Saudis funding extremism terrorism etcism

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Moussaoui says Saudi princes backing AlQaeda in general.

Quicklink: Moussaoui Calls Saudi Princes Patrons of Al Qaeda | OpEdNews

Though he is able to point out only one backer, but it should be still an ‘eye-opener’ (not so, for many). Why is that Saudi is still an ‘ally’? Why is that they are still able to get support (moral), and not sanctioned by world (esp Muslims)?

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Its just a matter of time before they run into trouble they are inviting. They are equally responsible for muslim’s humiliation and disastrous situation as those doing it themselves.

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Its almost guaranteed as soon as they are about to dry out oil all hell will break loose :)

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Saudias turn will also come, slowly but surely.

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Who the hell is selling arms to these Saudi and Qatari princes? Ah, good old US and UK.

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Guess you don't have any relatives living in Saudi.

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Im sorry, all due respect, why would anyone want to live in Saudi ? I mean really, beyond ummrah, I cant imagine why anyone wanting to live in a desert state, where women are treated like children, and people are flogged and beheaded...

Unless your relatives have to live there for lack of options, I should hope they find a better more humane host.

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Found this interesting link:

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You'd be surprised. :)

I'm shocked that some people want Saudi to be taken over by ISIS because "it would serve them right"? You guys do realize that there are Shia Saudis, Sunni sufi Saudis, poor Saudis, and rich Saudis who don't agree with the harsh version of religion imposed on people by the royal family?

And not to forget the big number of immigrants and expats from almost every race and religion.

Seems like Pakistanis on this board have only one solution to every problem, to shout slogans of killing and ousting of people they don't like. Let's not get carried away with it!

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Yes. Some condone this "harsh version of religion" by supporting the 1000 lashes to be adminstered on a logger who dared to criticize the Saudi government.

All over the place, I tells ya

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Yeah but poor Saudis and Shia/Sufi Saudis dont have an option of living in any other country... Given an option, why would you want to live there ?

England, while non-Muslim is so much more "Islamic" in nature I think... I mean the values espoused by Islam, most are violated by these Saudis (talking in general). Just take the example of Mercy. Mercy AND FORGIVENESS are at the core of Islam, we start every chapter with it... And yet we would willingly live in a state that forgoes that value, in exchange for limitations on women's freedom and public beheading and lashes?!?!?

Seems no one feels they are living in a "Muslim state" until every woman is in a burka and people are being brutally punished in public.

But then again, maybe there is more to Saudi then meets the eye... But whats apparent on the surface is enough for me to not want to be seduced by whats beneath, lest I forget what was on the surface.

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Stop trolling and get a life.

baghal main churi, moon main ram ram.

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Seriously, living in Saudi is not as bad as you think. It's better than so many other countries.
Anyone who thinks Saudi should be taken over by ISIS is brainwashed bigot.

but yeah I wouldn't blame them...before spending 2 years in Middle East I used to think along the same lines.

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Obviously I dont believe anyone should be taken over by ISIS, (although I wouldnt mind if Saudis were taken over by someone with respect for human dignity and liberty).

The Saudi people may come in all shades, but their govt is barbaric and cruel. I find their treatment of women, their executions, their laws and their society generally to be grotesque. Its not about the people, its about their govt. The people may be lovely, but there is no way I can reconcile myself with a country that, for example, has beheaded almost a half dozen poor Pakistanis this year alone on drug possession.

You should be glad your a British citizen. I couldnt live in country that treats people like that. But to each his own.

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^Angola is worse than Saudi but no one talks about it...if I were to choose between the two countries I'd definitely choose Saudi. Everyone I know who's lived in Saudi (including non-muslim white Brits and Americans) don't have a problem spending couple of years in KSA. They have compounds with huge villas and all the comforts and luxury you can think of...and the Religious Police isn't allowed to enter any of these compounds. It's only when you're outside the vicinity you must observe the laws (no drinking, wearing burqa etc).

No matter how cruel the Saudi government is...it's keeping the country together. It's actually a very safe country. Besides, there are worse rulers and governments in the world. You may not want to move there but there are plenty who have established businesses and careers in KSA.

Guess we all have our priorities when it comes to choosing to move to a place...anyone who plans to smuggle drugs or write blogs against Islamic personalities and political Saudi figures should stay away from Saudi. Personally speaking , I would never move to countries with epidemics (mostly Africa), countries with xenophobic behaviour and totalitarianism like Sweden, and countries that don't allow parents to homeschool their children like Germany. And the war zones for obvious reasons.

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^Med911…before you think I’m arguing for the sake of arguing let me say that it’s always a pleasure exchanging views with you. :k:

Now before you go into a shock as most people do after learning my dislike and displeasure with Sweden…please read this recently published interview of a Brit who spent few years in Sweden and authored the book The Almost Nearly Perfect People.

Swede-bashing Brit tells why Sweden is like China - The Local

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Sweden is not xenophobic, but you can argue that Sweden has become increasingly islamophobic. Which is very unfortunate. But we have to look at the reason(s) behind why this has occurred. The influx of immigration in Sweden, from mainly muslim nations, has posed a few issues and challenges, which have largely been left unaddressed by the political parties and mainstream media. This has paved way for far right wing nutjobs to present these issues in the most vile and despicable manner, to increase hatred against the common muslim.

Just lately there was a case of 7-8 Somalians gang raping an ethnic Swedish woman. An incident which once again proved that you can not bring people from war torn countries with a diametrically different culture where misogyny is prevalent, and expect those people to easily integrate into a pluralistic and liberal society such as the Swedish one. This is not the only such incident involving Somalians, Iraqis and Afghanis in Scandinavia.

There is a pattern here, and the pattern is quite simple. Asylum seeking single males with muslim background are on top of sexual assault statistics in Sweden. What can be done about this, without discriminating all Muslim males?

This is an issue the major political parties have not addressed properly (in fear of being called racists), and there has been no clear opposition, who has called for solutions to this problem. This has lead to the rise of far right wing parties such as the Swedish Democrats, who are not interested in actually tackling the issue(s), but rather demonizing and dehumanizing the muslim population in general. Obviously they do their best to disguise their true agenda, and rather try to pose as a party which adheres to humane values, but just want to restrict immigration from non-western countries.

But all this still does not take away the fact that the Swedish society is still very tolerant, liberal and peaceful. Integration goes both ways. Its not only the governments job to integrate the immigrants. Many muslim immigrants downright refuse to be integrated into European societies, and they cause problems for the European societies and their fellow muslims. This is an issue which needs to be addressed, without generalizing and vilifying muslims as a group.

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Wouldn't it be better for the Saudis to look into why poor people from third world countries are smuggling drugs into Saudi Arabia, and on behalf of whom they are committing this crime, rather than merely beheading the drug mules? Saudi authorities refuse to address the core issue, because they know that will reveal the ugly truth about drug trafficking in Saudi Arabia.

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Saudi Arabia is not the only country that have death penalty for drug trafficking, right.
Capital punishment for drug trafficking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I only read this much so I'm quoting this much....well I would still take Booth's words over yours. You're expecting me to change my mind towards Sweden but you're not willing to change your views on Saudi. I'm not interested in questions as to WHY is the case in Sweden or WHY people smuggle drugs to Saudi or WHAT are the reasons for Sweden's modern totalitarianism! I'm looking at things as they are and how can we not hate on each other for those things. Every government or ruler or political ideology has some sort of problem...but you don't go around cursing and asking for the whole country to be taken over by a plague or terrorists. At least, educated people aren't supposed to act dumb. How are you guys any different to molvis asking for destruction of Jews and Christians?