Saying Ya Rasool-Allah (O Messenger of Allah!)

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Saying Ya Rasool-Allah (O Messenger of Allah!):

It is not permissible to call upon anyone other than Allah, whether at times of ease or times of hardship, no matter how great the status of the one who is called upon, even if he is a Prophet who is close to Allah, or one of the angels, because du’aa’ is a form of worship.

It was narrated from al-Nu’maan ibn Basheer that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Du’aa’ is worship,” then he recited (interpretation of the meaning):

“And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me * I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship * they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’”

[Ghaafir 40:60]

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2895; Ibn Maajah, 3818.

Worship is due only to Allah; it is not permitted to direct worship towards anyone else. Hence the Muslims are agreed that whoever calls upon anyone other than Allah is a mushrik (polytheist, one who associates others with Allah).

Ibn Taymiyah said:

Whoever regards the angels and Prophets as intermediaries whom he calls upon, puts his trust in and asks them to bring that which will benefit him and ward off harmful things, such as asking them to forgive sins, guide them, relieve them of distress and meet their needs, is a kaafir, according to the consensus of the Muslims.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 1/124.

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The kinds of shirk include asked the dead for one’s needs, or seeking their help, or turning to them. This is the essence of shirk.

Fath al-Majeed, p. 145

Hence Allah has said that there is no one more astray than the one who calls on others besides Him. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And who is more astray than one who calls on (invokes) besides Allah, such as will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection, and who are (even) unaware of their calls (invocations) to them?

And when mankind are gathered (on the Day of Resurrection), they (false deities) will become their enemies and will deny their worshipping”

[al-Ahqaaf 46:5-6]

How can he call on others besides Allah, when Allah has told us that they are helpless? Allah says:

“And those, whom you invoke or call upon instead of Him, own not even a Qitmeer (the thin membrane over the date stone).

If you invoke (or call upon) them, they hear not your call; and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will disown your worshipping them. And none can inform you (O Muhammad) like Him Who is the Allah; Knower (of everything)”

[Faatir 35:13-14]

Allah tells us the situation of those who are called upon instead of Him, of the angels, Prophets, idols, etc. in a manner that indicates their helplessness and weakness, and that they lack the abilities that are to be expected in the one who is called upon, such as sovereignty, the ability to hear the call and the ability to respond.

How can the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) be called upon, when Allah has commanded him to say, “Say: ‘It is not in my power to cause you harm, or to bring you to the Right Path’” [al-Jinn 72:21 ] ???

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “If you ask, then ask of Allah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allah.”

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2516.

Hence there can be no doubt that it is a mistake to praise the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in the words

“O most noble of creation, I have nobody to turn to except you when calamity strikes.”

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) warned us, according to the report narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim, ‘Do not praise me as the Christians praised ‘Eesa ibn Maryam, I am the slave of Allah and His Messenger.’ Rather the way to venerate him and love him is by following his Sunnah and establishing his religion and rejecting all the myths that the ignorant attribute to him. But most of the people do not do this, and they occupy themselves with this exaggeration and praise which leads them to commit major shirk.”

Moreover, it is not known that even a single Sahaabi used to seek the help of the Messenger or call upon the Messenger, neither was that transmitted from any of the respectable scholars. It is only one of the myths of the deviant.

If something troubles you, then say Yaa Allah, for He is the One Who answers prayers, relieves distress and controls all things.

KEEP YOUR TRUST IN ALLAH, ALONE!

Source: ** Repel Satan E-group

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jzak Allah khayr sister....
some ignorant muslims equate Rasool-Allah to Allah and think they can call unto him to answer their prayers....
but such practice is indeed wrong and falls under shirk (a sin that Allah says in Quran that he will never forgive)....

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Very good post. I wish people learn from it. Because I’ve had much of apposition when I tell pepole not to ask Allah [swt] by saying 'by the wasila of Muhammad [s] do xyz to me"
Good post

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I would like you all to get a book "Ya Rasool Allah ( SAW ) Kehnay Ka Jawaz by Hazrat Maulana Ahmad Raza Khan Brailvi"

that would help you getting why they say "Ya Rasool Allah ( SAW )"

Ab mujh per koi fatwa na day daina bkz main to aik mamooli sa banda hoon .....

Agar fatwa daina hai to Hazrat Maulana Ahmad Raza Brailvi per do .... and I got a lot of Taqareers by DeuBnad Ulama's who quote words by Hazrat Maulana AHmad Raza Khan Brailvi ....

Fi Amaan Allah
ABC

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Deoband and Brailvi says it all. There are already many fatawa on them, so don't worry no ones going to issue a fresh fatwa on you.

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what exactly is the meanin of this?

