SC orders Qadri to submit details of Canadian nationality

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If you think that CJ is doing what he is doing because he is a constitutional constructionist, you couldn't be more wrong. I can give you half of dozens examples of where he is just being a bully who is abusing power of court & contempt laws to jail anyone who questions his idiotic decisions.

Btw, keep in mind that he is the same guy who took oak from the military dictator and gave them power to amend the Constitution as they pleased.

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aap to kehtay hayn PTI already going down, ab aap kah rahay hayn ‘very hard to face brainless niralas’, kia ye khula tazaad nahi hay?

BTW, agar koi neutral insaan comments parhay to usay pata chal jaye gaa ke jiyalay kitnay brainless hayn :hehe:

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Party in Pakistan and ‘Nirralas’ at PA are two different things .
Here you are dominating and at Pakistan , You are no where .
Let’s come back to topic
Bosses are already very angry
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I'll agree that CJ acts like a bully, but i am happy that a drama baaz has been put in his place.

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I never knew before listen TUQ speech about current EC system and after knowing that how it made and how it's work THERE is no chance for a fair election. Keep cry atleast for two decedes till brainwashed voters able to wakeup and say enough is enough till that time we should be having PPP and pmln on our throtes.
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Welcome Hanibal

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tau aap ko pareshan honay ki kia zaroorat hay, ham aap ko khush-fehmi mai mubtala samajhtay hayn aur aap hamayn :hehe:

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So in other words you are far better qualified for the post of Supreme Court Justice than those sitting in the present Courts correct? After all they are retards and you obviously are not.

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I did not write anywhere in my post that Pakistani judges are retards. I wrote that they are on pay-roll of Ganja Shareef and thus gave judgment not according to constitution (that clearly says that all Pakistanis are equal in front of law) but to make Ganja Shareef happy (ignoring whatever the constitution says).

Anyhow, it seems you do not read the post and still make comments without thinking. So, the way things are, I think you pass the qualification to become Pakistan Supreme Court Judge. :)

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Your claim that they are on the pay roll of Nawaz Sharif is based on what evidence exactly? Secondly based on what legal framework or jurisprudence are you stating that the judgement was not made in accordance of the constitution?

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^^^ Do I have to repeat again ‘what I wrote earlier with reasons and evidences (by mentioning constitutional clauses that are clear to even layman)’?

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Qadri says not to discuss SC issue now

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Qadri can forget the issue, but Supreme Court did not gave verdict against Qadri only that he can ask others not to discuss SC issue.

Iftikhar and his team of corrupt SC judges gave verdict on Pakistanis holding dual-nationality, degrading their nationality (contrary to constitution of Pakistan that says, all Pakistanis are equal), so why one should not discuss SC who believes they are above constitution, and thus have right to deprive our (dual Nationals) right over the country where we were born and also still hold nationality of that country (backed by Pakistani constitution and right given to us by Pakistan government in agreement with country whose nationality along with Pakistani nationality that we have)?

We also could not and should not forget people like Nawaz the retarded corrupt, who was saying same before Iftikhar team gave such verdict … and that shows who the corrupt judge and his team were taking their commands from.

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And that is the problem. If they layman understand the legal jurisprudence of the law why would we need Supreme Court Justices? Its pretty simple. The Chief Justice is a the foremost legal authority in the country. Your legal opinion vis a vis his is insignificant. Put it this way when people argue that the US Supreme Court justices undertook an illegal act who do you believe the layman or the US Supreme Court Justices?

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You are wrong. Supreme court interpret laws where there is ambiguity. If that was not the case then every one in all circumstances would go to court to see what laws say regarding everything.

For instance, I would enter your house, would slap you, and would do whatever I like. If you or police would have tried to stop me, I would have said that what I am doing is my right, and if you do not agree than go to court. But no, most laws are obvious and all know that, and it is those laws that has ambiguity that courts clears, or if there is claims then court see whose claim is right according to obvious, and courts give reason for that too (as both parties would have reason to claim they are right).

In present case, constitution in clear words says that it is fundamental right of all citizen to be treated equally.

Dual nationals are citizen of Pakistan just like people with one nationality. No ambiguity there, and thus should be treated equally in front of law. No judge have right to question a person's dual nationality.

It is just like if I would have two houses I would be owner of both house just like a person would be owner of his only house if that person has one house. No ambiguity there. Court cannot say (nor could interpret) that I am lesser owner of one house or another if I have two houses.

I have dual nationality (British and Pakistani nationality), and if any British judge says in court that I am lesser British citizen or not a citizen of UK just because I also have Pakistani nationality than I would consider that infringement of my right ... but regardless, in front of such remarks all media would stand up for me, and such comment would be enough for that judge to lose his position as judge.

But it seems, Pakistani thug judges of SC and Politicians backing them are above laws and above people of Pakistan. They have already taken all rights of Pakistanis to live and are waiting for the day when Pakistanis would stand up to take right of these people to live (literally)

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In this world, every person should know basic rights they have in law, and that is not choice but it is obligation. No court or constitution can take away that right, neither one needs judges to interpret those laws and right of individuals. No judge can ask question or interpret such laws, as such laws are part and parcel of society (equally applicable on judges themselves)

Dual Nationality means nationality of two or more countries. A person who holds dual nationality is citizen of all countries that person hold nationality (unless that person denounces his nationality or due to any reason loses his nationality). So, when it comes to nationality or citizenship, no judge have any right to judge citizenship, or can say that 'your nationality is any inferior or superior than someone else's nationality'. In constitution there is no where mentioned that Pakistanis have two types of citizenship or Nationality, one superior than other. Pakistani constitution talks of only one type of citizenship, that is Pakistani citizenship and declared that all Pakistani citizens are equal.

It is knowledge of such basic right (and that includes knowledge of having citizenship right) that one opens bank account, buy or build houses, go to school for education, get married, enter their house, get a job, travel, do financial or any other transactions, get work done by other and pay them, etc, etc, etc. Even purchasing food and clothing from shops one needs to know their right … else shop keeper would take their money and would not give them anything. Even using money one need to know law, else they cannot even use money for any transaction.

Else, people would not respect other peoples’ right nor would be able to live within laws and limits of laws, because they would not even know what rights they have and what rights others around them have. Then there would be anarchy, as criminals would do crimes considering that it is their right, individuals would be unsure where they stand in front of the law, and police would do whatever they like.

Actually, only in banana countries, judges try to interpret all laws (including basic laws) to deprive people of their rights (mostly on behalf of rulers … and in Pakistan case, on behalf of their pay-masters). Same happened in Pakistan when paid-Mulazims holding Judges post declared Pakistani nationals as foreigners, just to make their pay-master Ganja-Shareef happy.

Anyhow, one thing I have to admit, that is, unfortunate thing about Pakistanis is that, same Ganja Sahreef would come to UK and Pakistanis, most of who are of Kammi background and have no respect for themselves or desire to raise question about their right, who got humiliated by judges on behalf of Ganja Shareef, would start visiting and licking the back-side of Ganja-Shareef, instead of asking Ganja-Shareef that in what capacity he gave comment that TUQ, due to him holding dual-nationality, is foreigner … or that he has lesser right then any other Pakistani who hold only one nationality?

Note: Doubting loyalty of other Pakistanis is old habit that some retarded Pakistanis in power have.

Even though constitution of Pakistan gives equal right to all citizen, people of above mentality considering themselves Superior Pakistani and others inferior to them always doubted loyalty of other Pakistanis (as if it is their God-given right). It is these people who caused separation of East Pakistan because they in power did not considered Bengalis equal citizen to them. Same they are doing in Baluchistan, South Punjab, and Sindh, and it is same mentality that makes them oppose Zardari more than Nawaz even though Nawaz is bigger corrupt, acclaimed liar, and criminal then Zardari.

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Ah so your concern is not the legal issue of the Article under which Tahir-ul-Qadri provided his position. Nor is your concern that the Supreme Court found he had no legal standing based specifically on that article. (Just for your information according to Pakistani legal pundits, TUQ used the wrong article of the constitution to say his rights were infringed) Your concern is purely emotional. Its a simple question of "how dare he question the loyalty of dual nationality holders?".

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Oh ... are you sleeping on the issue unaware, or pretending to be sleep? what legal issue or the article you are talking about that TUQ was required to provide his position on? ... When throughout the case, no issue was discussed in court other than 'rights that TUQ had to raise constitutional issues in court' and to undermine his rights, court made an issue of his 'dual nationality and loyalty' to Pakistan.

For me. I have my reservation on nationality and loyalty of these thugs who were sitting on SC benches and questioning TUQ, as no Pakistani and no person loyal to Pakistan could have asked such questions from loyal citizen of Pakistan ... what bench asked from TUQ regarding his nationality and loyalty ... as TUQ Pakistani nationality as well as his loyalty is unquestionable.