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Even his previous sect did not allow him to do that. He never ate pork. That's baseless allegations.
Actually Wolpert narrates an event when he was working in Bombay in his brilliant work "Jinnah". Ruttie brought him some ham sandwiches for lunch, and he stated "not here, I am trying to win (the Muslim vote)."
I love Quaid-but he did eat a bit of that stuff, and drink. Even his driver Bradbury is sourced as evidence of that claim.
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wa alaykum salaam
never…but it doesn’t mean that he’s not muslim or he doesn’t know anything about Islam.
Yes
yes inshaAllah
That’ll be great. Then majority of pakistani muslims will be religious bcoz most muslims in the west are religious.
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Who are we to judge a man by things that are in the distant past? Maybe he has made sincere tawba - it's not as though we see current pictures of him clubbing. I think he'll do more justice to Pakistanis than the fake mullahs running around trying to cause fitna or the current crop of feudals and military brass. He can't harm Pakistan any more than his predecessors already have.
I don't see you maligning Quaid-i-Azam for his westernized lifestyle. Has there been such a "westernized" leader since his time?
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Who are we to judge a man by things that are in the distant past? Maybe he has made sincere tawba - it's not as though we see current pictures of him clubbing.
People are not stupid. They have a right to know if a man is a hypocrite or not. Imran does come across as preachy in his interviews. It is funny that he disparages the youth because of them indulging in things that he had done himself. Past is a very good predictor of someone else's views and future actions. In Imran's case that is proving to be correct as well. Whether he has asked the Lord for his forgiveness or not is irrelevant. The question is whether he can be honest with the people and level with them. Who is to say that he will not make mistakes, big ones, in the realm of public policy and then refuse to explain himself or answer questions about them.
In the recent tumultuous events in Pakistan, he has acted like a very opportunistic politician.
Also, how do the Americans feel but David Duke and his political aspirations, knowing full well that he was an ex-Klansman.
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Moin ul Atiq: This is not the jokes forum. Did you forget you were logged into the Pakistan Affairs - politics valitiks section?
MQM say kitnay pesay khayay hain? Atleast Imran did not devour the savings of widows and orphans. And he has made tawbah. Its a personal matter b/w him and Allah.
Using your logic we basically can't forgive anyone right?
So if Junaid Jamshed announced he would run against MQM, you guys would bring up his singing and dancing days and his supposed rendesvous with certain models etc....right?
pathetic slime diggers...
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I dont care is she's divorced.. but last heard she did convert for this playboy.. right? I haven't met ex-wife of any Pakistani commoner who's like that. Why is he not willing to go to LA and get DNA tests done? atleast hospitals in the US will not swap his samples with Kevin Federline or someone's..
Now, coming on to his popularity- I agree he has proven his worth as a cricketer.. entire nation respects him for that.. He's using that and his good looks(to win female voters- half of the voting population) to win election. Now, talk of his world cup vitory- did he win the world cup alone? he was captain- face of the team. There were some solid performances in the semi-final and the final bu inzi and wasim bhai. But remember Imran khan more- I agree he was a great captain- no doubts but how does that proof he will be able understand problems of a common Pakistani? What does he have under his belt to prove that? Has Mianwali improved since he took charge? He has a hospital built on khairat money(which is not completely free by the way)- and... what? He talks well because of his upbringing.. Pakistanis in the west like him because it'll give them a good image they can associate with.. when goras look at Pakistani PM they will think so high of Pakistan.. isn't it?
I remember my khala used to be a super fan of Rajeev Gandhi and used to hate Zia like anything in the 80s.. thought Zia looked like a frog in bad mood or something. PCG, I understand girls have a thing for good looks.. LOL!
So, you think someone that converted for marriage, and then gets divorced should still continue to practice Islam when she probably wasn't sincere about it in the first place (hence her reversion to unIslamic activities?).
You do realize that you can't force someone to accept Islam, right?
Someone hit it right on the nail here - why aren't we dragging out all the other politicians who have been involved in ridiculous sex scandals and have been sleeping with immoral women?
And I'll have you know that the wives of many politicians parade around like conservative mohtarmas - they're actually not any better than a "clubbing" type woman, what with the corruption they delve in.
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There is no reason why Imran's past should dictate his future. It is idiotic to judge someone based on his views or actions of the past and not considering the present and the future. If you don't agree with his current stance on politics then don't vote for him. Simple.
Starting a campaign to prove that someone has a questionable past is going out of the way to feel good about yourself. intiha of kameena and ghatia pun. Even more so than Imran's Sita white case.
The whole parliment is sharabi kababi..be fair and campaing aginst all of them.
