Saudi Arabia Rejects Seat on U.N. Security Council and Confuses Everyone

I guess they refused the UNSC’s seat because they could not use it to export terrorism.

Saudi Arabia Rejects Seat on U.N. Security Council and Confuses Everyone | TIME.com

On Thursday, the 193 countries making up the U.N. General Assembly held a secret ballot to select new members of the Security Council. Each year, the Assembly elects five new countries to serve two-year rotating posts; competition is keen, and countries lobby years in advance for a seat at what remains the highest table in international politics.

In one round of balloting, the five countries rotating off*–Azerbaijan, Guatemala, Morocco, Pakistan and Togo–were replaced by Chad, Chile, Lithuania, Nigeria and Saudi Arabia. There was a hearty round of applause and some criticism of human rights records, but otherwise little in the way of surprises from the annual election.

Less than 24 hours later, Saudi Arabia announced it was rejecting its coveted seat on the Council, an unprecedented move that shocked the diplomatic community. Its diplomats cited the Council’s inability to take firm action on the current crisis in Syria (ostensibly the fault of vetoes from Russia and China) and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (ostensibly the fault of the U.S.). “The manner, the mechanisms of action and double standards existing in the Security Council prevent it from performing its duties and assuming its responsibilities toward preserving international peace and security as required,” the Saudi Foreign Ministry said in a statement. “Allowing the ruling regime in Syria to kill its people and burn them with chemical weapons in front of the entire world and without any deterrent or punishment is clear proof and evidence of the U.N. Security Council’s inability to perform its duties and shoulder its responsibilities.”

The rejection was especially surprising because Saudi Arabia had lobbied for the seat and reportedly given its diplomatic staff special training on Security Council procedures. A seat on the Security Council, in addition to giving a country a measure of prestige, allows them to be in the room for crucial votes, an opportunity no nation has ever turned down in recent times.

“There’s really no precedent for this in the council’s history,” says David Bosco, assistant professor of international politics at American University who writes frequently about the U.N. To find a historical example, you have to go back to 1950. That year, the Soviet Union proposed expelling the Nationalist Chinese representative and recognizing the People’s Republic of China as the true Chinese government. When the proposal was defeated, the Soviets boycotted the Council and missed out on the chance to veto military action in Korea. The Soviets later rejoined the Security Council. “Countries think that being on the Security Council is worthwhile, that they get some influence,” Bosco says. “And they do–they get some influence. It’s perplexing.”

The announcement was also out of character for the Saudis themselves. “It runs very much against their style in foreign policy, which tends to be more low key, less public, more working behind the scenes,” says F. Gregory Gause, III, a political science professor at the University of Vermont who specializes in the international relations of the Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia. “Why not withdraw your candidacy before? To go and get elected and then turn it down, it’s very puzzling.”

For decades, Gause explains, the Saudis preferred to move behind the scenes. But in the past 10 years, Riyadh looked around the Middle East and saw that no other country could stand up to Iran, whose Shi’ite revolutionary government is ideologically anathema to the deeply monarchical, Sunni orthodox Saudis. They became much more public in pushing back against Iran in the region and took a leadership role that was, in many ways he says, uncomfortable for the Kingdom. The effort to gain a seat on the Security Council seemed like it was part of that shift.

The Saudis noted their objections to the Council’s handling of the Syrian civil war, but it’s hard to tell why Riyadh chose this time and this issue to protest. “Foreign policy is always a very personal thing, because it’s held by the chief executive,” Gause says. “It’s different from domestic politics. That’s just as true in Saudi Arabia as it is in the United States. The King calls the shots.” King Abdullah has a very experienced hand in Foreign Minister Saud Al Faisal, who has served in that position since 1975, making him the longest-serving foreign minister in the world. “He’s a really professional diplomat,” Gause says. “It’s not like him to fly off the handle. It’s possible that the king decided that a strong statement needed to be made because he’s very upset about the violence in Syria. But one wonders if the temporary focus that Saudi Arabia gets by doing this is worth giving up a seat on the Security Council where at least they’d have some voice in resolutions on Syria.”

