Salman Taseer call him what he is: Shaheed!

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Re: Salman Taseer call him what he is: Shaheed!

@Archangel

Lets try another tact. It will make my life easier due to a lack of time.

Every view point is subjective, thus an interpretation of what we believe and accept.

Great, we agree on that.

I base my definition of Shaheed on the Quran and various hadis.

As yet, unspecified Quran and unspecified various hadis.

edit: Ah. Hizb-ut-Tahrir links. Well so be it, what we have is different sources for evidence then. You are citing what I regard as whackjobs as evidence. I am rejecting them offhand.

You base yours only on one, which promotes your agenda.

Heh. So now my interpretation is tainted by definition. What is the point of you asking me to give logical argument if you will ignore it and say you have an agenda.

You have already ignored other hadis that say otherwise because you did not agree with their source.

What hadis did I ignore? And assuming I were to reject a hadis because of source, what is the basis for implying that I really reject it because of an agenda? And what is your rationale for ignoring the evidence presented to you?

edit: Ah. Now I remember… you posted links from Hizb-ut-Tahrir. Well yes then, I consider them a fraudulent cult completely out of the mainstream Muslim society, and my rejection of them has absolutely nothing to do with Salman Taseer and this specific agenda. I have posted from much more mainstream sources, even though I am not of Usmani’s sect I happen to agree with his description of shaheed. My own sect (shia) has similar opinion on what shaheed is defined as.

Thus going back to my point that you are using religion as a tool to further a political agenda.

There is no thus about it. You have made a claim and repeated it twice, once with a Thus prefacing it. Your argument reads as follows:

You have an agenda in your interpretation.

Thus you are using religion for your agenda.

Brilliant.