Saudis Said to Aid Iraq War Extensively

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Could it be that the Saudi’s are waking up and realizing who their enemy is and who their friends is? Or something else?

Saudis Said to Aid Iraq War Extensively
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By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - During the Iraq (news - web sites) war, Saudi Arabia secretly helped the United States far more than has been acknowledged, allowing operations from at least three air bases, permitting special forces to stage attacks from Saudi soil and providing cheap fuel, U.S. and Saudi officials say.

The American air campaign against Iraq was essentially managed from inside Saudi borders, where military commanders operated an air command center and launched refueling tankers, F-16 fighter jets, and sophisticated intelligence gathering flights, according to the officials.

Much of the assistance has been kept quiet for more than a year by both countries for fear it would add to instability inside the kingdom. Many Saudis oppose the war and U.S. presence on Saudi soil has been used by Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to build his terror movement.

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Gee, didn't Ahmad Chalabi help us a lot too? I wonder what motivation the Saudis could have possibly had to help us get rid of Saddam??

This story is only making headlines in hope of distracting the more rabid right-wingers so they don't have time to understand the extent of Bush's relationship with the Sauds. Bush & Co are smart, they know their followers have the attention span of fruit flies.

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Read this article:

http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=146669

and u might, just might understand why saudis invested that much into overthrowing saddam. If u want to get rid of qaida, try getting rid of saudis - but then again, the battle is already lost, before it even begins.

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This is a classic case of what you call Treacheory, all those crocodile tears we saw from House of Saud and statements like "we feel for the people of iraq" yeah thats why they helped bomb them!

They Saudi royal losers had to be so covert and at the time they claimed they where not helping the amerikkkan terrorists from invading iraq, yet again this proved to be another lie from the house of saud or house of lies which ever you prefer.

The saudis are living on borrowed time with daily riots and dissent inland and pressure from US government outside

The saudis Royal losers are primed for an implosion this can only lead to a vacum which will be filled by sincere leadership that actually cares for the people and islam or yet another set of amerikkkan stooges!

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Saudi, Kuwait and Qatr have always been on the Americans side when attacking Iraq.

Has anyone forgotten the 1991 Sale of the these Souls to America?

'America helps you and you owe us for life via Trade, Oil, IMF, World Bank, Arms, Fundraising, Billion dollar direct and indirect debts, Land grab bases and Puppet Regime Implementation.

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Before I read what you wrote....

I was wondering....

If perhaps....

media generation to absolve the Saudi's from a bad reputation?

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Might that be why...

the al quaeda supposedly attacked Saud?

what I don't understand is why a there was a supposed terrorist plot on Jordan.

Why if the al quaeda love the muslims....

Why would they target thier own?

Even if upset about politica..

Why take a chance on killing a fellow?

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^avamericagirl

Governments are also known to instigate killings and bombs to justify certain policies and actions.

You have the CIA in the states with offices around the world how many bombs have they let off and how many assasinations do you think they have committed!

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*Originally posted by sholay: *
Saudi, Kuwait and Qatr have always been on the Americans side when attacking Iraq. .
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whose side was Iraq on when it attacked Kuwait?

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Fraudia

Saddam suspected the Kuwaitis of using new technologies to take oil from Iraqi fields. Iraq still considered Kuwait part of its own kingdom–the two areas had been artificially separated by British imperial officials in 1922–and wanted easy access to the sea for trade.

In July 1990 Saddam’s diplomats met with the U.S. Ambassador April Glasbie, who told them that Washington would take no position with regard to regional border disputes, a view that Baghdad reasonably assumed was a green light to enter Kuwait, which it did in August 1990.

After initial vacillation, President George Bush, bolstered by hawkish advice from British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who exhorted him not “to go wobbly,” declared “this will not stand,” and imposed sanctions and bought an international coalition to oppose Iraq.

Yes, we all know that Saddam was bedding U.S. prior to the Invasion of Kuwait. But as soon as Iraq became the enemy, the Magnificent Three started to asslick!

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sholay, whether or not US said that it would not interfere, was war the answer? blame this as much as u want on others but there would not have been a war had saddam not started, next you will blame iran-iraq war on the minister of sports of burkina faso or secretary of education of lesotho

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Fraudia

Sometimes you really disappoint me. Just when I think you might just have a valid point, you seem to drop a clanger.

Do you honestly believe that Saddam was acting without blessings from the puppeteer before falling out with him?

Iraq was on your countries side before it was given the green light to attack Kuwait. Similar to the Iran War. It was America, whether you like it or you don't that financed, funded and trained Iraqis for this War.
It is a bonafide fact that Saddam did not act on his own during the Kuwait invasion. Americans told him to.

