Saudis to the US: Veto Palestinian State & you will lose an ally

Good to see Saudis taking this stand, but I’m not sure if this will work.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/opinion/veto-a-state-lose-an-ally.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

Veto a State, Lose an Ally

The United States must support the Palestinian bid for statehood at the United Nations this month or risk losing the little credibility it has in the Arab world. If it does not, American influence will decline further, Israeli security will be undermined and Iran will be empowered, increasing the chances of another war in the region.

Moreover, Saudi Arabia would no longer be able to cooperate with America in the same way it historically has. With most of the Arab world in upheaval, the “special relationship” between Saudi Arabia and the United States would increasingly be seen as toxic by the vast majority of Arabs and Muslims, who demand justice for the Palestinian people.

Saudi leaders would be forced by domestic and regional pressures to adopt a far more independent and assertive foreign policy. Like our recent military support for Bahrain’s monarchy, which America opposed, Saudi Arabia would pursue other policies at odds with those of the United States, including opposing the government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in Iraq and refusing to open an embassy there despite American pressure to do so. The Saudi government might part ways with Washington in Afghanistan and Yemen as well.

The Palestinian people deserve statehood and all that it entails: official recognition, endorsement by international organizations, the ability to deal with Israel on more equal footing and the opportunity to live in peace and security.

Israel should see the Palestinian bid for statehood not as a threat, but as a chance to return to the negotiating table and prevent further conflict. Recent polls show that up to 70 percent of Palestinians say they believe there will be a new intifada if the deadlock is not broken shortly; this should encourage Israel to seek peace with the moderate Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

The Obama administration has had ample opportunities to lead Israelis and Palestinians into bilateral peace talks, but American policy makers have unfortunately been more preoccupied with a deteriorating domestic economy and a paralyzed political scene than with finding a workable solution to this epic injustice. Because Washington has offered no viable new proposals, the least it can do is step aside and not hinder Saudi, European and moderate Arab efforts to advance Palestinian rights at the United Nations.

Even Israeli officials have recently admitted privately to their European counterparts that only Saudi Arabia will be able to give the Palestinians the required religious, political and financial legitimacy they need to complete a deal with Israel. Saudi Arabia had earmarked over $2.5 billion in aid to the Palestinian Authority since June 2009, making it by far the largest single supporter of the Palestinian cause. But this money will not do much good until Palestinians are granted their fundamental rights.

The 2002 Arab Peace Plan must be the starting point for negotiations; a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders is the only realistic foundation on which to restart talks, seeing as how the Oslo Peace Process has proved fruitless.

The Palestinian statehood initiative is a chance to replace Oslo with a new paradigm based on state-to-state negotiations — a win-win proposition that makes the conflict more manageable and lays the groundwork for a lasting solution.

The only losers in this scenario would be Syria and Iran, pariah states that have worked tirelessly — through their support of Hamas and Hezbollah — to undermine the peace process. Saudi Arabia recently played a leading role in isolating Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s brutal government by demanding an end to the killing of protesters and recalling the Saudi ambassador from Damascus. The impending fall of Mr. Assad’s barbarous regime provides a rare strategic opportunity to weaken Iran. Without this vital ally, Tehran will find it more difficult to foment discord in the Arab world.

Today, there is a chance for the United States and Saudi Arabia to contain Iran and prevent it from destabilizing the region. But this opportunity will be squandered if the Obama administration’s actions at the United Nations force a deepening split between our two countries.

Although Saudi Arabia is willing and able to chart a new and divergent course if America fails to act justly with regard to Palestine, the Middle East would be far better served by continuing cooperation and good will between these longstanding allies.

American support for Palestinian statehood is therefore crucial, and a veto will have profound negative consequences. In addition to causing substantial damage to American-Saudi relations and provoking uproar among Muslims worldwide, the United States would further undermine its relations with the Muslim world, empower Iran and threaten regional stability. Let us hope that the United States chooses the path of justice and peace.

Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former director of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former Saudi ambassador to the United States, is chairman of the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies.

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They shouldn't talk about being "ally" but oil-diplomacy.

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^haha..true.

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I think the soodis have learned the lesson of oil diplomacy vs what happened to King Faisal.