The Saudis’ other chief complaint were the rules governing the Council. Under its current structure, where the five permanent members (the U.S., U.K., France, Russia and China) can veto resolutions, the ten rotating members have much less power, and those countries have felt marginalized. This is a gripe shared by the rest of the non-veto-wielding international community. But just by being on the Council, a country can have influence. A member can call special meetings, and the presidency of the Council rotates every month, so a country can push an issue that might not otherwise be discussed. “Occasionally, if it does come down to a close vote on the Security Council, every vote counts,” Bosco says. “The non-permanent members can be influential.”

What happens next is a bit of a mystery. The General Assembly could declare that the seat belongs to the Saudis and the Security Council will meet with only 14 members present. In 1950, there were six rotating members, and until the Soviets returned, the Council met with 10 members and one empty seat. The Assembly could also hold another vote and the Asia-Pacific Group, which includes nations from the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia, would nominate a new member. Because most countries stood down their lobbying efforts and deferred to the Saudis, a new election for the seat could be a bit of a free for all. In the oft-predictable world of international diplomacy, a wide open, unpredictable vote would indeed be something to watch.

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Dil ke arman nahi nikle as USA back off from Syrian conflict and also start dating with old enemy!!
Silent protest

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even more shocking than the rejection is knowing there is not just one, but many many idiot nations willing to elect a cruel backwardly monarchy to the security council.

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^ they got elected unopposed.

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^^^ They lobbied for it first & thought they could use UNSC seats to go after Assad...except thats not how things ended up. Obama has backed away from attacking Syria & Saudis see little value in being on the security counsel.

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Spy Chief Distances Saudis From U.S. - WSJ.com

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia—Saudi Arabia’s intelligence chief told European diplomats this weekend that he plans to scale back cooperating with the U.S. to arm and train Syrian rebels in protest of Washington’s policy in the region, participants in the meeting said.

Prince Bandar Bin Sultan al-Saud’s move increases tensions in a growing dispute between the U.S. and one of its closest Arab allies over Syria, Iran and Egypt policies. It follows Saudi Arabia’s surprise decision on Friday to renounce a seat on the United Nations Security Council.

The Saudi government, after preparing and campaigning for the seat for a year, cited what it said was the council’s ineffectiveness in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian and Syrian conflicts.

Diplomats here said Prince Bandar, who is leading the kingdom’s efforts to fund, train and arm rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, invited a Western diplomat to the Saudi Red Sea city of Jeddah over the weekend to voice Riyadh’s frustration with the Obama administration and its regional policies, including the decision not to bomb Syria in response to its alleged use of chemical weapons in August.

“This was a message for the U.S., not the U.N.,” Prince Bandar was quoted by diplomats as specifying of Saudi Arabia’s decision to walk away from the Security Council membership.

Top decisions in Saudi Arabia come from the king, Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud, and it isn’t known if Prince Bandar’s reported remarks reflected a decision by the monarch, or an effort by Prince Bandar to influence the king. However, the diplomats said, Prince Bandar told them he intends to roll back a partnership with the U.S. in which the Central Intelligence Agency and other nations’ security bodies have covertly helped train Syrian rebels to fight Mr. Assad, Prince Bandar said, according to the diplomats. Saudi Arabia would work with other allies instead in that effort, including Jordan and France, the prince was quoted as saying.

U.S. officials said they interpreted Prince Bandar’s message to the Western diplomat as an expression of discontent designed to push the U.S. in a different direction. “Obviously he wants us to do more,” said a senior U.S. official.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry met in Paris on Monday with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al Faisal. Officials familiar with the meeting said Mr. Kerry urged the Saudis to reconsider their U.N. decision but said Prince Saud didn’t raise Prince Bandar’s concerns. Officials said this may suggest that there are divisions within the monarchy about how to pressure the U.S. to play a more hands-on role.

The U.S., fearing arms will wind up in the hands of al Qaeda and other extremist factions in Syria, has advocated a cautious approach in strengthening the moderate opposition in Syria, frustrating key allies, including Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Saudi officials say they, too, are concerned about arming extremists in Syria and are working only with moderate rebel factions.

