"SAUDI is the Traitor of Islam" (Must Read)

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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@Wiseman

Ajmal, I came to World Affairs to talk with Isreali supporters who spew their hatred about oppressed muslims. What I see is your post which sounded very interesting. Though couple of things:

1) STOP posting the same crap again and again. 2) MMA, MQM and SSP are parasites that sucked the blood out of Pakistan for too long. 3) Saudi Arabia, their oil cashing fat king and all their wahabi Ulemas are WORTH nothing when it comes to muslims.

Their you go. If something else comes to mind I will say it. :)

Thanks for going through the article, I hope it can open our eyes :) Thanks for your advice too. I enjoy healthy negative criticism too and I'll be careful about not repeating myself.

I would **not **call MMA a parasite since it is doing a great work for our nation by uniting us. Again, you have a right to disagree with me. :)

The **SAUDI KING / CLERICS **are all paid in billions of dollars to defame our religion in the name of Islam. When it comes to practically defending Islam, these **SAUDI KINGS / CLERICS **are zero.

I just watched a press conference by King Abdul Aziz of Saudi. Its interesting to see him praising America in his English speech. One day later he criticized America in Arabic, just replacing the word "praise" with "criticize". What a big hypocrate (munafiq) SAUDI is!

[The_Voice]

Re: "SAUDI is the Traitor of Islam" (Must Read)

^^ MMA doing great work for our nation by uniting us????????You are obviously living in fools paradise

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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@The Voice

^^ MMA doing great work for our nation by uniting us????????You are obviously living in fools paradise

The Voice,

Elaborate your statement. Rather I have a better advice: Open a new thread about MMA in "Pak Affairs" and I can answer all your concerns.

Over here, stick to the main topic which is to unwrap the filth of SAUDI Clerics and ISRAELI govt Partnership!

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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@Captain1

so are the royal families in Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Egypt, Pakistan etc. Inodesia had shown better leadership, atleast their president (or was it PM?) criticised the wrong actions where they occurred without bowing down to powers around.

I totally agree with your statement about **Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain, etc **leadership.

A living proof of that hatred towards Islam was the stand Jordan,Egypt, and Saudi **took resisting Hamas and Hizbollah**. But the real culprit behind their backs are still **the SAUDI GOVT Paid **Mullahs who say what **the SAUDI **King ask them to say.

[The_Voice]

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Under islam, the people should obey their king no matter what he says or orders them to do, unless its something haram. so these saudi clerics r right in saying what the king orders them to. the real cuplirts r mullahs in pakistan who pollute peoples mind with extremist views and create prejudice against non-muslims

[Captain1]

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@Ajmal_farooqi

-->Moral of the story: "Boycott SAUDI Products" in addition to Jew Products like Coca Cola, BATA, Lever Brothers, etc.

You should also stop travelling in cars, bikes, buses because then you will be supporting the oil production from these countries, you should stop using plastic products which are manufactured using output of their oil industry, you should also stop consuming Pakistan products.

Where do you end up living after boycotting all this?

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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@The Voice

Under islam, the people should obey their king no matter what he says or orders them to do. so these saudi clerics r right in saying what the king orders them to.

So what would you do if the *Saudi Clerics **give fatwa to kill Bin Laden on orders **of SAUDI King? *

Or when the *SAUDI Mullahs **give fatwa to be on Israel's side on **SAUDI King's orders *(as they are doing right now)?

Would that be haram or halal for you then "The voice"?

Who would you follow then?

Scratching your head? Well, keep scratching, and when you are done, I'll tell you :)

[TUMS]

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Ajmal: Thanks for posting this.

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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jeo hazaron saal TUMS! I hope we all can enderstand whats going on in the world. Here is the equation in the easiest possible manner again:

ISRAEL + SAUDI = AMERICA

By the way, has anybody heard "The Voice"? Is he still scratching his head?;)

[kingomar]

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If i had my way i would start by jailing/hanging people like qazi hussain ahmed.
have you ever asked him where his son studies?

tell me of ONE single example where these morons did ANYTHING to improve the situation of people in pakistan...? any schools, daycare centres? any hospitals? any support for the orphans and widows? ANYTHING? thats right NONE-TENDO.

its Abdul Sattar Eidhi who deserves to be respected and followed, not qazi hussain ahmad who manipulates the ignorant and illiterate masses using relegion.

its imran khan who is honest and dedicated. he built a hospital. he refused to accept the prime ministership from the musharraf govt. because it went against his principles.

all qazi and his ilk want is political power. NOTHING ELSE.

FYI, people of jamati islami (should be called jamati shaitani) OPPOSED the creation of pakistan and called it "kafirstan". it was only in the 70's that the jamate shaitani issued an apology to the people of pakistan for opposing the movement.

and modoodi is the biggest of all shaitans. may he burn in hell*.*

"Under islam, the people should obey their king no matter what he says or orders them to do, unless its something haram. so these saudi clerics r right in saying what the king orders them to. the real cuplirts r mullahs in pakistan who pollute peoples mind with extremist views and create prejudice against non-muslims"

WHAT IF its something MAKROOH. should they do it?

since WHEN islam supports Monarchy?

it says in the Holy Quran, "when the Kings enter a village, they destroy it." what do you decipher from this Ayah?

people are supposed to "elect" a khalifa, and if the majority agrees on him, he gets to rule as long as the mojority supports him. refer to the election of Sayyiduna Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radiallah anhu) in specific.
also the election of Sayyiduna Hadhrat Umar al Farooq (radialla anhu), Sayyiduna Uthman al Ghani (radiallah anhu), Sayyinduna Imam Ali al Haider al Murtaza (radiallah anhu) and Sayyiduna Imam Hassan bin Ali (radiallah anhu). the majority of muslims agreed on their rules. and those who diagreed with the majority, well, you know what they're called and who they are.