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Coming from a family originally Deobandi, I’ve always been taught that asking favours from the unseen from anyone other than God is a very big sin and considered polytheism no matter what excuses you make but I was taught that taking the name of our Prophet or some other pious person in prayer was allowed for example saying “Ae Allah apne Habeeb (s) ke sadqe meri falaan dua’ qubool kar leejiyey” “Oh Allah accept ‘my such and such’ a request for the sake of your Beloved (s)”.

Is saying that allowed?

I don’t do it anymore, because I don’t follow any denomination/sect in particular, just whoever has the strongest proof from the Qur’aan, Sunnah and the consensus/opinions of the early generation of Muslims/scholars.

I now say “Oh Most-Merciful out of Your Mercy…”

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I dont think asking for someone's sake is allowed. I had read it in a book once and asked for refference and no refference was ever shown to me.

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*Originally posted by Zakiii: *

I don’t do it anymore, because I don’t follow any denomination/sect in particular, just whoever has the strongest proof from the Qur’aan, Sunnah and the consensus/opinions of the early generation of Muslims/scholars.

I now say “Oh Most-Merciful out of Your Mercy…”
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That does sound correct. Also, the wasila of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) will only be valid in the Hereafter. That too with the permission of Allah (SWT) and depending on our aamal. And Allahu Aalim.

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I would like to hear what the shia sect has to say about this. Ya Ali, Ya Ali maddad etc is pretty common amongst the shi'ites.

Any comments?

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*Originally posted by Stupid Idiot: *
I dont think asking for someone's sake is allowed. I had read it in a book once and asked for refference and no refference was ever shown to me.
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plz go through the whole thread again and you will find a book. Get that book and hopefully it will help you find the right way !

Fi Amaan Allah

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*Originally posted by amirbilal: *

plz go through the whole thread again and you will find a book. Get that book and hopefully it will help you find the right way !

Fi Amaan Allah
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You see every book is not right, we have to be very careful. besides what we think is the right way might not be one : ). Let us share what we think of right way is.

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Seeking help from any one other then ALLAH TAala is not allowed..deemed as shirk......but on the other hand can nay one tell me why seeking waseela is not allowed.....

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ref: Trust ?

in the name of Allah the most Beneficant the merciful

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KEEP YOUR TRUST IN ALLAH, ALONE!
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this means that donot trust in Prophet Mohummad saw and khilfa-e-Rashideen and the other respected sahabah ?
what did you meant while writting this?

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Stupid Idiot: *

You see every book is not right, we have to be very careful. besides what we think is the right way might not be one : ). Let us share what we think of right way is.
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You see i mentioned earlier that this book is by Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Raza Khan Brailvi, and a lot of scholors from other sects quote from books by him.

This book will to you with proper refrences that why ppl say Ya Rasool Alla (SAW).

To say that sth is is not right even though you hav't gone through that is just another way to kill discussion.

Best Regards

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*Originally posted by amirbilal: *
You see i mentioned earlier that this book is by Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Raza Khan Brailvi, and a lot of scholors from other sects quote from books by him.
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I had mentioned earlier quote Quran and Sunnah becuase I've read alot of fabricated things in the books of extreemly famous 'scholars'

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*Originally posted by amirbilal: *
This book will to you with proper refrences that why ppl say Ya Rasool Alla (SAW).
To say that sth is is not right even though you hav't gone through that is just another way to kill discussion.
Best Regards
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Can the brother be kind engough to quote a single place where I said saying Ya Rasool Allah is wrong.
Passing judegements before analyising them are a way to kill disscusion.

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Assalam o Alaikum

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Only Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
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arabix transliteration of above ayah

** Iyyaka naAAbudu wa-iyyaka nastaAAeenu **

here look that ALALH has used the word *iyyaka * meaning only thee do we worship ..it could have been gramitically correct to use the word nabuddoka and *nastainukka * so why did ALLAh used iyyaka ..why giving emphasis on the word ONLY THEE .....it maens that we should only seek guidence from ALLAH .....

hope that clarification helps ....

wasalam

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It does not matter what we imperfect humans say. What matters is what Allah says and what the Prophet :saw: sunnah was. Surely the Prophet :saw: is the best example. We can find everyhting for guidance in his life after the Quran. The sahaba who are above all the ulama today combined, never asked anyone besides Allah. Stick to the real deen that was pure and clean from new innovations.

Whatever some scholars say (like the one somebody mentioned) is what is their opinion. Everyone has a opinion that they try to justify. However, if you simply understand Quran, you will know that it is Allah on whom we trust.

Ala Allah i fal yatawakalil mominoon.

It is only on Allah momineens place their trust.

Quran is so clear. The only problem is that we do not read it and understand it. Instead we follow peopel who can make mistakes.

Iyyaaak a naabudu waaaiyaaka nastaaeen

To thee we worship and to thee we ask for help (surah fatiah)