Saudi Arabia's Pokemon Fatwa!

Saudi Arabia’s Pokemon Fatwa

Saudi Arabia’s Higher Committee for Scientific Research and Islamic Law recently issued a fatwa, or religious ruling, banning Pokemon games and cards, saying they have “possessed the minds” of children, promote Zionism and involve gambling.

It said the video game and cards have symbols that include “the Star of
David, which everyone knows is connected to international Zionism and is
Israel’s national emblem, as well as being the first symbol of the
Freemasons.”

Whilst there may be some good in the fatwa it seems yet again that Fatwas are only reserved for these types of minor issues.

If one is really worried about Zionism then surely the best Fatwa to issue is to say, “Peace with Israel is Haram and it constitutes an act of a Munaafiq”. They could then sit back and observe how the usually silent “scholars” in Al Azhar and Jordan become vocal, as Egypt and Jordan both have full diplomatic links with Israel.

If Saudi is really worried about the influence upon the children, then they need look no further than the penetration of Western culture in the Arab society. Only recently a Gay club in Dubai was closed down after the authorities discovered certain leaflets. However such diabolical corruption must exist for the events to be taking place in the first instance. Such acts are ridiculous not only for Muslims and non-Muslims alike but even animals!

But there were no Fatwas or arrests taking place. Every year so many of our children are sent to these countries to acquire “Education” without us examining what type of values are being acquired as a result. No wonder Gay clubs are attempting to be established in the heart of the Islamic world. Carefully devised policies (in accordance with Quran and Sunnah) rather than gesture type Fatwas in these arenas would be far more useful to protect the minds of our children and societies.

Source: www.khilafah.com

Saudi and their fatwa's, this clearly shows that the saudi govt and their so called scholars, know little or nothing about islam.While the muslim ummah is being tortured and starved to death,the saudis are issuing pity fatwas of pokeman, which is not that dangerous to the muslims. They need to issue fatwas aganist the zionist and the west who resonisble for their creation instead of worrying about kids cartoons.

You might want to take a look at a previous discussion, http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/002673.html

yeah.. it's ok for the Jews to kill muslims but you can't watch zionist cartoons.

Get real

About time these hypcrite leadrers get removed and be replaced by true islamic learders!

The fardh to remove these leaders lands on the Muslim Ummah.

Agree with you 100%, its elmo.

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[This message has been edited by Shakir75 (edited April 25, 2001).]

Yeah replace them !!! with whom?
People (like me and you) who are in western world talking and showing their anger.. but when it comes to reality they would never go back to face the challenges..

instead of facing the problem, escape from that place. Thats what We do!!!

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Originally posted by scarface:
The fardh to remove these leaders lands on the Muslim Ummah.
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Originally posted by MuhammedAliBarlas:
** Yeah replace them !!! with whom?
People (like me and you) who are in western world talking and showing their anger.. but when it comes to reality they would never go back to face the challenges..

instead of facing the problem, escape from that place. Thats what We do!!!

**
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well said... It is true, all we do is talk and not much else...

Salaam,

Brother it depends what you talk about remember a nation with lots of wealth what is that nation if it has no direction in life, it is like a person without direction like the kafir’s no matter how much money they have they will never be tranquil.

So the best possible wealth for any country is the intellectual wealth without which a nation cannot move in any direction and remains directionless so just look at our ummah over 56 Muslim countries yet unable to liberate Palestine or Kashmir and that’s what I call directionless, so talking can do a lot it depends what you are talking about.

Especially if it is the sunnah of the prophet (saw) for the first 13 years in makkah Muhammad (saw) did just that and look what happened there is no evidence to indicate that Muhammad (saw) used force of any kind, only when the state was established did Muhammad (saw) go to fight badr after receiving revelation from Allah (swt), so lets keep in mind that it is this talking that has rocked the kings off their thrones and forced ex pm’s like benazir bhuto to write articles on khilafat and forced the governments to address this issue until it becomes a discussion point to which the ummah realises that khilafat is the only way prescribed by Islam, we shall not stop this da’wa.. ahhmeeen….

Ws salaam
Muhammed kauser
(College lecturer) www.khilafah.com.pk

Yes well said Muhammed K, the method to replace these rulers with the islamic system and rulers should be the same method that the Prophet Muhammed(saw) used.

Wow..what's next, a fatwa against the tooth fairy?

I have to agree with Info man on this.

Issuing a fatwa against something that is just a fad and will eventually die out and be forgotten is unneccesary. I can't help but think that it is a diversionary tactic...from all the domestic problems the Saudi's are having. Tsk tsk tsk...

