Salman Ahmed talking about the belief on Music in Islam

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This topic has been discussed in Shor Sharaba and is a bit contreversial topic. I had to ask Salman about his belief on music. And I loved his reply.

Salman bhayee!
Salaam. This is something that has been on my mind for quite a while now. I have always been music fanatic. Music is in my vains. In Pakistan it wasnt a problem, but when I moved to the US, I have been attanding alot of Halaqas where we bring certain issues and then analyze and discuss such issues.

A few days back, the issue of Music was brought up. And According to the Sheikh music in every form is Haraam. He quoted even Ahadees. I dont know the Authenticity of the Ahadees, but I say what if they are true. I mean Islam is a religeon of peace and harmony. How could be such an innocent thing like music be not liked in Islam? You being an idol I would like your advice on this topic.

I have always looked up to you and Junaid Jamshed bhayee as idols while growing up! You have been like as we say in Urdu " Pardes main tanhaa raaton kay saathi" listening to your music. I know Junaid bhayee also went through this stage where he started going with Jamaat people for Dawah’ and he was ashamed to tell people in Raiwind of what of his Music. While a man told him that Muslim is a person who is the best in what he does…

I mean my Islam is so different from other people. People say namaaz comes first. I say not hurting people and “live and let live” thinking comes first. I dont need to spend all my time in mosque to my Allah happy. Simple things like a song of yours " Wahdahoo la shareeqa lahoo" refreshes my eemaan. I have love of Allah but then I love music till the “hadd” of Junoon too! Please help me. I know this isn’t an advice forum. But you being my idol I have to ask this from you.

Salman Ahmed Responds:

Alibeta: I agree with you man! For me too, music has far more relevance than a prayer in a mosque. I recently saw Ustad Akbar Khan playing the sitar and it brought tears to my eyes. Music (especially qawwalis) provide the best avenue for meditation for me. It was through music that the african-americans when they were treated like slaves, would voice their pain to God which gave them strenght to live on. Here’s one far-fetched statement that i believe: the Black person gave the idea of America a soul through music.
hAVING READ THE QURAN IN CONSIDERABLE DEPTH i HAVEN’T FOUND A SINGLE VERSE OF THE QURAN AGAINST THE USE OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS,MUSIC OR RYTHM.Having spoken to many Islamic scholars I’ve found that this is an issue which has divided the ulema.Some scholars(including Imam Ghazzali) have shown evidence in which music has been part of Muslim celebrations(eid).Eid is a metaphor for a day of celebration,just like prayer in the Quran means God’s remembrance at any time of day not necessarily the 5 obligatory prayers.Eid too signifies a day of happiness and celebration not necessarily Eid-ul-fitr or eid-ul-azha.On the other side of the spectrum There are ulema who have used certain ahadith to ban music,
but what is interesting is that there is no unanimous condemnation of Music in the world of Islam.Thus we are left to use your own heart,mind and brain to decide what is right and what is wrong, don’t be a parrot, SEEK OUT TRUTH FOR YOURSELF.

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very hi nice-te-interesting…
thanx 4 sharing biba…
God bless u all…

maskeen-te-ghumgeen…
DerVaisH

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bicha gaye hai anna hum mein doorian kitni…
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Go to religion!! you will have a nice debate there.

but i say
"If music leads to haram than its wrong."

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Sorry Shah Jahan!
There is too "fitnaa" in Religwon, I feel sad to visit a forum where a shia calls a Sunni Kafir and vice versa. I'd rather stick to much simpler things in life. Like the ones dicussed in Shor Sharaba!

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Originally posted by AliBeta:
Sorry Shah Jahan!
There is too "fitnaa" in Religwon, I feel sad to visit a forum where a shia calls a Sunni Kafir and vice versa. I'd rather stick to much simpler things in life. Like the ones dicussed in Shor Sharaba!
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thats the problem. but you should not run from a problem you should solve it!!

Yes there are some losers over there but this question wont get any strong remarks(you'll be glad if you get 5 replies)!!

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This is an example of justifying something to make it sound right

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Im not an alim…and im not religious to the extent where I can start making ijtehaad on my own. Im just going to mention the basics.

You may not be a civil engineer, but you know that a building cant stand without installing pillars for support. You may not be a mechanical engineer, but you know that without an engine, a car wont run…and without wheels, it wont roll. That is the deal with namaz. It is a basic requirement…and no matter how philosophical one may choose to make it, there is no equating its importance to that of anything else.

People say namaaz comes first. I say not hurting people and “live and let live” thinking comes first.

Engineers say pillars come first. I say my bedroom comes first. Get the point?

I dont need to spend all my time in mosque to my Allah happy

no you dont. But there is a certain minimum that you have to do. When going to a university, you dont have to attend all the classes in order to graduate. But you have to attend a certain minimum, without which not only will you not learn, but you will also not graduate.

Eid is a metaphor for a day of celebration,just like prayer in the Quran means God’s remembrance at any time of day not necessarily the 5 obligatory prayers

Surprising that after having read the Quran in ‘considerable depth’, as he put it, Salman would say that. Plus, hes contradicting himself here. He talks of the ‘mention of prayer in the Quran’ as one of God’s remembrance at any time of the day, and not necessarily the 5 obligatory prayers! He acknowledges the fact that they are obligatory, yet at the same time he says that remembering God at any time of the day is equal to those 5 obligatory prayers.

Im not against musicians. I love music. But dont justify it at the expense of some of the most basic and obligatory components of Islam.

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wese jahan gaana bajana hota he wahan allah ki rahmat naazil nahi hoti!

~~Hum aah bhi karte hein to ho jaate hein badnaam~~
~~Woh qatal bhi karte hein to charchaa nahi hotaa~~

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excellent!!

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There are two types of deeds:
haqooqul-Allah
haqooqul-Ibaad

Both are VERY IMPORTANT.
‘To live and let live’ is in ‘haqooqul Ibaad’
‘Praying 5 times a day’ is in ‘haqooqul Allah’.

To be a “good” Muslim, we HAVE to take care of both types of haqooq, we cannot ignore one or the other and still be good Muslim… NO WAY.

Music… some scholars have allowed / permitted songs which can be used to raise people’s emotion for nation / religion. These scholars allowed certain instruments to be played with these songs. I personally don’t agree with such opinion. If Music is HARAM then IT IS HARAM. Poetry is allowed and that can be the tool as Allama Iqbal did to wake up Ummah.

We oughta be Changez like, don’t we?