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i hate the saudis they are big time hipocrits and they make laws different to their selves and different to foreigners. they love western way of life. they are truly racists to pakistanis. i used to know a few arabs saudi and morrocan and they used to gossip a lot against pakistanis. i used to spike their tea and food with all sorts of things when they ordered us around at a uk markazh. ha ha
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does that make you a better person?
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With you, the above act is pretty sick...... :-(
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true.
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They do issue nationality to husbands guys. I know such couples.
I'm not sure though if there are any other conditions involved such as abandoning previous nationality or a certain period's stay in the KSA before being eligible.
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Bohras are a sub-sect of Ismailism which in turn is a sub-sect of Shiahism.
I don't know about their beliefs but they look more Muslim than Agha Khani Ismailis.
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hahahahaha, at markaz as well, toba.
my mirpuri friends' uncle was a business partner with a morrocan and he said they were a bit racist, he's a bit thick is my mate so i had to teach him a few juicey racist slurs to use against north africans. the only decent arabs ive met are black arabs, like somalians and stuff, all the rest have been snooty bstrds.
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i have had no probs with somalians i feel safe with them. them morrocons especially northern africans they are devious. these guys prey 5 times a day. smile at fellow muslims with their big wide fake grins. then they stab them in the back.
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I don't know about their beliefs but they look more Muslim than Agha Khani Ismailis.
The administration (Ayub Khan et all) didnt brand Ismailis as kafirs cuz they have lotta money and are very peaceful, nice ppl.. there were talks in 70s to deport them to Iran along with Qadianis to India. A lot of my friends back in Lahore dont invite them to any functions etc.- sad indeed :(
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I don't think Iran would have been such a good idea because Iranians are 12er Shiahs and they also consider Ismaelis to be Kaafir.
Qadianis are also very peaceful and loaded but that doesn't mean we start ignoring their beliefs and calling them Muslim.
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Qadianis are also very peaceful and loaded but that doesn't mean we start ignoring their beliefs and calling them Muslim.
I wonder how Qadianis claim they have 20 million followers.. Someone who doesnt believe in finality of Prophet(PBUH) isn't a muslim for sure... but I am not sure you know this, outside Pakistan they claim they are muslims.
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All Saudis should be deported from Saudi Arabia. The land should be re-populated by Pakistanis since Pakistan has nukes to protect the holy sites.
Saudi women should be left behind to cohabitate with Pakistani men and their families.
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Saudis ‘humiliate’ Pakistanis.. a Gujrati from Bharat shows his concern by posting a thread here. 
Such slippery people.
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A salient point amorphous. Its mainly the hindus(could be jews but thats conjecture) that are trying to divide us. You'll never see a pakistani muslim post news of this sort.
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Syed, even if the poster were Pakistani, it wouldn't make any difference. Pakistan and KSA will continue to enjoy good relations. KSA has been a very strong friend of Pakistan, and Pakistani establishment/people fully understand that. There can be bad Pakistanis and bad Arabs. But what surprises me the most is that a person from Gujrat is sooo worried about the treatment Pakistanis are receiving in KSA. :)
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Arabs, including Palis and Iraqis, are generally racists towards south asians.
But then some of us are racist against people from baangladesh, right?
But do not be misled. I will still protest opression of any kind, especially against muslims. So, the news of mistreatment of pakis by arabs doesnt change my sympathy towards dying Iraqis and palestianians one iota. It only makes my attitude towards individual arabs suspicious when i befriend them.
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Yes, you should be suspicious. They ask for homework help a lot. :D
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Once again NJ showed his true intention of posting on this forum.
Bring the inflammatory posts and have fun with it.
Hindus also have hatred against each other and for example southern is ready to annhilate north and vice versa but he posted an article and few people started a dogfight for everyone's 'entertainment'.
No one is superior or inferior. Any sort of power in this world makes one person to mistreat other. Arabs are mistreated all over the world (read the world media) and they mistreat greedy indians and Pakistani. In west arabs are treated same as they treat non-arabs in their land!
The article is about Hajis and they get bad and good treatment alike. Depends on individual scenario.
Why do people in Pakistan ready to sell their daughter of young age is my question!!!? Who is to be blamed here? i remember in 80's two young girls died afer spending time with an arab in Pakistan village when they dropped them into the hospital (Jang News of one paragraph in innerside page).
Their parents complained to the local authorties for this 'injustice' with no answer since the culprits were some sort of prince. So why should anyone cry if these people are greedy? I am pretty sure these kind of activities happen in other poor countries by rich people.
In this kind of scenario, everyone is to be blamed and people have forgotton simple moral, ethical and islamic teachings.
*We still cannot generalize people since ill-treatment of people, rape and murder happens EVERYWHERE in the hands of EVERYONE. *