You asked whose side was Iraq on before the Kuwait invasion. You've got your answer.

Not a conspiracy theory, but a set up to fail theory!

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The Gulf War was like offering a ton of candy to children!

Amerikkka could`nt wait to get into the middle east quick enough!

You cannot just absolve amerikka from any blame just look at there history of inteference,coups, killings and current policies in the middle east and it is clear cut what their intentions are

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*Originally posted by sholay: *
Do you honestly believe that Saddam was acting without blessings from the puppeteer before falling out with him?

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Yes, the blame for every stupid act of a "muslim" is to be laid at the feet of the americans. How convenient?

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Originally posted by sholay: *
**Fraudia*

yesh sholay..

Sometimes you really disappoint me. Just when I think you might just have a valid point, you seem to drop a clanger.

sholay, well atleast its only sometimes :0 wish I could say the same.

okay..the greetings out of the way lets look at the point..

There is a valid point, now this may not be the valid point you are looking for, but none the less it is a valid point.

Do you honestly believe that Saddam was acting without blessings from the puppeteer before falling out with him?

so he got the blessings,,ultimately it was his decision was it not. he made that decision, he could have gone with a diff plan..He chose not to. if someone wanted to use, him..he let himself be used..and actually he did not let himself be used..he sought approval for his actions, he should have known better.

*Iraq was on your countries side before it was given the green light to attack Kuwait. *

keyword "before" is duly noted..thank you.

*Similar to the Iran War. It was America, whether you like it or you don't that financed, funded and trained Iraqis for this War.
It is a bonafide fact that Saddam did not act on his own during the Kuwait invasion. Americans told him to. *

same excuses are given by people regarding afghanistan and Pakistan. did taleban have Pakistan's blessings, sure.. but did it mean that all that they did was not their own actions? come on

Did americans tell him to or did americans tell him that it was not a Us problem..but who ultimately took the action? iraq did, it could have chosen not to, no matter whose approval or buy-in it got.

You asked whose side was Iraq on before the Kuwait invasion. You've got your answer.

no no no no, see you have to stop this selective readin bit. I did not say whose side was iraq on "before" the kuwait invasion..but whose side was it on "when" it invaded Kuwait. You want to know the answer.. Iraq was on its own side..no matter whose blessings saddam got or did nto get, it was his decision to suit his interests.

*Not a conspiracy theory, but a set up to fail theory! *

So if he was such an idiot that he fell for it than his loss.. this whole bit about oh someone got used bit is old. countries need to look out for their interests and know what is in their interests and what is not. There is a limit to how much external parties can be blamed.

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*Originally posted by ak47: *
You cannot just absolve amerikka from any blame

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No.. okay here youi go poof i just did

seriouslythough, no US can not be absolved from having no part because of its policies, but atthe same time it can not be blamed fully everytime for everything as the sole responsible party like you do.

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The House of Saud is digging it's own grave. Directly helping Americans slaughter there own brothers in Iraq, thats as low as it gets. At one time they had some islamic legitimacy, now they are completely worthless. Allah will punish them for there actions.

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*Originally posted by Fraudz: *

No.. okay here youi go poof i just did

seriouslythough, no US can not be absolved from having no part because of its policies, but atthe same time it can not be blamed fully everytime for everything as the sole responsible party like you do.
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This thread shows clearly the treachery of Saud monarchy who have betrayed people of iraq not once but several times over. So amerikka is not solely blamed if you read my posts i will highlight the problems facing muslims as several including the puppet rulers from Saud monarchy to dictorships like uzbekistan and libya, the corrupt system implemented on muslims and also actions some muslims do themselves.

The amerikkans will get criticism because they intefere in muslim lands if they don`t intefere we have no issue with them.

So you are incorrect that i blame amerikka for every ill and every problem.

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Fraudia

Yes, I agree that Saddam should not of been so gullible and fell into the 'set up' trap.

But the reality is that he followed the same Fascist regime as Mussollinni and Hitler. If he had lived in the Spartica era, then maybe it would of been easier? Additionally, he also thought that the green ticket was guaranteed to him with no penalty clauses due to his past relationship with the U.S. This is where he got burnt. I think the U.S suffered a bout of rabies here!

Saddam should of known better. But, when a blind eye is being turned by your peers for so long within your own countries atrocities and undivided support is given to you against your neighbour in War. Then why wouldn't one feel so indispensable invading a land which he always believed to be part of his nation. No-one forced him, but thay damn sure edged him on.

Either way, Saddam got screwed and now it's only a matter of time before Saudi , Kuwait etc also get screwed, if not already done so!

Peace.