Salaam,

A nation without correct Islamic thought and practically applying that thought is like a body without a soul.

Muhammed kauser www.khilafah.com.pk

Its not just replacing the leaders it replacing the system as well because you have to understand that it is the system that produces such individuals.

The issue of just talking. Its quite sad that many Muslims belittle intellectual struggle to just talking. Would you say that to the Prophet (saw) and his Sahabas(ra) who spent 13 years in Makkah speaking out against the munkar in the society to change the thoughts and emotions of the people in favour of Islam?

Salaam,

I recommend all brothers to read any good seerah books to see the first 13 years of Muhammad (saw) in makkah from there you will se that it is the sunnah of Muhammad (saw) to talk but the problem is not talking its what are you talking about i.e it must be from Islam every step of the way and must be to do with reviving this ummah.

Muhammed kauser www.khilafah.com.pk

salaam,

article taken from khilafah.com

Saudis open a can of words

Cracking down on corruption can produce a host of new problems, as Brian
Whitaker explains

Many people in Dubai were shocked this week by news that the Gulf emirate’s
head of customs had been arrested on corruption charges, along with two of
his most senior aides.
The shock is not that the three men are accused of systematically creaming
off tens of millions of dollars in bribes but that the crown prince, after a
two-year investigation, has cracked down on such prominent officials.
Dr Obaid Saqr bin-Busit, the customs chief, is not only a well-known figure
in Dubai, but also a man of some standing internationally: last July he was
elected chairman of the Brussels-based World Customs Organisation for a
three-year term.
In the Middle East, people are accustomed to a certain flexibility when it
comes to customs duties and almost any other kind of government-imposed
restrictions.
People who belong to important families often regard themselves as above the
rules, while others with less influence but sufficient money can have the
rules bent by paying officials.
Occasionally, however, something disrupts this cosy little system.
Last summer, for instance, customs officials in Bahrain searched the cargo
of a plane that was about to leave for Saudi Arabia. It belonged to a Saudi
prince and, by the rules of Gulf etiquette, the officials had no business
prying.
Apologies followed and the plane took off, somewhat later than scheduled.
But what the customs officials had found was interesting: 200 cases of
whisky that, in the puritanical kingdom, could be sold under the counter for
around $300,000 (£206,033).
In most countries, customs officials would probably not insist on kings,
presidents, popes and prime ministers opening up their bags for inspection,
but in Saudi Arabia and much of the Gulf, the number of VIPs who expect
special treatment is enormous.
There are, for a start, about 5,000 Saudi princes. It is difficult to see
why they should all be entitled to royal privileges and why anyone should be
spared the indignity of a search simply because they are in the entourage of
someone who happens to be 4,723rd in line to the throne.
The justification for these privileges is closely linked to the concept of
honour - an essential part of Arab culture. To check a VIP at an airport for
concealed weapons or contraband is to call into question his honour, even
though there is ample evidence that such privileges are sometimes abused.
The hijacking of a Saudi plane to Baghdad last October may be a case in
point.
Although the details are still unclear, it appears that the hijackers took
advantage of the double standards applied in security checks to get their
weapons on board.
A further window into this murky world of privilege and bribery has been
opened up by the arrest in Saudi Arabia of some 15 foreigners who are
variously accused of alcohol offences, terrorism and murder.
Three men - a Briton, a Belgian and a Canadian were recently paraded on
Saudi television confessing to two car bombings last November that killed
one Briton and injured several others.
Five Britons and four Americans (including one with intelligence
connections) are among the others detained for alleged alcohol offences.
With the possible exception of three Americans, all appear to know each
other and to have been involved, one way or another, in a series of illicit
drinking dens in the capital, Riyadh.
The Saudi interior minister, Prince Nayef, has been at pains to point out
that no Saudis are involved.
The basic outline of the case (according to the Saudis) is that here were a
group of foreigners engaged in illegal alcohol activities who got into some
dubious business transactions - buying and selling stakes in their drinking
dens - then fell out and started attacking each other.
The televised confessions were certainly odd enough to cast doubt on their
veracity but, either way, there is plainly a lot more to the story than has
so far been disclosed.
Prohibition of alcohol - as the US found in the early years of the 20th
century - is extremely difficult to enforce, even in a puritanical country
such as Saudi Arabia.
The country’s economy depends on foreign workers - labourers from poor
countries in Asia and Africa, but also skilled westerners. Many of the
westerners are happy to go there, attracted by generous tax-free salaries,
or seeking to escape debts or personal problems back home.
There are around 25,000 Britons living and working in the kingdom.
Discouraged from mixing with the Saudis, they live in compounds with other
expatriates and quickly become bored, drinking to pass the time.
Possibly the illegality of alcohol in the kingdom adds a certain frisson of
excitement that is not to be found by visiting a pub in Britain.
The Saudis, meanwhile, recognise that it’s necessary, up to a point, to
tolerate these western habits.
Although the religious police (the mutawwa) take a much tougher line than
the ordinary police, the general approach is not to persecute drinkers who
keep their activities to themselves and don’t attract attention.
But this raises the question of how to keep such large numbers of foreigners
supplied with illegal alcohol. At one level, there is home brewing and some
distilling, but that is basically a cottage industry and not enough to meet
the demand.
Smuggling of spirits - mainly whisky and gin - has become big business and
most of it is said to pass through customs under the protection of royal
privilege.
Successful smuggling also depends on the existence of a distribution system
and retail outlets - all of them technically illegal in the kingdom.
What began with private drinks parties in people’s homes therefore
developed, eventually, into commercial-scale establishments resembling what,
in Britain, would be regarded as pubs or clubs.
The man credited with turning illicit drinking dens into a business is a
Briton called Gary Dixon (also known as Gary Lyons and Gary O’Nions), who
has just completed a short jail sentence in Dubai for crossing the border
illegally and is now awaiting extradition back to Saudi Arabia.
Although his Empire Club in Riyadh was busted three times by the religious
police over a period of six years, Mr Dixon appears to have led something of
a charmed life in Saudi Arabia.
Former members of the club believe this was because his Saudi sponsor and a
senior police officer received a share of the profits from the club.
During his enforced leisure in Dubai, Mr Dixon wrote a book about his
exploits on scraps of paper which have now been smuggled back to Britain,
and he is looking for a publisher.
This may well cast light on matters reaching far beyond Saudi Arabia’s
expatriate community.
In the meantime, Prince Nayef’s claims that the alcohol-and-bombs affair
involves only foreigners is beginning to look a little thin. The arrests
have certainly opened a can of worms.
The question now is whether the prince will proceed to a more far-reaching
clean-up, with all the embarrassment that that entails, or whether he will
take the easier course and slam the lid back on.

