May be some people put a **Fatwa of Kufr **on it !
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The link is not working for me.
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May be some people put a **Fatwa of Kufr **on it !
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Muslims don’t…Christians maybe?
Islam teaches that Allah Subhanahu wa Taala is the sole creator of Good and Evil!](“http://ravi.lums.edu.pk/sabieh/satan_longing.pdf”)
more suited for philosophy....
I already fearing from salafi muslims. I know that according to Ibne Tammiyyah , Masur and Ibne Arabi are kafirs and Abdul Qadir Jilani,Junaid Baghdadi,Rabia Basri ,Sirki Siqti,Shibli,Bayazeed Bastami are daviant and Biddati...:)
I already fearing from salafi muslims. I know that according to Ibne Tammiyyah , Masur and Ibne Arabi are kafirs and Abdul Qadir Jilani,Junaid Baghdadi,Rabia Basri ,Sirki Siqti,Shibli,Bayazeed Bastami are daviant and Biddati...:)
aap nay tu kamal ker diya put so many names of these arabs and last one sounds to me like BASMATI rice jis ka koi jawab nahin
by the way which desert?
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i wouldnt touch that link because to be honest iam not intersted
I already fearing from salafi muslims. I know that according to Ibne Tammiyyah , Masur and Ibne Arabi are kafirs and Abdul Qadir Jilani,Junaid Baghdadi,Rabia Basri ,Sirki Siqti,Shibli,Bayazeed Bastami are daviant and Biddati...:)
where did ibn-e-taimiyah say those things about the latter group....
mansur hallaj and ibn-e-arabi were hardcore sufis and many orthodox scholars have labelled them kafirs....
but where did u bring the rest of it from????
ibn taimiyyah and abdul qadir jilani were both strict hanbalis (hanbalis r now more commonly called wahabis)
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The fact is that Ibne Arabi Master pieces Fatoohataa-i-Makkia and Fasoosa-ul-Hikm are so difficult and hi fi books that hardly few have understood it in whole islamic history. When it was asked from Allama Zahabi(Dhabi) about the claim of Ibne Arabi that Ibne Arabi says he has wriiten Fasoos by the command of Prophet(pbuh), Allama Zahabi replied , i cannot expect the person like Ibne Arabi that he will tell a lie. Allama Zahabi and Ibne Tammiyyah are the hard opposers of Ibne Arabi.
Al-Yawaqeet-ul-Jawahir
9:1
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If they strictly follow Imam Hanbal, why Ibne Tamiyyah is strictly against mysticism and sufis and Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani is unanimosuly the imam of all sufis of the world till qiyyammah, wahabis are those who follow Imam Hanbal in fiqah but takes rulings from Muhammad Abdul Wahab, and todays 99% salafi/wahabi scholars takes rulings of Ibne Tamiyyah,Munajjid , Ibne Baaz and Ibne Uthemeen, not of the great Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal 
I have read the summary of Kitab-e-Tawasin here
http://ravi.lums.edu.pk/sabieh/tawasin-summary.pdf
not found anything kufr or shirk, its the peak of love , emotions, and self awareness and courage to speak about it. Whats wrong if Allah pours his spirit into Adam , and in all men, so part of this spirit was also in Mansur, so when he says , I am not ‘He’ but ‘His’ , is there anything wrong ? as we all know Rooh will eventaully go to sky , its original place where it comes from, its the Noor of Allah, and when Mansur dared to speak about it,he was persecuted for speaking truth !
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^ do u really think that if shaikh abdul qadir jilani was alive today he'd be happy with all the shirk done under his name????
or do u think Isa (as) has any involvement with what the christians have turned him into now????
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exactly, you r right.what people do shirk in name of Abdul Qadir Jilani, Data Ganj Bukhs etc , considering them mushkil kusha, asking help from theo graves etc all r clearly shirks, , doing sajda on graves, women going to graves etc etc as clearly prohibited by Prophet(pbuh) , all are wrong, but those great souls have not ordered all that, may be if they will alive, they will have a 'Chitrol' of all these people who ask help from them.
Same is the case with Issa(as) and same with Uzair(as) and same with Hazrat Ali(ra), all those who ask those people for help, consider them Muskil Kusha, consider that they can do anything,can give health, child, success and not ask it from Allah, its shirk, but if someone asks like that o allah , as u have bestowed upon ur beloved with such prizes , also look upon him, this is permitted by many scholars which usually known the concept of Waseela, although some scholars have also objections upon that , but thats the different case.
Regards