There are two issues here:
Gay couples adopting
Adoption of children of different ethnic backgrounds
What say you?
There are two issues here:
Gay couples adopting
Adoption of children of different ethnic backgrounds
What say you?
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I don't have a lot to say. I'm indifferent. However, I would be worried Muslim kids being adopted by non-Muslims.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I am fine with both of them. No matter how much against I am of gay marriages, kids are better off living with two adults of same sex as their guardian/parents than to live in an orphanage or any other under-privileged environment.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
1) I have no issues with gay couples adopting. SO and I both see HORRIBLE parenting from straight couples in our line of work. So being straight doesn't mean sh*t when it comes to raising a child. Gay couples can be just as capable of being wonderful loving parents as straight couples.
2) I agree with TLK. Regardless of religious or racial differences....I will always support the idea of a child living with two adults of the same sex as their "parents" than for them to live in an orphanage or being shuffled from 1 foster home to another.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
Gay couples adopting - My gut reaction is to say hell-no! I don't think it is right, but if I imagine a situation where my children are ophaned and there is no-one else on the planet that can look after them and it's a choice of them going in a childrens home or be taken in loved and cherished by a gay couple a part of me wants to say give them to the gays, but I don't think I will ever be in that situation.
Even if gays were not able to adopt they can still go for sperm donation or surrogates so we can't really stop them from having children.
Adoption of children of different ethnic backgrounds - With regards to gay couples I think my view above explains how I feel. If we are talking about straight couples I really do not have a problem with this, I think having the same religion is more important than having the same race. Infact I think it's a great idea because there is no such thing as 'adoption' in Islam, so you should not be trying to 'pass off' your adoptive child as your own anyway, I have always said if I was to adopt a child it would be chinese or white then there would be no chance of people thinking I was the childs birth mother. But I would never adopt anyway, i would only do long term fostering.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
In order of priority, straight couple > single dad/mum > gay couple. In religious terms, I'd rather a Muslim child grew up in a Muslim orphanage than a non-Muslim family with non-Muslim values. Different ethnic backgrounds are not a problem.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I really wonder what goes on in those ppls heads who think kids shouldn't be adopted by non Muslims or gays...when the only other alternative is being in an orphanage. That's whats called having no compassion and a disregard for others.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
What goes on in my head is a child born to Muslim parents does not deserve a non-Muslim upbringing. Difficult childhood in this life, sure, but a much better hereafter. In fact if I saw a Muslim child being adopted by a non-Muslim I would adopt them myself (if I have the means to).
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
What goes on in my head is a child born to Muslim parents does not deserve a non-Muslim upbringing. Difficult childhood in this life, sure, but a much better hereafter. In fact if I saw a Muslim child being adopted by a non-Muslim I would adopt them myself (if I have the means to).
I know what you are saying, but everybody is born muslim, it's their upbringing that dictates whether they stay muslim, muslims should be willing to adopt/foster any child.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
^You're absolutely right, I would have no qualms about adopting a non-Muslim child, it's the Muslim kid being adopted by a non-Muslim I have issues with. Hypocritical yes but is that not what being a Muslim is about, i.e we are right and everyone else is wrong.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I think my point is every child is a muslim untill they hit the age of 'responsibilty'. I know I did not make that point clear.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
Very sad
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I think my point is every child is a muslim untill they hit the age of 'responsibilty'. I know I did not make that point clear.
I get the point, every child is born a muslim. If my hypothetical children were orphaned, I'd rather they grew up as orphaned muslims than adopted non-muslims.
I don't see what's sad with that. I think Angeline Jolie adopted a muslim kid from Africa, it's sad that the kid having lost his parents will now be a non-muslim.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I'm afraid i'm not understanding the "issue", especially in the case of gays adopting children of different ethnicities. What may it be exactly? (Damn my liberalism).
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
How do you NOT see that it's sad?
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
Since it is against my religion, I don't support it.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I get the point, every child is born a muslim. If my hypothetical children were orphaned, I'd rather they grew up as orphaned muslims than adopted non-muslims.
I don't see what's sad with that. I think Angeline Jolie adopted a muslim kid from Africa, it's sad that the kid having lost his parents will now be a non-muslim.
You assume the unadopted muslim kid would practice Islam if left unadopted (on what pretext do you assume this?) You also assume the adopted muslim will become nonpracticing if adopted by non-muslims.
To want to leave your child unadopted for fear of the child losing his/her religion is convoluted. If you, as a parent have "taught your kid well enough", then the child practicing Islam shouldn't be a matter of concern. If it is, you've obviously not done your job pal.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
I really wonder what goes on in those ppls heads who think kids shouldn't be adopted by non Muslims or gays...when the only other alternative is being in an orphanage. That's whats called having no compassion and a disregard for others.
I agree with you that its sad. I know quite a few people (even non-Muslims) who are against gays adopting. And I know quite a few Muslims who would agree with the idea of non-Muslims NOT adopting Muslim kids. What I find interesting is that all these people that have "reasons" as to why a child should NOT be adopted....they themselves have chosen not to adopt any children (for the record, with the people I know, $$ is not an issue). Instead of adopting a child, they'd rather have their own 3rd, 4th, or 5th biological child...and then state how other families that DO want to adopt children should not do it.
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
What's up with all these gay threads on GS?
Re: Same sex couples adopting children of other ethnic backgrounds
Gay couples need psychological counselling, not children.