From among the companions of the Prophet who do muslims believe was the most knowledgable about the Quran and its verses?
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Zayed ibn Thabit.
Edit: Thats my opinion, don't know about other muslims in the Ummah.
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Aisha once said: "He (Ali) was the most knowledgeable person among those who remained on the Sunnah (of the Prophet)."
References:
- al-Tabaqat, by Ibn Sa'd
- Tarikh al-Khulafaa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p171
- al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Ch. 9, section 3, p196
- Ibn Asakir
Furthermore:Ibn Mas'ud said: "The Holy Quran has outward and inward meanings, and Ali Ibn Abi Talib has the knowledge of both." references: Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu'aym, v1, p65
Much of the knowledge of the Prophet was transferred to Imam Ali (AS) when the Prophet was taking his last breath:Imam Ali said: *"The Messenger of Allah at that time (before his last breath) taught me a thousand chapters of knowledge, every one of which opened for me one thousand other chapters." *
references:
- Kanz al-Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, v1, p392
- Hilyatul Awliyaa, by al-Hafidh Abu Nu'aym
- Nuskhatah, by Abu Ahmad al-Faradi
Furthermore, Imam Ali (AS) once said:"By Allah, I am the Brother of the Messenger of Allah and his friend and his cousin and the inheritor of his knowledge. Who has a better title for succeeding him than me?
references:
- al-Khasa'is al-Alawiyyah, al-Nisa'i
- al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim v3, p112
- al-Dhahabi in his Talkhis of al-Mustadrak has admitted the above words to be genuine.
- Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v5, p40
Also Imam Ali (AS) himself frequently stated in his sermons:"Ask me before you lose me. By Allah, if you ask me about anything that could happen up to the Day of Judgment, I will tell you about it. Ask me, for, by Allah, you will not be able to ask me a question about anything without my informing you. Ask me about the Book of Allah, for by Allah, there is no verse about which I do not know whether it was sent down at night or during the day, or whether it was revealed on a plain or in a mountain."
References:
- al-Isabah, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v4, p568
- Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v7, pp 337-338
- Fat'hul Bari, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v8, p485
- Tarikh al-Khulafaa, by al-Suyuti, p124
- al-Itqan, by al-Suyuti, v2, p319
- al-Riyadh al-Nadhirah, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, v2, p198
- at-Tabaqat, by Ibn Sa'd, v2, Part 2, p101
- al-Isti'ab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, v3, p1107
Sa'id Ibn Musayyib as well as Umar Ibn al-Khattab said:"No companion of the Prophet ever said 'Ask me' except Ali."
References:
- Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p647, Tradition #1098
- al-Isabah, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, v2, p509
- al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Ch. 9, section 3, p196
- al-Faqih wal Mutafaqih, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v2, p167
- Tarikh al-Khulafaa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p171
- al-Tabaqat, by Ibn Sa'd, v2, p338
- al-Isti'ab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, v3, p40
- al-Riyadh al-Nadhirah, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, v3, p212
- al-Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, p83
Rasuallah (saww) said:"O folk! I am soon going to depart from here, and although I have already told you, I repeat once more that I am leaving with you two things, namely, the Book of Allah and my descendants, that is, my Ahlul-Bayt." Then he lifted Ali by the hand and said: "Behold! this Ali is with the Quran and the Quran is with him. These two shall never separate from each other until they come to me at the Pool of Kawthar."
reference:
- al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p124 on the authority of Umm Salama
- al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 9, section 2, pp 191,194
- al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani; also in al-Saghir
- Tarikh al-Khulafaa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p173
Ibn Hajar al-Haythami wrote:"The Traditions of Adherence has been handed down through a large number of sources and more than twenty of the disciples have related it."
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well if you ask me, it would definately have to be 'the gate of knowledge'.
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is it shi-ites "patting themselves on the back" season or something? cursing the Prophet's wives and companions one minute then running to their narrations the next
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lol i take it the narrations were abit too much then. go easy zero1, hes only teething.
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It was Hazrat Ali karam Allah wajhu , who was most knowledgeable and most wise after Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
zer01 -- I think your aerobics are not required. better preserve your energy. Wisdom of Huzrat Ali (ra) is heritage of Muslims.
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gupguppy, whats your itch?
code-red what do you mean it is a heritage? Muslims have inherited the wisdom of Ali or something else?
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Dictionary.com can help you better than myself 
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her·i·tage
n.
- Property that is or can be inherited; an inheritance.
- Something that is passed down from preceding generations; a tradition.
- The status acquired by a person through birth; a birthright: a heritage of affluence and social position.
*Synonyms: heritage, inheritance, legacy, tradition
These nouns denote something immaterial, such as a custom, that is passed from one generation to another: a heritage of moral uprightness; a rich inheritance of storytelling; a legacy of philosophical thought; the tradition of noblesse oblige.*
heritage
n 1: practices that are handed down from the past by tradition; “a heritage of freedom” 2: any attribute or immaterial possession that is inherited from ancestors; “my only inheritance was my mother’s blessing”; “the world’s heritage of knowledge” [syn: inheritance] 3: that which is inherited; a title or property or estate that passes by law to the heir on the death of the owner [syn: inheritance] 4: hereditary succession to a title or an office or property [syn: inheritance]
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In the matters of religion, no doubt after the Prophet (PBUH), the most knowledgeable was Syedna Umar (RA), prompting the Prophet (PBUH) to declare that had prophethood not been ceased and if there would have been a prophet after me, it would have Umar (RA).
