Salaat-Ul-Wusta / Middle Prayers

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Also known as “the best or the most excellent prayer”.

My questions:

1- Which Salaat / Prayer is it?
2- Is it for males only, or females only, or for both?
3- Why it is said that “stand before Almighty Allah in a devout” while offering this Salaat/Prayer?

Share your views, with references if possible. :slight_smile:

:jazak:

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Walaikumussalam Warahamtullah,

1-salat al asar is considered as salat ul wusta or middle prayer. And it could fajar i also heard like if we consider the fajar first prayer of the day asar will be the middle, and if we consider maghrib first prayer of the day then fajar will be the middle prayer.
2-for both offcourse
3-no idea mGar shayad darmyana wAkt khasa busy hota hay tu app apny saray kam chor kay Allah kay agay kharay hojain. You tell why it is said?

this is surah baqarah verse no 238 and it seems you are reading surah al baqarah, as you are at this verse, have you noticed after the matter of divorce in long details. Allah subhan wa talla is speaking about Salat, why ?

jazakAllah khair for reminder

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Peace Tahurra,

No I haven’t noticed. As I am a very slow reader. I just reached now at verse 243.

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alhamdulilah you are Reading it doesnt matter you are slow and its good to read slowly you can understand well. Actually that kind of matters and things like divorce, can make you depressed etc, so Allah ta’alla telling you about salat becuase you know people when sometimes get depressed maaz Allah, stop praying and all, so Allah is saying hafizu salawat, maintain prayers.

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^ or yeh bhi nukta hay k jab tum in sub muaamlaat main uljhay hoyee ho to kaheen NAMAZ na bhool jaana ,

mera zaati experience hay kk app kay husband app ko divorce day rahay hoon verbal or namaz ka akhree waqt ho …

app ko us waqt namaz kitna yaad rahay gee (Allhumma ansura bi nusratika ..innaka khair un Naasireen )

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ji bilkul drust farmaya app ney, Allah apni panah mein rakhy namazon ki ghaflat se, dunya kay mamlat tu na khatam honey walay hain magar namaz ka wakt ek bar chala jaye tu dobara nahi ata, isliye fikr namaz ki honi chhaye mamla Allah kay hawalay.

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musalmaan kehlwaane waalun ke liye zaroori hai woh deene islam ko saheeh tarah se samajhne ki poori poori koshish karen aur deene islam ko khud samajh kar doosrun ko samjhaane main lag jaayen. is ke siwaa deene islam ka saheeh paighaam aage pohnchaane ka koi aur pur aman tareeqa nahin hai. isi main musalamaanu ki apni bhalayee bhi hai aur deegar insaaniyat ki bhi. is ke siwaa har raasta khoon kharaabe ka raasta hai aur insaaniyat ki tareekh par agar ghor kiya jaaye to yahee baat saamne aati hai. yeh baat atal hai keh deene islam ko duniya se koi taaqat bhi mitaa nahin sakti. albata agar log is ko saheeh tarah se apnaa len to insaaniyat apni intahayee oonchaayee tak pohnch sakti hai.

deene islam ko samajhna aur samjhaana bahot hi mehnat aur mushaqqat talab kaam hai jo log karna nahin chahte aur is ke baghair khushgawaar, baa izzat aur pur aman zindagi ki tamana rakhte hen jo kabhi bhi is tarah poori hone waali nahin hai. har khawaaish amal ki motaaj hai khud bakhud poori nahin hoti, albatta itni baat zaroor hai keh jitne ziyaada log deen ko khud samajh kar doosrun ko samjhaayen ge deene islam utna hi jaldi haqeeqat ban kar hamaare saamne aaye ga. asal masla behrhaal yahee hai keh asal deene islam hai kia, woh jo ham ko mullah bataa rahe hen yaa us ka ilm ham ne kho diya hai aur ab us ko nay sire se talaash karne ki zaroorat hai. is maamle main is dor ke kuchh naamwar logoon ne badaa kaam kiya hai jis ke nateeje main un logoon ne ham ko kuchh baaten batayee hen jin par mazeed kaam kar ke ham asal haqeeqat se phir se aashnaa ho sakte hen.

1)sir syed ne ham ko quran ko haqaaiq ki bunyaad par samajhne ki dawat di. yeh baat ham ko pakki bunyaad fraham karti hai deene islam ko quran se samajhne ke liye.

2)farahi ne ham ko quran ko is ke apne sayaaqo sabaaq main samajhne ki dawat di. yeh baat bhi ham ko pakki bunyaad farahm karti hai deene islam ko quran se samajhne ke liye.

3)iqbal ne ham ko yeh dawat di keh islam deen hai mazhab nahin hai. is liye is ko is sayaaqo sabaaq main samjho, yeh baat bhi ham ko bunyaad fraham karti hai quran ki roshni main asal deene islam ko samajhne ki.

