in the presence of the doctors. At least three of the deceased received gun fire from positive angle. The doctors told the JIT that the bullet might change its course to positive angle after hitting a bone or the deceased might have been at such an angle that the bullet hit them at positive angle, the report says. Seven deceased received straight gun fire.

**The report further reveals that two Kalashnikovs, three 30-bore pistols and twenty-six shells fired from Kalashnikov, twenty shells fired from 30-bore pistol were recovered from one Altaf Shah, Sheikh Zahid Fayaz, Khurram Nawaz Gandapur, Mian Zahid Islam, Sajid Mahmood Bhatti, Tanvir Sindhu and eight to nine others. Punjab Forensic Science Laboratory has verified that the shells were fired from the recovered weapons while six shells were fired from small machine gun which needs to be compared. **The JIT has mentioned that Idara Minhajul Quran and the heirs if deceased did not cooperate with the JIT therefore it would be not fair to conclude anything regarding this fact. Interestingly, the JIT has also mentioned that the police was trying to cover up the case before it as the CCPO, in a written statement to JIT, said that 29 rounds were fired by the Elite Force while 6 rounds were fired by district police. However, it is just a cover up figure as independent sources confirmed hundreds of rounds were fired by police. “Many questions are being raised on submission of incomplete record”, the JIT says.

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How much control does establishment have on police and judiciary?

I ask this because, being devil's advocate, I would like to know two things;

  1. Why SS fired his people after the incident. It (rightly or wrongly) gives impression that something is fishy.
  2. Why government is reluctant to file FIR? They could have just let them file FIR and after investigation for a couple of days, it would be determined that none of the high profile people nominated in the FIR have any relation with the incident.

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Media knows, but we know who is pulling the strings. We also saw PAT people beating up policeman in Islamabad.

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There is one sided narrative that police killed PAT workers in cold blood. Reality is that they were killed in riots & when police were attacked they used excessive force (no one can disagree with that). Since then whole thing has taken life of its own and its being pushed by certain tv channel funded by shady characters & SS is being blamed for whole thing. No one is asking questions like why this mullah who resigned from the Parliament during Mush's time got asylum in Canada & why is he back to create chaos in the country? What are his sources of funding (he is being investigated by Canadian authorities for money laundering)? Why is he back? If Pakistan was so dangerous that he feared for his life is it safe now?

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^ I agree but why didn't government take the shorter route:

You blame SS ---> Police registers FIR --> police investigates ---> finds nothing against him. Case closed?

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^^^ Govt mishandled the whole from start & even now they are doing the same thing. They need some good PR people. The sky would not fall if FIR was lodged, but it does create the impression that they have something to hide.

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If you recall my posts after the incident.. I posted that the firing was started from MNJ secretariat. Now JIT report ins confirming that.

SS was visibly shaken because of the magnitude of human loss of life. He wanted the enquiry to be impartial, therefore asked the people directly in charge of the operation to resign.

After this JIT report.. I am very clear in my mind.. that all this was a staged scripted drama.. using TUQ as an accomplice. They needed bodies to topple otherwise highly poplar Punjab government. TUQ provided them these bodies.

FIR will be lodged.. it's just a matter of time. It's not about FIR.. they want heads rolling. These container top inqalabis will not budge whatever you give them They know their worth in a free and fair electoral process. That's why they are trying to get some back door route to power.

Nadeem Malik ‏@nadeemmalik 33s
FIR to be registered against all 21 including PM & CM Punjab: Khawaja Saad

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kinda agree there. These Sharif's and even the younger ones show no sign of better judgement...or even smart quick on their feet thinking.
Majjon ka dudh dehi kha kha ker dumagh chota ke tidd wedda.

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If FIR is registered against CM and he has to resign then PM has also been mentioned for FIR, so would PM also have to resign? Seems like a way to achieve their objective of PM's resignation through backdoor, even though there is no substance to the claims. Then if their is a regime change they could be victimised on the pretext of these false FIR.

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allegation <> conviction

CM didn't have to resign. Just have police investigate and find no grounds for further investigation, deleting names from the FIR.

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You see how ridiculous this is. You make a false allegation against CM and PM, and then ask them to resign as there can be no independent investigation while they are CM and PM.

The law states that the burden is on the accuser to provide the proof and not on the defendant to clear his name. However in this case the logic has been turned upside down. CM and PM are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

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They are not demanding fair investigation.. they are demanding resignation !!!

Fair investigation demand can be easily dealt with and modalities can be worked out as per the satisfaction of aggrieved..

The objective is not fair investigation, the objective is to topple the government and system..

