or watta satta or whatever the hell its called. I know its common in villages in pakistan but according this hadith its prohibited.
Book 8, Number 3299:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
Allah’s Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) prohibited Shighar. Ibn Numayr added: Shighar means that a person should say to the other person: Give me the hand of your daughter in marriage and I will (in return) marry my daughter to you; or marry me your sister, and I will marry my sister to you.
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its such a stupid myth of our society...
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its watta satta.
hand of daughter in marriage** to me or my son?**
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^ huh?
my question is, when its wrong why is it so common?
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A lot of things are common but prohibited by religion. Much of it comes from ignorance, lack of education, and cultural norms adopted from other religions / cultures.
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man a wants to marry daughter of man b n vice versa or for their sons.
bro n sis marrying other bro n sis is watta satta.
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its wrong when the condition of second marriage is put as compulsory....
but i dont think there is anything wrong in such marriages if no such strings r attached to it....
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You are mixing the two entirely different situations together.
**Situation 1 **
Two families get together and decide to upgrade their friendship into relationship by marriage.
The young man from family A marries the young lady from the family B. And in return young man from B marries the young lady from family A.
There is nothing wrong with this as long as both marriages are **‘independent’ **from each other.
Situation 2
What the hadith quoted above is purporting to prohibit is the marriage of Shighar.
Here that man ‘A’ approaches man ‘B’ saying;
“You take my daughter/sister in marriage and in exchange for that give me your daughter/sister in marriage.”
The main motive of this ‘transaction’ is to exchange young ladies to satisfy their lusts.
The following can explain it much better.
In the first place, we would like to stress that marriage is a social institution as old as the human race itself. Islam recognizes this institution and accepts it as the basis of human society.
Islam does not regard marriage as a union only for the gratification of sexual desire, but a social contract with wide and varied responsibilities and duties. In an Islamic marriage, the woman is not a plaything in the hand of the man, but she is a spiritual and a moral being who is entrusted to him on the sacred pledge to which Allah is made a witness. The wife is, therefore, not meant only to provide sensuous pleasure to the male, but to fully cooperate with him in making the life of the family and ultimately of the whole humanity significantly meaningful.
Responding to your question, Dr. Rifat Fawzi, former head of the Department of Shariah at Cairo University, issues the following fatwa:
Let me first clarify what is meant by ash-shighar marriage and Islam’s stance on it. Ash-shighar marriage means that two men (for example, two brothers) marry two women (for example, two sisters) from the other family under the condition that there is no mahr (dower paid to the woman). Such ash-shighar marriage will only go through if the “exchange deal” goes through, and this is reason enough to invalidate the two marriages altogether.
Abu Hurairah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) “has forbidden ash-shighar, which means that one man says to another: Marry me your daughter and I will marry you my daughter; or marry me your sister and I will marry you my sister." (Reported by Muslim).
In another authentic Hadith, Abdullah Ibn Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) stated that “Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade ash-shighar, which means that one marries his daughter to another on condition that the other man gives him his daughter in marriage, without mentioning any dower." (Related by Al-Bukhari).
These two Hadiths are perfectly clear in forbidding exchange marriages altogether. It is not surprising that this is forbidden in Islam, because it is an “exchange deal” that looks at women as though they were commodities that can be bought and sold.
Having stated the above, I would like to stress that if the marriage you referred to in your question contains an offer and acceptance from both parties (man and woman), and each woman is entitled to receive her mahr without the “exchange deal” referred to above, and no condition was attached to the first marriage that the second one will follow, then such marriage is permissible and valid according to Shari`ah.
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^ jazak Allah khayr for the explanation, sometimes ppl just get mislead without trying to know the full thing....
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Ibn Siddique, thank you for sharing. I had no idea how it actually works. From what I can understand, it was merely a barter and not the type of marriage permissible in Islam where mahr is to be given to the bride.
Also, I'm assuming even when watta satta marriages take place and there is mahr, consent, and agreement involved, it is likely that avenging the mistreatment of one's sibling on his spouse would be impermissible?
The reason why many do watta satta is because if person A is to do something to his wife, Person B would treat person A's sister the same way. Therefore, the two are literally forced to be nice to each other or stay married, otherwise the sibling married to the other individual would receive similar treatment.
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Sister** Sadiyah** You have stated the true reason why people do 'watta satta'. This keeps the two couples in sort of check. It is a tradegy when a 'getting on well' couple are caught up the whirlwind of the other.