You don't have to be prophet to know that oil will run out. I doubt the Saudis have a backup plan, and their brutal and oppressive regime will be overthrown.
By no power in your words ... but only by what Allah (SWT) ordains ...
P.S. It was not the oil part that I had a concern with ...
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moonshiner ur comments are very racist .....
in general i have seen ignorant shias being racist against arabs and ignorant sunnis exhibit racism against persians
as if shia sunni dispute is a arab - ajam conflict
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bro Psyah does the saudi royal family represent the true beliefs of Ahle-e-hadith ? I dont think so ....i am sure many of our brothers in ahle hadith will never be living like the saudi princes
My dear brother : i Belive u need to study becuase ,people of saudi arabia has fear or abul azeez dynasty:
If you believe or not, read history or just see Dr.shahid Masood, which is in the light HAdith and Quran, and other good schollars views are involved to descirbed that,ONE DAY IS NEAR WHERE PROPHET MOHAMMAD (PBUH) GRANDSON will come at the …Place of MUKAM -e-IBRAHIM,to annouced his presence,THese rulers will oppose him that they will be destroy with the will of ALLAH, when they approach Allah Opostle,
THAT MEANS THAT CURRENT RULER ARE NOT HAQ,they are BATIL
and INSHA ALLAH THESE WAHABIES WILL SEE END BEFORE END OF DAJJAL..
AMEEEN
ALLLAHOMA SALEHE ALLAH MOHAMMAD ,WA ALLA ALEHE MOHAMMAT
your name describes ur character as well..
do not judge people before u know them…
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everybody loves it when some muslim goes and destroys a Hindu temple or a Bhuddha statue ....so now watch and weep your own history getting pulverized by your own kings in Mecca.
Just like terrorism this also goes around and then comes around.
everybody loves it when some muslim goes and destroys a Hindu temple or a Bhuddha statue ....so now watch and weep your own history getting pulverized by your own kings in Mecca.
Just like terrorism this also goes around and then comes around.
We don't worship those places. We only worship Allah and Allah is enough for us.
We don't worship those places. We only worship Allah and Allah is enough for us.
It is more best if you read Quran: Where Allah says, obey Allah, his Opostle and those who are guided..
Then u will realize fact..
You people are blind believers and obey just Mulla , who do not have Knowledge like ur elders was illitrate
I did not ask you to substantiate the claim that sites were being torn down. I asked you to substantiate whether the sites being torn down are Islamic.
I didn't call them "Islamic sites," I called them "Islamic historical sites." I'm suggesting that these are sites of worship (though some are historic mosques), but they are undeniably historic landmarks of Islamic cultural heritage.
Their school is biased towards removing shirk over saving heritage, so we need to understand this position. We don't have to agree with it. Your position is that their action can only be evil, but this is wrong. You need to ask them why and hear their answers before passing judgement.
Their decisions don't just impact people of their school. If the goal really is just to "save us from shirk" (and not to expand their palaces and shopping malls), why don't they just appoint custodians at these sites to prevent any "suspicious" behavior? Why destroy priceless historic artifacts?
The fact of the matter is that those sites don't aren't the personal property of the Saudi family...they belong to the global Muslim community. For them to take such sweeping unilateral actions to "save us from ourselves" is absurd.
It is funny that you have given Paris as an example for your support of saving buildings, but I must again disagree that Paris is by far a reasonable comparison. Just do the research and see the numbers in Paris at any one time and also the logistical positioning of the sites that are historical.
And I will again point out that the developments taking place at the expense of these historic landmarks are well outside the budget of the vast majority of the hajis they're allegedly accommodating. Paris probably still needs more 5 star hotel rooms and luxury malls than Mecca during hajj season...and yet they have still managed to preserve the historical integrity of their city.
We don't worship those places. We only worship Allah and Allah is enough for us.
That's ok with me. My point was to those people who are crying here about Saudies blowing up your prophet's jananbhoomi etc and building parking lots there
I didn't call them "Islamic sites," I called them "Islamic historical sites." I'm suggesting that these are sites of worship (though some are historic mosques), but they are undeniably historic landmarks of Islamic cultural heritage.
Their decisions don't just impact people of their school. If the goal really is just to "save us from shirk" (and not to expand their palaces and shopping malls), why don't they just appoint custodians at these sites to prevent any "suspicious" behavior? Why destroy priceless historic artifacts?