4)iqbal ne ham ko yeh dawat bhi di keh deene islam us dastooro aur un qawaneen ka naam hai jo quran ke diye ge usoolun ke mutaabiq haqaaiq ki roshni main ummat khud banaati hai har dor ki munaasbat se.

yeh sab baaten apni asal ke lihaaz se quran hi main mojood hen in hazraat ne sirf in ko hamaare saamne pesh kiya hai. jo shakhs in usoolun ko saamne rakhe ga asal deene islam us par khul jaaye ga.

ummat main ikhtilaaf mazhab ke thekedaarun ne daala hai jin ko deene islam naam ki cheez ka kuchh bhi ilm nahin hai. awaam ne khud unpadh aur laa ilm hone ki wajah se in logoon ke peechhe chal kar in logoon ke haath mazboot kiye hen jis ki in ko sazaa mil rahee hai aur milti rahe gi jab tak log is raaste ko chhoren ge nahin aur us raaste ko apnaayen ge nahin jo khushgawaar, baa izzat aur pur aman zindagi ki taraf le kar jaata hai insaaniyat ko.

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thanks LKK for this thread, Tahura and P_G for the great answers.

Mods: can someone plz remove the out of topic posts by Mughal1, its ruining this thread.

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[note] Everyone please stick to the topic & do not derail thread. Thanks. [/note]

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What humanity is crying for today is a way of life for itself that could lead it to a blissful, dignified and secure existence which is organised and regulated as explained in the quran. The quran uses words like SALAAH and QAAIM and WASTA etc in that context. Not in context of prayers as mullahs will have us believe. Islam is a deen not a system of dogmatic nonsense. What people call namaaz is covenant reaffirmation or MISAAQ. It is about people declaring that they will live by way of life as advised by Allah in the quran and in return set up systems and laws of Allah will deliver to people blissful, dignified and secure existence promised in the quran by Allah. So misaaq=namaaz not salaah and salaah is not misaaq. They are two different things.

Human are physical beings created in this physical universe with physical needs which cannot be fulfilled unless people produce and distribute things of need in an organised and regulated way the quran explains. Unless humanity organises and regulates itself as a proper human community so that it is a supportive network of people for each other it will have a terrible life experiences by hands of each other. For better understanding ponder over word ummah. What kind of human community is that which is based upon personal gains at the expense of each other hunting each other down? It is an animal population in a jungle tearing each other apart senselessly for survival at the expense of each other as predators hunting each other down.

A proper human community is that which is organised and regulated for accomplishing goals set for it by the quran according to its stated guidelines using the provided provisions of Allah properly. A way of life cannot be mere beliefs and rituals because neither is capable of fulfilling human needs for survival. In order to accomplish anything else survival comes fist. If you do not live then there is no you to do anything else. So any way of life that has nothing to do with things of need for human survival at its foundation is not worth adopting.

There arise many insurmountable problems if people take word SALAAH for prayers some of which I have already explained here and there on this forum in my various posts. For people who have problem understanding word SALAAH in the context of the quran please see HERE and HERE. It is a must read for all regardless muslims or nonmuslims.

Of course people have right to disagree with my point of view about deen of islam as par my understanding of the quranic text. However, it will be better if people then could come up with a point of view that is better due being more logical and more consistent. None can beat the point of view that is logical and consistent because only flawed points of views need changing. The reason logic and consistency are important things is because they provide humanity with solid foundation for thinking things through. The quran itself demands that people think logically and be consistent in their logical thinking about things. This is why Allah tells people to ponder over the quran and scrutinise its text to see if it is logical and consistent or not and that should prove that it is from none other than Allah due to being logical and consistent despite having information about vast number of things.

So in 2/238 Allah is telling people to safe guard your way of organising and regulating your community properly particularly such aspects of it that are pivotal for survival of humanity as a properly organised and regulated human community. Now if we look at our world we will see all problems in all human societies are due to not organising properly or not regulating properly therefore there occurs mismanagement of human populations and available resources and so production and distribution suffers resulting in people not getting what they need for survival so they end up in terrible state of existence instead of blissful, dignified and secure existence promised by the quran if people adopted its advised way of life.

One has to ask, why mullahs misinterpreted and misrepresented the quran? The answer is very simple ie because rulers and money lenders put them up to it. Imagine humanity establishing quranic way of life by adopting it, what will happen to those who have burning ambition to be shahenshahs, kings, rajas and chaudharies? Why each country is in competition with the rest and why each person in each country is in competition with all the rest in the country? It is because people are animals due to being ignorant and uneducated and they do not want to be helpful to each other unless they see their personal gain in it. As their learning experiences expand so people think better and better and one day humnaity will become grown up enough to realise benefits of adopting the way of life the quran advises and they will adopt it. When that is to happen is dependent upon how fast people learn to be better human beings through their interaction with each other and rest of things in this universe.

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