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The Saudis like to keep a balance between being slaves like Pakistan and outright enemies like Iraq.

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I think I missed it , I do not see any ultimatum from Saudis .
This article by a former Saudi director of intelligence and a prince does not make it an official policy.
I do not think Saudis have the courage to give US this kind of ultimatum.
At best it is an analysis of what can happen and speculation.

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come on does anyone believe saudis give ultimatum to the USA for even one minute.

the saudis provided military and air bases for the United States to attack iraq not once but twice

the saudis invest in american estimated between $750 billion to $1 trillion

the saudi depend on the americans for its security

it is not fact Saudis dictate policy to the United States it is other way around, even though Saudis have all the cards they so ignorant and shallow they happy to carry on with the status quo blindly!

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There is no difference between Saudi thought process and Pakistanis, they both can't think straight, they both can't think for their nation. All this statement of "losing an ally" is just tea-cup-storm.

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Not even that , it is not an official statement or policy, it is just an analyst speculating.

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I seriously doubt the authenticity of this article. I really doubt that they have the moral courage to take ANY stand in front of the american.

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Believe it when i see it

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america is boss of nato where france and other european countries are jee hujoors of america , till nato is in existence no body can ask questions or dictate terms , s.arabia is a slave of u.s.a. nothing is going to happen . soudis are not idiots they have a kingdom of their own and enjoying it why should they go to the way of bhookhe nange faqirs? fighting alqayada way killing innocents worldwide ?

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and then the alarm clock went on, and the analyst woke up, it was time for dawn prayers....

the least i see in this article is, a saudi can dream about standing for the rights!!! nothing more is there...

The day Saudi decides to go against the wishes of US, there will be nation wide demonstrations and Libyan episode will be replayed... and above that, all Saudi king can think of is how make life difficult for the people, count oil money and where to spend summer...

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Dreams are dreams ,no soudi is going to dream or make a dream in to reality. that country is full of money they are not fellow traveller of poor unfortunate muslims of pelestine.
NATO actively supporting and bombing gaddaffi loyalist force isn't it? writing on the wall for the time being is america will dictate till their is world wide opposition of USA by non NATOS , but this world is divided in poor and rich countries , those who have the capacity they are not going to fight for poor and loose the prosperity? so we stay as we are suffering.

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this is proof saudi is not islamic state, the real islamic state is the one that defends muslims not kill or oppress them!

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proof ? ha, who the hell is asking for proof ?, what will you do with proof ?
you may think it ,but they dont give a damn what you or others think , why ?
poor of the islamic countries go to them begging with folded hands for money , job, funds, alms, loans . remember they dont consider any body equal to them ,they consider every body a begger or third grade servant if you are from third world hardly matters you are muslim or kaffir . how come you pass judgement they are real muslim or not . come to the ground of reality from falls castles of theoretical equality of islamic countries ,every body is following his own agenda. every where taliban, alqayada, terrorists killing muslims you dont think they are muslims?

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Saudi dictators can not survive without American support. There is no way Saudis can oppose Israel in reality.

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Not just moral, they also don't have the financial courage to take a stand against America's illegitimate child in ME.

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^The family of Saud came into power with the aid of Britain that got the family of desert decoits -al Sauds- to over power Shah Hussein of Mecca in 1926 to come into power. Ever since there has been very little doubt as to who their loyalties belong to. King Faisal bin Saud tried to exercise a bit of discretion in policy making but his 'end' served as a reminder to the ruling family of who their real master was. Since that era the Sauds have relied on the Western imperial powers smore and more and to a point now where even a disagreement may as well translate into the end of the party for the ruling family. Very few people know or even care to know about the history. But more often than not past is where the roots of of the present lie.

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That is true. Faisal was duped by Bhutto, and ulimately both Bhutto and Faisal paid the price of their policies with their lives.
Today it is impossible for Saudis to go against American and Israeli wishes. That will be a death nail to their kingdom and the end of extremist ideology they propagate all over the world ... of which Pakistan is the biggest victim.

Actually, provided what this anti-Israel policy could potentially do to Saudis, I hope Saudis follow the advice this former ambassador is talking about.
I would LOVE to see Saudis go against Israel/ America.