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There is no reason why Imran's past should dictate his future. It is idiotic to judge someone based on his views or actions of the past and not considering the present and the future.
That would make psychics richest people in the world. You are correct: It is "idiotic" to judge someone based on their "present and the future". How do you judge someone by considering their "present and the future". How do I judge someone today by considering their future? Isn't that the basis for all bigotry and prejudice in this world.
Imran's past behavior is not off the table. People have a right to know that he will not be as reckless in the future as he has been in the past. People also have a right to know that he will answer their questions if he bungles something in the future; being evasive is not an option for someone who preaches justice and equality.
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That would make psychics richest people in the world. You are correct: It is "idiotic" to judge someone based on their "present and the future". How do you judge someone by considering their "present and the future". How do I judge someone today by considering their future? Isn't that the basis for all bigotry and prejudice in this world.
You don't 'judge' based on the present and future, however, you should 'consider' present (which you conveniently omitted) and future (of course from the current agenda)
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Imran's past behavior is not off the table. People have a right to know that he will not be as reckless in the future as he has been in the past. People also have a right to know that he will answer their questions if he bungles something in the future; being evasive is not an option for someone who preaches justice and equality.
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He has the right to avoid questions relating to his personal life. However, selectively discussing events of his past to judge him shows an entirely different agenda.
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Looks like MPC conference went down the drain.
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You don't 'judge' based on the present and future, however, you should 'consider' present (which you conveniently omitted) and future (of course from the current agenda)
Actually I didn't omit anything. I did want to point that judging someone based on their "future" doesn't make any sense. Even if you consider Imran's present, he is not faring well. Why didn't he denoucne the mullahtic loonies who took women and children hostage and demanded safe passage for foriegn mullahtic loonies? Someone who's a champion of 'justice' should support the writ of law. Now please don't respond with "what law? there is no law in pakistan hence writ of govt. is null and void". No state would tolerate people kidnapping policemen or physically assaulting them and disarming them.
He has the right to avoid questions relating to his personal life. However, selectively discussing events of his past to judge him shows an entirely different agenda.
He doesn't. His past indiscretions run contrary to (conservative) values an average Pakistani holds dear. If Pakisatnis, his constituents, have a problem with that and want answers, he should address them. This behavior also indicates whether he'd a reliable leader and not evasive in times of crisis.
He is a good social worker and can effect change but he is not public policy or politics material. He may not be a good manager either. In one of the tv interview he admitted that his hospital runs a loss of 70% loses each year which adds up to 70 "carore".
Imran doesn't deserve special treatment.
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2) Have you seen Jemima wearing hijaab? 3) Do you he will do justice to Pakistan and its public? 4) What if he decides to make Pakistan like the west?
2) YES
3) Yes, better than now
4) Good for him and Pakistan then. You do know Afghanistan is just over the border. I will pay for your one way ticket.
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Imran doesn't deserve special treatment.
That's right. There is no need for a special campaign against him.
People who don't want to vote for him because of his MMA alliance or pathetic hospital management skills (not to mention built by his efforts) should vote for a better candidate.
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Let me know how it goes!!!
Although i am sure you are never going to…
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That's right. There is no need for a special campaign against him. People who don't want to vote for him because his MMA alliance or pathetic hospital management skills (not to mention built by him) should vote for a better candidate.
If people want a "special campaign against him", they have every right to. What Imran is not entitled to is a free-pass i.e. special treatment. And after his silence in denouncing mullahtic loonies, he is not much of a champion of 'justice' either. He is just another Pakistani politician.
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And after his silence in denouncing mullahtic loonies, he is not much of a champion of 'justice' either. He is just another Pakistani politician.
Yes, now we are talking politics and present instead of past and personal.
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Yes, now we are talking politics and present instead of past and personal.
Either way its all fair game in public life and Imran's "politics and present" aren't helping him either.
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If one wants to turn/drift away from his past doings and seems like a changed person then we should let him do that. I am not Imran's fan but one thing which bothers me is the fact that we don’t let go of his Sita White and Jemima past. What gives people?
Moin, you should not worry about starting a campaign against Imran. He might be a changed person but he has no significant vote bank. He can personally win popularity votes but PTI is a one man party. There is no one else. And for you to become PM, you need 66% seats in NA.
He himself admits that he has a long way to go. Let the guy enjoy his political fame.
We can ignore Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s Diesel kickbacks allegations and vote for him. :-)
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pehlay batatay na yar. I remember we use to have a prof. umar shareef in KK forums and we use to laugh on his threads.
Ok let me laugh now:omg: