Saudis paid Davis' blood money?!

Speculations are rife that it was actually Saudis who worked on behalf of their masters, and used their influence to persuade Pakistan to agree to ransom.

Who wanted Davis back? America. And who was the guarantor and the mediator? Saudi Arabia. How did Saudi Arabia achieve this American objective in Pakistan? By using the Islamic-leverage; a strategy that Saudi Arabia has effectively applied since the Afghan-Soviet War in the 1980s. They have used the religious bent of the people of Pakistan and their sentimental attachment to the Prophet to help the US attain its foreign policy goals in Pakistan.

Raymond Davis is not only the murderer of two individuals, he is involved in espionage against the state of Pakistan. What right then did the Saudis have to arrange Davis’ return? Who were they to pay the blood money on America’s behalf? The sad truth is that we as beggars cannot be choosers.

The political hypocrisy of both the US and Saudi Arabia has never been more apparent than it is today. It is reflected in their responses to the peoples’ uprisings in North Africa and the Middle East. It is manifested in their prompt intervention in Bahrain and their delaying tactics in stopping the hand of Qaddafi. The Saudi role whether in Pakistan or Bahrain, has demonstrated how its monarchy works hand in glove with the US.

The question is how then do our mullahs find the Saudis to be the great upholders of the ultimate truth? Why are the Jamaat-e-Islami and the rest of the bearded lot only condemning America? Is the Saudi obsequiousness any different from Tony Blair’s catering to the fancies of George Bush?

The Taliban that have become the bane of our lives were manufactured by the military and mullahs with Saudi riyals. Why then do we consider them our benefactors? How is Saudi intervention in our internal matters any different from America’s violation of our sovereignty? The Saudis are as much responsible for what has become of Pakistan today as America and Pakistan’s security agencies. Saudi riyals have bought Pakistani vested interests with as much ease as US dollars.

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when a succession of your kings and caliphs routinely turn to the emperor in KSA for dole, arbitration, judgement and even refuge, what right do you have to complain when the emperor decrees as he wills? Pakistan wanted to be subject and became one!

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I am just amazed at the hypocrisy of religiously bent parties like Jamat and Imran Taliban. They are urging people to stand against Americans, but no word of condemnation to America’s slaves the Saudis, who played a critical role in Raymond’s release.


Saudi ambassador met with Rehman Malik about this case days. It shows Saudi involvement.

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/10-Mar-2011/Saudi-ambassador-comes-up-with-Raymond-offer

ISLAMABAD - Interior Minister Rehman Malik’s meeting with Saudi Ambassador to Pakistan Abdul Aziz bin Ibrahim al Ghadeer on Wednesday raised a question about the likely role of Saudi Arabia in the release of double murder accused US national Raymond Davis- a possibility which was also hinted at by the Prime Minister Gilani during a meeting with senior journalists in Lahore, the other day.
Informed insiders privy to this development shared with The Nation that the Saudi Envoy had offered to facilitate Umrah for the bereaved families who lost their family members at the hands of CIA agent Raymond Davis in cold-blooded murder saga on January 27 this year. The Interior Minister and the Saudi Envoy reportedly discussed the options to pave way for Raymond’s release. The possibility regarding the payment of heavy compensation to the families of Faheem, Faizan and Ibaad-ur-Rehman, in order to give Davis a safe passage, was also discussed by both the officials.

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This is still our government's fault for giving in so easily to US and Saudi.

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Nope. Financial conditions demand that we do as they say. Also, about Saudi Arabia, I've heard that they routinely give oil to Pakistan on deferred payments. Can anybody confirm this please? :)

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BS

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Actually no.

http://archives.dawn.com/archives/32748
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/47438-pakistan-saudi-factor.html
http://www.techlahore.com/2008/07/12/saudi-arabia-to-defer-6bn-of-oil-payments-for-pakistan/
http://www.techlahore.com/2008/11/07/4bn-saudi-oil-package-for-pakistan-finally-comes-through/

Saudis do give oil to Pakistan on deferred payments.

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You are forgetting army, ISI and Shahbaz the CM of the Punjab who actually freed him. But perhaps you are shy (or afraid) to say anything against the real power holders. Pakistan is governed by trioka, at top the military and two corners of pyramid are PPP supported by allies and mader pidar azad judiciary. Where is suo moto of CJ?

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No money was paid by KSA.
Local sources managed.

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Says who?
If they did not pay the money then how much was their involvement?

Read my next post.

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Saudis do give oil to Pakistan on deferred payments.
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This is done to keep Pakistan under tab.
America also gives aid to Pakistan for the very same reason.

Neither Saudis nor Americans give alms to Pakistan for the love of Pakistan. They do it for their own interests.

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This is from March 9 (before Davis’ release). It talks about plans to have Davis released based on Qisas and Diyat.

diplomatic sources confide Grossman raised the issue of Qisas and Diyat with the Saudi authorities on the sidelines of the ICG meeting. Spokesman at the US embassy not totally denying this says, “We are working with Pakistan to find a solution and resolve this matter but I could not tell you about (Grossman-Saudi meeting on Davis) and it would be inappropriate for me to comment”.

Intelligence sources confide to The News that the legal heirs of two men killed by Davis would find it difficult to refuse requests either by the Saudi officials or Saudi clergy and could be convinced.

“***But this also involves shifting these heirs outside Pakistan ***and providing them with a comfort zone including means of a livelihood. The blood money resolution would also ensure that abiding by the Islamic tradition there would be less public and politic pressure on the government”, says the official.


Siddiq Farooq of PMLN confirmed on March 17 that heirs were taken outside of Pakistan to Saudi to make payment. This is exactly as The News had reported on March 9.

Senior PML-N leader Siddiqul Farooq, while talking to this scribe, said that according to his knowledge, there were reports that the Saudi government played a vital role in the resolution of the Raymond Davis issue. Siddique said the heirs of both Faizan and Faheem were taken to Saudi Arabia and were paid most part of the agreed compromised amount. He said that rest of the amount was paid today (Wednesday) in the courtroom.

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How are you so sure? It looks like Saudis worked with PMLN govt to get him released.
Please read my post 11.


March 18.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/18/blood-money-was-paid-by-s-arabia.html

WASHINGTON: Saudi Arabia is believed to have arranged the blood money that allowed CIA contractor Raymond Davis to go home after nearly two months in a Lahore jail, diplomatic sources told Dawn.

The Saudis agreed to pay the money, “at least for now”, to get Davis released, the sources said, but did not clarify if and how would the Saudis be reimbursed.

On Thursday, the BBC quoted an official as saying the families received the money in Saudi Arabia as part of a deal brokered by the Saudi government.

CNN said the U.S. official did not rule out that possibility.

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That is true, starting from 80s Pakistan let Saudi Arabia turn us into proxy and ever since we couldn't free ourselves from that cr@phole, it was Saudis who rescued Nawaz Sharif so he (or any other Sharif) is never going to say 'no' to them.

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Rightly written … but … some Pakistanis are so brainwashed that they would never understand. Actually, many even think that Saudi King is next to ‘Allah’, such that, whatever Saudi King would tell them to do, from performing Eid to starting Jihad or accepting any particular Aqeedah as Islamic Aqeedah, they would say Labbaik (in other word, would say: ‘I am here my Lord’). These people should read what is written in the article (I am putting some of what is written down under), think … and if they would do so (think), they would find that whatever is written is true and they would realise how wrong is their blind beliefs on Shaitanic throne of Arabia.

**Who wanted Davis back? America. And who was the guarantor and the mediator? Saudi Arabia.**How did Saudi Arabia achieve this American objective in Pakistan? By using the Islamic-leverage; a strategy that Saudi Arabia has effectively applied since the Afghan-Soviet War in the 1980s. They have used the religious bent of the people of Pakistan and their sentimental attachment to the Prophet to help the US attain its foreign policy goals in Pakistan.
Raymond Davis is not only the murderer of two individuals, he is involved in espionage against the state of Pakistan. What right then did the Saudis have to arrange Davis’ return? Who were they to pay the blood money on America’s behalf? The sad truth is that we as beggars cannot be choosers.

The political hypocrisy of both the US and Saudi Arabia has never been more apparent than it is today. It is reflected in their responses to the peoples’ uprisings in North Africa and the Middle East. It is manifested in their prompt intervention in Bahrain and their delaying tactics in stopping the hand of Qaddafi. The Saudi role whether in Pakistan or Bahrain, has demonstrated how its monarchy works hand in glove with the US.

The question is how then do our mullahs find the Saudis to be the great upholders of the ultimate truth? Why are the Jamaat-e-Islami and the rest of the bearded lot only condemning America? Is the Saudi obsequiousness any different from Tony Blair’s catering to the fancies of George Bush?

**The Taliban that have become the bane of our lives were manufactured by the military and mullahs with Saudi riyals.**Why then do we consider them our benefactors? How is Saudi intervention in our internal matters any different from America’s violation of our sovereignty? The Saudis are as much responsible for what has become of Pakistan today as America and Pakistan’s security agencies. Saudi riyals have bought Pakistani vested interests with as much ease as US dollars.

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I said "Actually no" to Hareem. She said it was BS that Saudis give oil on deferred payments :)

I agree 100% with your next point. When will the Pakistani masses understand that Saudis aren't their "Muslim Brothers", just an American proxy?

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^ agreed about saudi intervention but this is also true that we involve them in our affairs, like even in this matter it was hussain haqqani giving the americans different ideas to resolve the issue...

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We do this because we continue to consider Saudis as our friends, and continue to overlook the extreme destruction Saudis have caused in Pakistani society.

Anyway, even if our incompetent governments do get Saudis involved in our own internal affairs, even then it does not let Saudis get away with repercussions of this involvement. Saudis should realize that when they agree to get involved in our affairs then they will be criticized and condemned by people of Pakistan for doing governments' dirty work.

In this particular case, Saudis worked on behalf of Americans. They did what America wanted. They actually helped America get their man after committing murder. Therefore** if Pakistanis are angry on American interference in Pakistan then they should be equally critical of supporters of America like Saudis.
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Unfortunately people condemn America but don't condemn American bit*h Saudis. That's where the hypocrisy of our politicians lies.

Today there are rallies against Davis' release by government, but nobody is saying anything about Saudis who played the most important role in releasing him. Ask this from hypocrites like Jamaate Islami, Imran Taliban Khan, and PMLN.

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Oh my days, those damn Saudis. :eek: And to think I’ve been all over the interwebz looking for the inside scoop.. only to find it here on GS. Thanks for enlightening us khoji.

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Sad to read your post, Kakey. No one in Pakistan thinks that the Saudi King Abdullah is next to Allah(SWT) but he is a generous man. If he paid to free Davis, there must have been a reason behind it(Maybe Davis embraced Islam- we don’t know anything). Saudis are our elder brothers and we should be willing to sacrifice for them when they ask. We share technology, Islam with them and they are our blood brothers.

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why does it matter who paid the money? the families got some compensation, RD is back home probably working a book deal, USA is happy they showed who is boss, PAk govt is happy because they can say the court decided, the courts are happy because they can blame the sharia and the clerics are happy because the court said sharia.

Amongst the population, those who follow the clerics will follow their above happiness, those who are religious but think for themselves (as well as those that are non-religious) know that there was and is no chance of further upsetting USA without catastrophic results for Pakistan...so they kind of knew this is the best course.

Nice win win deal - so why all the rabblerousing and talk revolution? except the Bengalis, there is no ability in the people of the sub-continent for revolution. It is just not in their genes