They are not logical debaters like you.. the are coffin wearing suicide threateners who want to achieve their objectives through any means..

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^ That is what I am saying. Had FIR been registered, it would have actually helped Government's position making TuQ's demands seem more ridiculous.

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Agreed..
But does it mean they should now be allowed to peruse their goals if the government made some mistakes in dealing with them?

Any way, the game is much beyond TUQ who is merely a tool. The next tool is going to be MQM who will most probably join these dharnas due to the presence of 2 arrested suspects in ISI custody..

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^^^ NS said he was going reveal who was behind current unrest/crisis in NA speech. Whats stopping him from doing that? Personally, I think if he has feeling that he will be pushed out he should dissolved the Parliament and call for new elections. That would end the drama.

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Probably he is waiting that after pushing him in to extreme corner.. script writers will offer him some deal. He surely doesn't want to take matters to point of no return for the time being. Fresh election would definitely suit him under these circumstances unless they are not like 2002 referendum..

Remember IK asked for 100 rigged seats from Musharraf in reward of his endorsement of fake referendum.. I don't know how many seats he has been promised now..

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*It says that among the 10 dead, at least three received bullets from an elevated position and according to video footage and police statements, Minhajul Quran people were occupying the rooftops.
The JIT has also documented that armed personnel of Minhajul Quran were spotted on the rooftops in the footage obtained. *However, the doctors who conducted the postmortem have told the JIT that the three deceased who received bullets from positive angle ‘might’ have been sitting and in such a position that it made positive angle or the bullet ‘might’ have altered its angle to positive after hitting a bone. *However, the JIT does not discuss this narration beyond this. The JIT has also narrated that the Punjab Forensic Science Laboratory (PFSL) had also confirmed that the bullet shells received from the crime scene were fired from the arms recovered from Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) workers.
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*The report further reveals that two Kalashnikovs, three 30-bore pistols and twenty-six shells fired from Kalashnikov, twenty shells fired from 30-bore pistol were recovered from one Altaf Shah, Sheikh Zahid Fayaz, Khurram Nawaz Gandapur, Mian Zahid Islam, Sajid Mahmood Bhatti, Tanvir Sindhu and eight to nine others. Punjab Forensic Science Laboratory has verified that the shells were fired from the recovered weapons while six shells were fired from small machine gun which needs to be compared. *The JIT has mentioned that Idara Minhajul Quran and the heirs if deceased did not cooperate with the JIT therefore it would be not fair to conclude anything regarding this fact. **

Answers are included in the news itself.
1. Doctors said that the positive angle did not prove that the bullets were fired from a positive angle.
2. PAT has refused to cooperate with the JIT. Their demand was to register an FIR first, which was never done.
3. The statement of the guns recovered from PAT workers was given by a police official, and whats to say they werent planted?.

If you read the JIT report, it is basically a compilation of statements given by police officials. Despite being an all police version, the JIT has still held the folks in charge as responsible.

I have seen Shahbaz Sharif's press conference in which he claimed he'd resign in a second if he was found responsible. The whole press conference, he was fumbling, looking fake, sneaking looks around, looking for words.....wreaked of someone who had something to hide. If he has done good for Lahore, that certainly doesnt give him the right to use the police as his personal thug force. This is not the first time Punjab police has acted this way on CMs behalf.

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There are a few buzzwords, which can get politicians to play the victim card at any time....(establishment, agencies, fauji, booton walay, ghulail etc)

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1) So if this JIT report is just a police version ( waisay JIT also includes MI, ISI, and IB ) then demand a fair investigation first before demanding resignation. This JIT has concluded that at least 3 people were killed from bullets which were recovered from MNJ people. May be these weapons were planted.. but it must be investigated.. not concluded like you are presuming. JIT also has debunked claims that there was no firing from MNJ secretariat as there are video footings available for roof top firing.. a location which was occupied by MNJ people.

2) You decided SS is guilty because he looked pale fake, fumbling and was giving sneaking looks..

This thread is turning out to be a serious discussion thread. Please don't ruin this thread also with your jokes..

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"The JIT has mentioned that Idara Minhajul Quran and the heirs if deceased did not cooperate with the JIT therefore it would be not fair to conclude anything regarding this fact. Interestingly, the JIT has also mentioned that the police was trying to cover up the case before it as the CCPO, in a written statement to JIT, said that 29 rounds were fired by the Elite Force while 6 rounds were fired by district police. However, it is just a cover up figure as independent sources confirmed hundreds of rounds were fired by police. “Many questions are being raised on submission of incomplete record"

At least this explains why govt. didn't want this report to come out.