The prohibition on alcohol and the provision of purdah to the dismay of munafiqeen to this were proposed by Umar (RA).
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I guess the shias would believe Hazrat Ali (a.s) to be the most knowledgeable after the Prophet pbuh.
Interesting to see others views .....
Zayed ibn Thabit.
Hazrat Ali
Umar.
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In the matters of religion, no doubt after the Prophet (PBUH), the most knowledgeable was Syedna Umar (RA), prompting the Prophet (PBUH) to declare that had prophethood not been ceased and if there would have been a prophet after me, it would have Umar (RA).
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hahaha..thats funny…did u make up this hadith urself?
Book 031, Number 5915:
This hadith has been narrated. on the authority of Shu’ba with the same chain of transmitters. Amir b. Sa’d b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyin appointed Sa’d as the Governor and said: What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camelg. I heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) say about 'Ali as he left behind hrin in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'All said to him: Allah’s Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: Aren’t you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundame...im/031.smt.html
read the hadith from sahih muslim..Allah tum logo ko hidayat day..mushkil hai but i will still pray
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Brother Sheraz he did not make it up the hadith is found in Tirmizi Shareef:
If some else Prophet should have been proposed by ALLAH after me, would have been Umar bin Khattab. (Tirimzi)
As for the following hadith, I have read/heard it many times too and my knowledge says it to be an authentic hadeeth as well. The difference in the two ahaadeeth is very intelectual.
The hadeeth about Umer:razi: is about prophethood that IF it would have been the case, Umer:razi: would have been the next BUT Prophethood finalized on Rasoolulah:saw:
And the hadeeth about Ali:razi: is talking about him being the brother (son of uncle) of Rasoolulah (SAW) as if Haroon:as: was the brother of Mosa:as: the only difference is that Haroon:as: was a prophet too but Ali:razi: was not. No where in that hadeeth it says that IF it would have been the case, he would have been a prophet.
Wallah-O-Alam!
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Does the Hadith or any other commentary also happen to mention on what basis or criteria Umar would have been a Nabi after the Prophet, IF Prophethood had continued? Was it because he was the most knowledgable?
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Umar said. “All people are more knowledgeable than I am, **even women **(read the next tradition).” He was once asked about the meaning of a Qur’anic verse, and his reaction was to rebuke the man and beat him until he bled, then he said, “Do not ask about matters which may appear bad to you.”
Sunan, al Darimi, vol 1 p 54
Tafsir, Ibn Katheer, vol 4 p 232
Tafsir, Suyuti, vol 6p 111
Jalalu’d-din Suyuti in his Tafsir-e-Durru’l-Mansur, vol. II, p.133; Ibn Kathir in his Commentary, vol.I, p.468; Jarullah Zamakhshari in his Tafsir-e-Kashshaf, vol.I, p.357; Fazil Nishapuri in his Tafsir-Gharibu’l Qur’an, vol.I, in connection with the sura Nisa (The Women) of the Holy Qur’an; Qartabi in his Tafsir, vol.V, p.99; Ibn Maja’ Qazwini in his Sunan, vol.I; Asadi in Hashiyya-e-Sunan, vol.I, p.583; Baihaqi in his Sunan, vol.VII, p.233; Qastalani in his Irshadu’s-Sari-Sharh-e-Sahih Bukhari, vol.VIII, p.57; Muttaqi Hindi in his Kanzu’l-‘Ummal, vol.VIII, p. 298; Hakim Nishapuri in his Mustadrak, vol.II, p.177; Abu Bakr Baglani in his Tamhid, p.199; Ajluni in his Kashfu’l-Khufa’, vol.I, p.270; Qazi Shukani in Futuhu’l-Qadir, vol.I,P.407; Dhahabi in his Takhlis-e-Mustadrak; Ibn Abi’l-Hadid in his Sharh-e-Nahju’l-Balagha, vol.I, p.61 and vol.VII, p.96; Hamidi in his Jam’-e-Bainu’s-Sahihain; Faqih Wasiti Ibn Maghazili Shafi’i in his Manaqib; Ibn Athir in his Nihaya, and others have authentically narrated with slight difference in wording that:
Muslim Ibn Hajjaj in his Sahih, chapter Tayammum; Hamidi in Jam’-e-Bainu’s-Sahihain, Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal in Musnad, vol.IV, p.265,319; Baihaqi in Sunan, vol.I, p.209; Abi Dawud in Sunan , vol.I, p.53; Ibn Maja in Sunan, vol.I, p.200; Imam Nisa’i in his Sunan, vol.I, pp. 59-61, and others of your eminent ulema have in different ways and words, reported that:
**more to read at **ASSESSMENT OF UMAR’S KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAMIC LAW
a harsh prophet with such knowledge, I read some where that childern would run away when they see Umar is coming. How could be such a person a prophet!!! :-/ 
Ibn Hajar Makki, a scholar known for his intolerance writes in his Sawa’iq-e-Muhriqa, ch. II, Maqsad V, p. 110, under verse 14, that Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal has reported and also Mir Seyyed Ali Hamadani in Mawaddatu’l-Qurba and Ibn Abi’l-Hadid in Sharh-e-Nahju’l-Balagha have recorded that:
This brings to mind the saying: “Virtue is that to which even the enemy bears witness.”
once Umar said:** “I seek Allah’s shelter from the difficult situation in which Ali is not there to help me.”
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Both personalities have their own Importance in Islam. The question was asked for an opinion and not to prove anything.