The fact of the matter is that those sites don't aren't the personal property of the Saudi family...they belong to the global Muslim community. For them to take such sweeping unilateral actions to "save us from ourselves" is absurd.
And I will again point out that the developments taking place at the expense of these historic landmarks are well outside the budget of the vast majority of the hajis they're allegedly accommodating. Paris probably still needs more 5 star hotel rooms and luxury malls than Mecca during hajj season...and yet they have still managed to preserve the historical integrity of their city.
Please substantiate your claims
Nothing here is substantiated, it is your opinion only. Until then I will remain as neutral as possible.
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Perhaps we should use restraint and not do the name calling and passing judgements of who's a Kafir and and who's bound to Jannah.
Muslims, as an ummah, and as a people of the same faith, should display and practice unity.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, "There will come a time when the enemies of Islam will gather and invite each other to take over muslims as if one invites guests over food"...then Sahaba (May Allah be pleased with them) asked "Why O Prophet? Is it because muslims will be less in numbers" and the reply was "No! They will be huge in number. But they will be scattered like scum on ocean water, unable to do anything, so separated".
I see that happening now. We are constantly busy passing judgements and calling each other names. What we need to see through the veil of ignorance is that we are all muslims. If we don't join hands, put aside our differences, and reconcile. We will continue to suffer at the hands of others.
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Join hands for what? you are talking as if the problem of muslims is solely due to external factors and external enemies. Non-muslims get angry with muslims when some of the muslims start talhe only timeking about theirs being the only true religion and only true god etc.
And then when these nuts go do that in a non-muslim country, yeah sure they are going to get slapped around a bit
Other than that, the misery of muslims is 100% self made, internal and I am fast getting convinced, is intrinsic.
Look at the misery in Arabia - they have all the money in the world, hold the world ransom for energy and the power that comes with it - yet are they happy? . Saudi Arabia is just one example.
It has NOTHING to do with being ummah being splintered.
Join hands for what? you are talking as if the problem of muslims is solely due to external factors and external enemies. Non-muslims get angry with muslims when some of the muslims start talhe only timeking about theirs being the only true religion and only true god etc.
And then when these nuts go do that in a non-muslim country, yeah sure they are going to get slapped around a bit
Other than that, the misery of muslims is 100% self made, internal and I am fast getting convinced, is intrinsic.
Look at the misery in Arabia - they have all the money in the world, hold the world ransom for energy and the power that comes with it - yet are they happy? . Saudi Arabia is just one example.
It has NOTHING to do with being ummah being splintered.
Are you a muslim? Because in order for you to even comment on what Muslims should be doing, you ought to be a muslim yourself.
It's common sense. I wouldn't ask an auto mechanic to operate on a person. BTW, majority of muslims believe in the unity of all faithfuls as an ummah. I also quoted a hadith, any comment on that? :)
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Look, if you don't want me to I won't. It's not such a big deal for me. But why do I have to be a muslim to know what's wrong with them? does a doctor have to have cancer to b able to treat a cancer patient?
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No but it's a matter of faith and belief. Obviously if you don't believe in something, your view on it will be different. And i understand that.
The point i'm trying to make is, muslims were once an ummah. We strive to become united again. It's really not that controversial an issue. Islam preaches of Unity, Peace, Kindness and brotherhood. I don't see much of this being practiced. That's what i meant to convey in the post.
Not to be "up in arms" as you interpreted.
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I have some stuff to say here but will respect your wishes and refrain
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You may speak your mind. I have no issues with that; however, please don't pass judgements or make assumptions. That's all :)
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Ok I'll reframe my point in a non-judgemental form. How does a united ummah change the way the Saudi monarchy treat its people? This is important because in my opinion about a fourth of all of world's misery stem from that. As follows.
Saudi royals mistreat citizenry. To keep in power therefore, they need US help. The islamic fundos don't like US presence there, so they go bomb WTC and stuff. Then war on terror starts and the whole mess became messier.
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^I agree with you. I say muslims, themselves, have a lot of work to do.
If you think it's the muslims that put those royals up there to rule Saudi Arabia, it's not true. But their grip on power is firm and will not allow a change of the system. They take the decision and it becomes the law.
By unity i meant, unity among muslim factions such as Sunni, Shia, etc..etc... because what that will accomplish is, it will leave no reason to be fighting and killing each other.