source: www.khilafah.com

lol .. Infoman - you just never know…

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[This message has been edited by Nadia_H (edited May 07, 2001).]

In my opinion, the Saudi Arabian government has sufficient problems of its own that it should be worrying about, rather than issuing fatwas against cartoon characters. It could start with the issue of giving all females the rights that they, living in an Islamic country, are entitled to. Another area of concern should be minimizing (and eventually eliminating) the degree of dependence Saudi Arabia has upon the US - militarily as well as financially. The number of US troops stationed in Saudi Arabian bases - from where they enforce an embargo against Iraq that is daily claiming the lives of hundreds of Iraqi children - should be one area of concern. Why is it not?

S. Arabian governmental officials might also consider looking into the level of corruption within their own system. A country as financially rich as S. Arabia, should consider it an obligation to be assisting people in countries such as Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. etc., and not fighting against Pikachu, Charmander, and other such cartoon characters.

Finally - the S. Arabian government could also take a serious look into how it treats foreign labourers. Annually, thousands of workers from India, Bangladesh, the Phillipines, Pakistan, etc., arrive in Saudi Arabia; many of these workers take up positions considered 'low', and are treated despicably. Philipino domestic workers, for example, are routinely raped or otherwise abused. Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi construction workers are forced to work for extremely low wages - if they are paid at all. Unless I am mistaken, there is a saying by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that the labourer should be paid before the
sweat dries from his brow. I find this a beautiful statement, representative of the fairness and kindness in Prophet Muhammmad (PBUH); how wonderful it would be if, instead of fighting against imaginary 'Zionist forces' as represented by cartoon characters, S. Arabia would actually practice what Islam mandates.

When I first heard about S. Arabia issuing a fatwa against anything that is Pokemon-related, I wasn't sure whether to laugh or throw up. Unless and until females in S. Arabia are not denied the rights that Islam gives them, seriously where is the benefit in issuing fatwas against cartoon characters? Tragically, it makes them - and then by extension other Muslims - look ridiculous.

[This message has been edited by Nadia_H (edited May 07, 2001).]

salaam,

Not to mention that u.s troops in al-hijaaz is haram from Islam, if they care about Zionism then work to get rid of the real Zionists the illegitimate state of Israel.

ws salaam
muhammed kauser
please visit www.khilafah.com.pk