[CheGuvera]

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@Captain1

every now and then someone rises and claims MQM is brelvi org, MQM is deobandi org, MQM is shia org, I’m waiting for someone to come and say MQM is ahmedi org. MQM is now becoming the blame-all party for some people to vent their anger.

The other blame party: Jews.

Nobody has suggested that MQM is a deobandi organization…so lets not convolut things by throwing in the equal opportunity labels for MQM…MQM is identified with a certain groups and it is these groups only that they are labelled for…shias and barewlis are most the prominent ones…

[CheGuvera]

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A lot of supporters of MQM and other Islam hating individuals on this board are extremely surprised and dismayed that the late Allama Turabi was a member of MMA...Cause for them the best situation is where there is a prennial rift between shias and sunnis...

[sholay]

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Getting back to the topic. The Saudi leaders and the majority of all Muslim leaders are like toothless dogs. Unfortunately, they cannot even bark, let alone bite. Does this eqaute to Traitors to Islam. Yes.

Most of them are concerned about keeping their positions, and are thus pre-occupied with planning a way to keep hold of their jobs in case they speak out against their 'all mighty master'.

Once they are confident and comfortable with their positions, they will make an announcement and consider taking action on the Israeli/Lebanon issue...... hopefully by 2010, when all is done and dusted!

[Debater]

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It seems this forum is run by shias that is why bashing Salafis or Wahabis is the fashion and showing mirror to shias is banned.
My question is why MA MOOLI deleted all my posts and a thread in reply to shias' propaganda in this forum?

[Captain1]

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@CheGuvera

Nobody has suggested that MQM is a deobandi organization...so lets not convolut things by throwing in the equal opportunity labels for MQM...MQM is identified with a certain groups and it is these groups only that they are labelled for...shias and barewlis are most the prominent ones...

lets focus on the issue at hand and keep MQM bashing for Pakistan Affairs.

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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@Captain1

lets focus on the issue at hand and keep MQM bashing for Pakistan Affairs.

Roger that! Captain.

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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@sholay

Getting back to the topic. The Saudi leaders and the majority of all Muslim leaders are like toothless dogs. Unfortunately, they cannot even bark, let alone bite. Does this eqaute to Traitors to Islam. Yes.

Most of them are concerned about keeping their positions, and are thus pre-occupied with planning a way to keep hold of their jobs in case they speak out against their 'all mighty master'.

Once they are confident and comfortable with their positions, they will make an announcement and consider taking action on the Israeli/Lebanon issue...... hopefully by 2010, when all is done and dusted!

That is such a great Analysis brother! You have presented such a true picture of *SAUDI FILTH *. Please save your quote, its a gem.

May Allah bless you!

[mawarid]

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@kingomar

If i had my way i would start by jailing/hanging people like qazi hussain ahmed. have you ever asked him where his son studies?

tell me of ONE single example where these morons did ANYTHING to improve the situation of people in pakistan...? any schools, daycare centres? any hospitals? any support for the orphans and widows? ANYTHING? thats right NONE-TENDO.

its Abdul Sattar Eidhi who deserves to be respected and followed, not qazi hussain ahmad who manipulates the ignorant and illiterate masses using relegion.

its imran khan who is honest and dedicated. he built a hospital. he refused to accept the prime ministership from the musharraf govt. because it went against his principles.

all qazi and his ilk want is political power. NOTHING ELSE.

FYI, people of jamati islami (should be called jamati shaitani) OPPOSED the creation of pakistan and called it "kafirstan". it was only in the 70's that the jamate shaitani issued an apology to the people of pakistan for opposing the movement.

and modoodi is the biggest of all shaitans. may he burn in hell*.*

"Under islam, the people should obey their king no matter what he says or orders them to do, unless its something haram. so these saudi clerics r right in saying what the king orders them to. the real cuplirts r mullahs in pakistan who pollute peoples mind with extremist views and create prejudice against non-muslims"

WHAT IF its something MAKROOH. should they do it?

since WHEN islam supports Monarchy?

it says in the Holy Quran, "when the Kings enter a village, they destroy it." what do you decipher from this Ayah?

people are supposed to "elect" a khalifa, and if the majority agrees on him, he gets to rule as long as the mojority supports him. refer to the election of Sayyiduna Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radiallah anhu) in specific. also the election of Sayyiduna Hadhrat Umar al Farooq (radialla anhu), Sayyiduna Uthman al Ghani (radiallah anhu), Sayyinduna Imam Ali al Haider al Murtaza (radiallah anhu) and Sayyiduna Imam Hassan bin Ali (radiallah anhu). the majority of muslims agreed on their rules. and those who diagreed with the majority, well, you know what they're called and who they are.

Well said. Shows what type of Filth the Jammat is. A true gem.

[Ajmal_farooqi]

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Brother Mawarid,

Please stick to the main topic that is to expose the SAUDI Clerics / Israeli govt filth **based on **fatwas of our respected Mufti Goma from Jama-Al Azhar.

If you need to discuss our Jamat's policies, open a new thread in Pak Affairs.

Now Relax :)

[mawarid]

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Brother farooqi

You are the one who has been brandshing the jammat as the best thing since sliced bread. I agree with you we should expose all the filth in Islam including the jammat. Or are you afraid that their filth which is well known anyway will coem out in these forums as well. A true muslim will never follow shaitans like Qazi.