Tensions between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia have grown sharply in recent months. President Barack Obama authorized the CIA to provide limited quantities of arms to carefully vetted Syrian rebels, but it took months for the program to commence. In July, the Saudis undercut the U.S. by backing the Egyptian military’s overthrow of that country’s democratically elected president.

The monarchy was particularly angered by Mr. Obama’s decision to scrap plans to bomb Syria in response to the alleged chemical-weapons attack in August and, more recently, tentative overtures between Mr. Obama and Iran’s new president.

Diplomats and officials familiar with events recounted two previously undisclosed episodes during the buildup to the aborted Western strike on Syria that allegedly further unsettled the Saudi-U.S. relationship.

In the run-up to the expected U.S. strikes, Saudi leaders asked for detailed U.S. plans for posting Navy ships to guard the Saudi oil center, the Eastern Province, during any strike on Syria, an official familiar with that discussion said. The Saudis were surprised when the Americans told them U.S. ships wouldn’t be able to fully protect the oil region, the official said.

Disappointed, the Saudis told the U.S. that they were open to alternatives to their long-standing defense partnership, emphasizing that they would look for good weapons at good prices, whatever the source, the official said.

In the second episode, one Western diplomat described Saudi Arabia as eager to be a military partner in what was to have been the U.S.-led military strikes on Syria. As part of that, the Saudis asked to be given the list of military targets for the proposed strikes. The Saudis indicated they never got the information, the diplomat said.

A senior American defense official said the U.S. remains “fully committed to security cooperation” with Saudi Arabia and continues to work with the Kingdom to plan for various security contingencies.

“Suggestions that we would not fully support the Kingdom in a time of crisis are entirely inaccurate,” the official said.

“The Saudis are very upset. They don’t know where the Americans want to go,” said a senior European diplomat not in Riyadh.

“The United States and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have a long-standing partnership and consult closely on issues of mutual interest, including preventing the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, countering terrorism, ensuring stable and reliable energy supplies, and promoting regional security,” said White House National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan.

A senior administration official said the U.S. and Saudi Arabia have a “strong and stable relationship” on core national-security issues.

“While we do not agree on every issue, when we have different perspectives we have honest and open discussions,” the senior administration official said.

In Washington in recent days, Saudi officials have privately complained to U.S. lawmakers that they increasingly feel cut out of U.S. decision-making on Syria and Iran. A senior American official described the king as “angry.”

Another senior U.S. official added: “Our interests increasingly don’t align.”

As of Monday in New York, however, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon hadn’t yet received the formal notice from Saudi Arabia that would make official its renunciation of the Security Council seat. Some analysts and diplomats saw that as an opening for Saudi Arabia to be persuaded to take the seat, and to mend the split with the U.S. and the U.N. that the renunciation implied.

Diplomats said Prince Bandar conveyed in the weekend session that scheduled meetings in Paris on Monday and Tuesday involving Mr. Kerry, Prince Saud and ministers of other nations backing Syria’s armed opposition would be a crucial opportunity for the U.S. to mend relations with Saudi Arabia, the world’s oil power and Washington’s main Arab ally in the Middle East.

In particular, Saudi Arabia wants to see the U.S. or U.N. come up with a more-effective plan of action for helping rebels overthrow Mr. Assad, and end the Syrian war, one Western diplomat said.

China and Russia, Security Council members and allies of Syria, have helped block any U.N. action that could support military action against the president.

In the Syria conflict, Iran and Tehran-backed Hezbollah militias are supporting Mr. Assad’s regime against rebels backed by Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations and private donors, and less actively by some Western nations.

Saudi Arabia regards defeating Mr. Assad’s regime as essential to its interests because of the involvement of Shiite Muslim Iran in the Syrian conflict. Saudi officials long have accused Iran of trying to exploit Shiite populations in Arab countries across the region to try to undermine Sunni Muslim governments and their interests. Saudi Arabia has its own Shiite minority.

Saudi officials are suspicious of recent overtures toward the U.S. by Iranian President Hasan Rouhani, fearing that Iran aims only to have international sanctions against it lifted while secretly continuing a nuclear program that earned the sanctions, diplomats said.

–Adam Entous, Julian E. Barnes and Jay Solomon in Washington
and Joe Lauria at the United Nations contributed to this article.
**Write to **Ellen Knickmeyer at [email protected]

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The Saudis are clearly annoyed that America didn't jump to the chance of attacking another of Saudis regional neighbouring enemy countries. They are also upset that Obama is trying to deal with Iran in a diplomatic manner rather than going to war with Saudis sectarian rivals.

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UN is for the interest of P5...PEROID. The rest is all noise. Saudi or no Saudi does not make any difference to UN.

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It's the insecurity council now ... Saudis are the first to realise that at the diplomatic level.

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Amreekan Tattu on security council.......not first time its happening...

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The major matter is that two of the 5 permanent members are strongly against a military resolve for Syria ... In a strange sort of a way all 5 countries need to be in the decision game or else the next global war will result ... I am going to make a daring prediction ... I think in a few years time or sooner something will happen that will put a lot of tension between the permanent members ... Unfortunately so I think this will be the case.

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I really don't think the major powers would go to war over Syria, but who knows in this crazy world of ours

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Ah, the concept of Muslim ''Ummah'' being displayed by the Saudis us Pakistanis love so much

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mahboob ki attention kay liye kuch tau kerna parta hay na

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Muslim ummah! khusiani billi kambha noochay!

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Saudi to reassess relations with US: report - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Saudi Arabia’s intelligence chief has said the kingdom will make a “major shift” in relations with the United States in protest at its perceived inaction over the Syrian war and its overtures to Iran, a source close to Saudi policy said.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan told European diplomats that Washington had failed to act effectively on the Syrian crisis and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, was growing closer to Tehran, and had failed to back Saudi support for Bahrain when it crushed an anti-government revolt in 2011, the source said on Tuesday.

It was not immediately clear if Prince Bandar’s reported statements had the full backing of King Abdullah.

“The shift away from the US is a major one,” the source close to Saudi policy said. “Saudi doesn’t want to find itself any longer in a situation where it is dependent.”

"This happens after the US failed to take any effective action on Syria and Palestine.

“Relations with the US have been deteriorating for a while, as Saudi feels that the US is growing closer with Iran and the US also failed to support Saudi during the Bahrain uprising.”

UN seat rejection

The prince’s initiative follows a surprise Saudi decision on Friday to reject a coveted two-year term on the UN Security Council in protest at “double standards” at the United Nations.

John Kerry, the US secretary of state, said he had discussed Riyadh’s concerns when he met his Saudi counterpart, Saud al-Faisal, in Paris on Monday.

Kerry said he had told the Saudi minister that no deal with Iran was better than a bad deal.

“I have great confidence that the United States and Saudi Arabia will continue to be the close and important friends and allies that we have been,” he told reporters in London.

“I reaffirmed President Obama’s commitment that he will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon,” said Kerry.

Policy hawk

Prince Bandar, who was Saudi ambassador to Washington for 22 years, is seen as a foreign policy hawk, especially on Iran.

The kingdom has informed the US of its actions in Syria, and diplomats say it has respected US requests not to supply the groups with advanced weaponry that the West fears could fall into the hands of al Qaeda-aligned groups.

Saudi anger boiled over after Washington refrained from military strikes in response to a poison gas attack in Damascus in August when the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, agreed to give up his chemical arsenal.

Saudi Arabia is also concerned about signs of a tentative reconciliation between Washington and Tehran, something Riyadh fears may lead to a “grand bargain” on the Iranian nuclear programme that would leave it at a disadvantage.

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Some people keep criticizing the UN on the issue of Syria but do you guys really want more western troops killing Muslims in the middle east?
Either the US are the worlds policeman or they aren't, you can't have it both ways.

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Saudis want to use America to do their dirty work. They are unhappy because US refused to engage militarily in Syria.
**If Saudis really want to remove Assad then they can do it on their **own. Their military is many times powerful than Syria's. Combine that with military support from other Gulf emirates, like Qatar and UAE which have been actively working to foam unrest in Syria alongside Saudi.

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Really? barri jaldi khaya aa gaya Saudiyon ko.
So what was the impetus for this "realization" at this moment?

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What did the "mehboob" do to warrant this concern about lack of attention?